Thursday, May 29, 2014

Buildings marketed as "green" not really so

From the NY Times:

A dozen construction workers gathered around a flatbed truck in Long Island City, Queens, one recent Tuesday, marveling at the final piece of a new 15-story apartment building they had just finished assembling. As a mobile crane hoisted the 20-foot-long black contraption over Pearson Street, many of the workers used their phones to film its ascent.

What looked like a huge carbon-fiber strand of DNA strung around a 10-foot mast was the last of three wind turbines being installed atop the Pearson Court Square, a 197-unit luxury apartment building.

In an industry, a city and a society obsessed with being green, wind turbines remain scarce — only two apartment buildings in New York City harvest the skies for energy, with limited yields.

But in the past few weeks, two new installations have popped up, the one on Pearson Street and another atop what is now Brooklyn’s tallest building, 388 Bridge Street. At least half a dozen more are on the horizon.

As with most green innovations, L&M also had the government on its side. The New York State Energy Research and Development Authority helped pay about half the $100,000 installation cost, and will study the turbines’ efficacy.

For many sustainability advocates, that is precisely the issue. “A tiny windmill on a big building is just silly — it might as well be a pinwheel,” said Russell Unger, executive director of the Urban Green Council. “It’s a lovely idea, if people want to pay for it and test it out, but as far as return on investment goes, it’s a waste compared to more insulation and efficient building systems.”

L&M actually agrees. “We’re doing all we can to green the building, but it’s kind of hard to sell an apartment by showing people your high-tech boiler,” Mr. Dishy said. The three turbines should provide enough power, 12 kilowatts, to keep the lights on in all common areas, including the lobby, the hallways, the gym and a roof lounge from which the whirligigs can be seen.

What they do outside the building is even more important than what they do inside — the turbines are visible from the No. 7 train platform and the Long Island Expressway and surrounding streets. With dozens of towers on the rise in Long Island City, anything to help a project stand out is good.

So taxpayers are basically funding their marketing scheme. Great.


JQ said...

so turbines have become the equivalent and have the same usefulness has ornaments on a xmas tree.


Anonymous said...

The overdevelopment of NYC is out of hand. Please remind me why we need more people living in this city?

Anonymous said...

Green is Good... as in the general principal of construction that uses better materials, less waste producing, and less energy consuming.

What is a scam is the LEED rating system, which is basically just a tool devised by the Real Estate industry as a marketing tool. Often, points awarded to their LEED score have little to do with the ideas of Building Green.

Anonymous said...

Of course the taxpayers are funding this. There isn't a single so-called green energy source that actually produces energy at anything like a reasonable cost. None of them comes anywhere near the efficiency and value of petroleum-based fuels.

Oh, and by the way, manmade catastrophic global warming is a hoax.


poster 2: It's not that we need more people living here, it's that more people need somewhere to live. Did your family face such antipathy when they came here from somewhere else?

There's a lot of space upstate and poor communities that would welcome new residents if the city gets too crowded for you.