From NY Magazine:Local gay-club impresario Nestor Romero opened the Music Box in 1993, three years after he introduced his across-the-way favorite Friend’s Tavern. Because the layout is identical and the congenial bartenders are similarly inclined to greet you with a handshake and a smile, patrons freely amble between one bar and the other, interrupting their chatter only for the looming rumble of the elevated train overhead. Such is gay life in the well-traversed southwest pocket of Jackson Heights.
Wow, it sounds like gay Mayberry, doesn't it? They forgot to mention that on weekends, Spanish boys take their pants off at 12 midnight and 2am like clockwork.
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Crapper, how do you know they are deshabillee?
Vas you dere, Sharlie?
This is not from the times, it's from new york mag.
wow...this is a very offensive post
wow...this is a very offensive post
And you have the nicest mouth I ever came across!
I'm glad you're as offended by that postcard as I was, especially having found it outside a school.
Spanish guys taking their pants off? Sounds like the place to be. Thank you for the information Crapper. I will head on over to the Music Box to get my groove on.
Hey, these are the fellows that Honest Joe Crowley and the machine want under their tent.
Offensive to devout Jews and Muslims? That is their problem.
While we are at it, f*ck the Catholic Church and its values. A bunch of homos anyway, right?
Good work Honest Joe. Hope your pastor asks you about this.
Well, that's what gay is, right? No matter how they try to clean it up and make it look respectable, ultimately is comes down to sex and perversion in public.
As a gay Queens resident, I can tell you that The Music Box does not have strippers every weekend by any stretch of the imagination; often it's just a bunch of people grabbing beers at the local tavern. As for the commenter who claims "No matter how they try to clean it up and make it look respectable, ultimately is comes down to sex and perversion in public", the last time I checked, this was a privately-owned establishment that does not receive any public funding. Besides, why isn't there the same outcry about all of the many straight strip joints in the borough, the likes of which include places with names like Goldfingers in L.I.C., or Wiggles in Rego Park and let's not forget Larry Flynt's infamous Hustler Club with it's prominent billboard advertising on the L.I.E. -- no perversion there!
"Well, that's what gay is, right? No matter how they try to clean it up and make it look respectable ultimately is comes down to sex and perversion in public."
The same can be said of billboards and flyers that advertise titty bars, escort services, jiggle joints, clit clubs and "gentlemen" clubs that cater to straight men.
Which all have been targeted here on this blog (Trib whore ads, indecent billboards, whore party fliers given out at high schools). Your point is what exactly? That I should give the gay ones a pass?
And it says on the flier that the Music Box DOES have strippers every weekend. If it doesn't then why falsely advertise?
I personally don't see what's so offensive about that flyer.
Am I supposed to be worried that a PG-13 photographic depiction of the human body will have an adverse affect on children? Or is it that children shouldn't be exposed to the fact that gay people exist?
Why don't we go back to the old days when gays skulked around in shady bars run by the mafia? Yeah, that'd be great. Better for the children!
Crapper, are you concerned about prostitution being run out of these bars?
the postcard is sorta depressing. They wanna give the customer a free party?, that sets off the BS alarm.
To me, they are trying to jazz up a sad old man's bar. now if you were going to start talking sex trafficking of underage boys,being taken across state lines or being trafficked from out of the US, then that will be another story.
as for gay prostitution, look into massage therapists, there were a couple of gay male ho's in Woodside.
Why don't we go back to the old days when gays skulked around in shady bars run by the mafia? Yeah, that'd be great. Better for the children!
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1. nice how everyone dodges the religous issue - maybe it will just go away, right? sure...
2. the depiction of all forms of sex in the public is disgusting and cheapens it. gay and straight.
I have no problem with gays.
I have no problem with gay marriage.
I don't have a problem with this activity happening on private property.
I do have a problem when these postcards are being handed out to the public, and apparently outside schools, which is where I found this postcard and others. If you think this is something that is good for the neighborhood, sorry, but I disagree with you.
Well, Crappy, I'm glad we're mostly on the same page. But your original post was not about finding those flyers outside a school. So you can see why you'd be misinterpreted.
I concede that point, but the bar seems to be misrepresenting itself as well.
whats that smell?
How is the bar "misrepresenting" itself? Should they have a rainbow flag flying outside? Neon lights warning, "GAYS ALL UP IN HERE!"?
I love how you conveniently left out the story about the flyer in your original post, Crappy. You're about as unbiased at the NYT. This entry comes off as a big old gay bash.
What story? I found it, I posted it. You mean you approve of these things being handed out in your community? It belongs in the Village Voice. The bar is misrepresenting itself as a nice little friendly neighborhood hangout, when in reality, some kinky shit goes on inside.
Oh here we go. If you disapprove of the shady goings on in local bar, you must hate gays. Typical knee-jerk stupidity we've come to expect from that crowd.
I'm sure this link is being passed around the gay community as we type.
Never mind that Crappy has posted this kind of shit several times in the past - all of them regarding "straight" bars promoting prostitution. Three arrests were even made at one of these parties for drugs and made the papers.
Nope, it must be that the Crapper hates gays. The hysteria is nauseating.
Anonymous:
1. nice how everyone dodges the religous issue - maybe it will just go away, right? sure...
Well, you can't impose your religion on anyone else, so there's that.
2. the depiction of all forms of sex in the public is disgusting and cheapens it. gay and straight.
You know Jesus - maybe you've heard of him? - once said that nothing that we put into our bodies, no food that we might eat, has the power to make us unclean. We're only unclean because of what's in our hearts. And I'd say the same thing goes for the images we might view.
Anyway, it's just sex. Get over it.
As for finding fliers in front of a school, I'd be interested to find out how they got there. Whether they were brought there by the operators of the bar - which, perhaps, wouldn't be appropriate - or whether they were tossed there by passers by. In any case, I had access to much, much worse when I was in grade school - there was hardly a guy I knew who didn't have a sacred stash of porno mags - and that was before the world wide web. These fliers are pretty tame compared to what a kid with an internet connection can find in about three seconds of searching.
Well, you can't impose your religion on anyone else, so there's that.
But if you own a gay bar, and wish to print flyers with near naked guys on them and have them thrown about the neighborhood for school children to collect, that's perfectly acceptable.
If you wish to have a parade every June on Fifth Avenue, with near naked guys dancing on floats for the whole world to see, that's also acceptable.
So just shut up and deal with it, or else we'll start calling you HOMOPHOBES!
You know Jesus - maybe you've heard of him?
This is completely stupid. You tell us above:
you can't impose your religion on anyone else, so there's that.
And now you're quoting religious scripture to bolster your argument?
I guess you conveniently skipped over Leviticus 18 when making your argument, eh?
(And if you try and tell me that everything Jesus said abrogates the Old Testament, I'll have you reported for anti-Semitism!)
MYTH
1. nice how everyone dodges the religous issue - maybe it will just go away, right? sure...
Well, you can't impose your religion on anyone else, so there's that.
REALITY
Nor your lifestyle. And when it comes to thinking the right of putting your hand in a mans pants, or his *** in your mouth, trumps religion, I think you have a lot to learn.
But then, again, you aren't probibally that old or have that much life experience. Nothing gives you religion like living.
MYTH
2. the depiction of all forms of sex in the public is disgusting and cheapens it. gay and straight.
You know Jesus - maybe you've heard of him? - once said that nothing that we put into our bodies, no food that we might eat, has the power to make us unclean. We're only unclean because of what's in our hearts. And I'd say the same thing goes for the images we might view.
REALITY
Ah, shucks, in your world is gay porn is good for kids, eh? (come to think of it, are you a member of that man-boy group, eh?
The point is scripture does say there is a time for this, and a time for that.
And frankly, I gets not only boring, but downright cheapens humanity to see blonds with boobs and lots of leg or hunks in need of a shave with open shirts and the like, as well as suggestive depictions or the same in word or images.
Being bombarded like this is one of the reasons for pediphile priests, out of wedlock births, and the whore culture as a pre-teen style.
As a matter of fact, since its really a class issue, you really do not understand.
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