Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Census bullshit talk

From NY1:

With the deadline to return the census forms quickly approaching, local community leaders got a special visit Thursday from the U.S. Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke who gave them a pep talk on the importance of responding to the count, regardless of people's immigration status or living arrangements.

Many census workers report having a tough time convincing new and illegal immigrants to fill out the forms while others say people with multiple families in a dwelling are sometimes undercounting how many people are living there.

The government and local leaders are worried about a serious undercount in places that traditionally have low counts. But there is growing concern that areas like Middle Village, Ridgewood and Maspeth -- which used to have healthy participation rates -- may not this time around because of changing demographics.

"We want to see every person who could be possibly counted counted so that we have the proper representation of state, local and federal governments," said Congressman Joseph Crowley.


From the Daily News:

"Anyone who thinks ignoring the census forms doesn't have consequences is just wrong," Mayor Bloomberg said during an update on Wednesday at City Hall.

"That low response rate could have really serious complications and consequences for our city. It's been estimated that for every person not counted in the census we lose about $3,000 in federal aid a year," Bloomberg said.


Okay, now it's time for a Crappy rant, so buckle your seatbelts, folks...

"Areas like Middle Village, Ridgewood and Maspeth -- which used to have healthy participation rates" are fast becoming dumps thanks to Mayor Bloomberg's following retarded policies since 2002:

1) Encouraging teardowns of 1 & 2 family homes with replacement by apartment buildings.
2) Encouraging illegal immigration by perpetuating the sanctuary city policy.
3) Encouraging illegal conversions. In fact, he told the Queens Civic Congress he wasn't planning to do anything about the problem because then the people living in these units would have nowhere to live. (Interestingly, but not surprisingly, the QCC never made a big stink about that.)
4) Rejecting one Queens landmarking application after the other.
5) Starving the public while giving tax breaks to developers.

All of this leads to:

6) Encouraging absentee landlordism. Which means Joe and Jane Smith move to Long Island and stuff as many people into their illegally carved up home back in Queens as possible. So long as they can collect the rent, who cares? They don't have to deal with the problems they cause. So only 2 forms get sent to a house with 7 families living in it, and both forms get ignored.

On top of all that, we have repeated messages that insult our intelligence, like this:
- How will we know how many hospitals we need if we don't fill out the census?
- How will we know how many trains we need if we don't fill out the census?
- How will we know how many schools we need if we don't fill out the census?
- It's been estimated that for every person not counted in the census we lose about $3,000 in federal aid a year.

Well here's the thing... even when you boys know, we don't see any improvements in these services. In fact, we're down multiple hospitals here in Queens since the last census, while our population has increased dramatically. Let's not forget the cuts in train service, elimination of bus routes and overcrowded schools which are all the results of broken promises. All while the coveted federal aid goes toward bullshit tweeding programs and grandiose development schemes.

And that's why no one's filling out the census. Deal with it, Bloomberg, as you have no one to blame for this but yourself.

(As for you, Honest Joe, we know that your biggest concern is to get more Democrats in Congress. You're all about the tweeding. Talk about an absentee landlord... How's Virginia these days?)

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

Rep Joe Crowley probably has the biggest house on the block in Alexandria, Va!

Thanks Joe for showing up in an election year, the year we turn you out of office. The Tea Party will be most effective in ridding offices of Dems this fall.

Anonymous said...

that is why i refuse to fil the censes. fuck them. they want more money for christie quinn's slush fund . and elizabeth crowley is a lIAR. She scammed me to volunteer for her campaign and now when back on HER promise. She will lose next term. PROMISE

Anonymous said...

Bravo Crappy, Bravo! An outstanding rant which sums up the whole truth; the truth that not one politician in this city seems brave enough to face.

Anonymous said...

The census form's race question is the most offensive of all. While Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese are listed as separate races- Bulgarians, Romanians, and Hungarians are regarded as the same race.

Anonymous said...

Our Federal Government still hasn't secured our borders nor will they in the future. This is an open invitation to all illegal immigrants to come here. Well, they're here and they are not filling out their census forms. Maybe if our government made it difficult for them by securing our borders, denying them medical benefits, housing and food stamps, they would come in the legal way. Since that's not the case, why would they fill these forms out? They have no reason to. They will get their entitlements no matter what. Americans will be denied services, not the illegals. As for Joe Crowley, I hope he likes his house in Virginia and hope he can afford it when he's out of a job come November. Maybe he'll move back to Woodside, where he grew up, if he can recognized this once beautiful neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

While Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese are listed as separate races- Bulgarians, Romanians, and Hungarians are regarded as the same race.

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Gypsies?

georgetheatheist said...

Yesterday, I chased an old Chinese woman from my neighbor's front patch of grass. She was picking the yellow weed-like flowers from the turf. I asked her what she was doing, but she of course could not speak English. She pointed to her belly with a rubbing gesture then her mouth, indicating she was picking this flora to eat. I came back five minutes later and she was still there, further up by the wall, plopping these weeds into her plastic bag. I told her to scram and she did.

BTW this house is in Woodside. My neighbor, the owner, from Fujian Province, lives in Little Neck.

Anonymous said...

The reason for the census is to count the people and adjust our government seats so there is adequate representation in government. Since our politicians no longer represent their constituents and do what is in their parties and their own best interests, I understand why people are pissed and don't want to fill out the census form. The politicians want more government. The people want less. As for money that's due us based on the census count, New Yorkers pay more taxes than most of the people in the nation, so we are last in line for Federal monies. This is why New Yorkers don't give a crap. We have our own problems with our Albany politicians.

Anonymous said...

I agree with all that you guy say, and I want to know why I keep receiving the census form every few days.

BOSS TWEED said...

Can I count on you?

Anonymous said...

Areas like Maspeth and Middle Village are havens for illegal tenants because the home owners in Maspeth and Middle Village only care about the almighty dollar, so now none of us will get the services we need.

LibertyBoyNYC said...

And the tshirt reads, "I'm with Crappy!"

Anonymous said...

It's true. Maspeth and Middle Village homeowners live on Long Island and rent out to anyone who can pay the rent. Then the illegals bring in extra people who pay them rent so they can pay their rent. However, the economy is bad and soon even the illegals won't have the money to pay. Wait till the owners try to evict them. Wish them luck. They will need it.

I. Judge Knott said...

Seems to me that the Census is a damn if you do, damn if you don't decision for households.

Anonymous said...

Law abiding people will fill out the census. The rest of the people won't. It's that simple.

Anonymous said...

"Law abiding people will fill out the census. The rest of the people won't. It's that simple."

No, it's not. Show me the part of the law that says the Federal Government is entitled to any information other than a head count and I'll give it to them, if not, I won't.

Anonymous said...

I only filled out the headcount. That's it. That's all the Constitution requires. Sent it, then got three more. Why?

Anonymous said...

I think that we are getting more than one form because they figure we will fill it out again. This way we will be counted more than once and they need numbers. They will end up making the count higher than it really is anyway. They want more seats in government.

Anonymous said...

99 % correct, except how exactly did Bloomberg encourage illegal conversions ?
In 2009 the Quality of Life unit of the DOB vacated over 900 illegal apartments & or buildings. With over 4,000 violations issued. One third of which were illegal conversions violations.
Consistantly for many years.
Illegal conversions have existed regardless of the mayor for many years.
Because of the very things mentioned in the rant, the problem has exploded all over the city just like the rat population.
Any enforcement, other than criminal, will never solve the issue.

Queens Crapper said...

99 % correct, except how exactly did Bloomberg encourage illegal conversions ?
In 2009 the Quality of Life unit of the DOB vacated over 900 illegal apartments & or buildings. With over 4,000 violations issued. One third of which were illegal conversions violations.
Consistantly for many years.


You answered your own question. We now have more dwelling units and more people living here than ever before and the numbers are consistent through the years? They should be increasing.

Sounds like Bloomie is telling DOB to lay off the illegal apartment dwellers. While we are being told that the answer is to build more units of "affordable housing" and increase the official population by a million (who are already here unofficially).

Anonymous said...

Interesting....

so the next time someone says the illegal immigrants add rather than take from the economy, and are benecial rather than harmful to the average citizen, this loss of federal monies through undercount should be factored in.

georgetheatheist said...

You VILL wear a seat belt!
You VILL answer these racial questions!!
You VILL buy health care!!!

Anonymous said...

I live in Maspeth and own a legal two family but use it as a one.. I filled out the stupid census and mailed it back, stating that no one lives in the second dwelling we use it as a one family.. well got in the mail a new set of census bullshit and threw it away. Next someone will be ringing my bell and will receive the finger.. No one cares in Maspeth and Middle Village because the city does shit to help our communities.. So to the state and the city kiss my ass.

Anonymous said...

I also got the American Community Survey a few months ago. When I didn't fill it out, a big really ugly, I mean really really ugly fat woman from ACORN showed up at my door. I told her to f off through the closed door but looked through peephole. You should have seen the look on her face! She went to neighbor but got nada because neighbor can't speak English.

Now THAT part of the census is gestapo for sure - asks you how often go to bathroom, can you go by yourself, how many bathrooms do you have? Asks what time you go to work and so much more intrusive stuff.

Then two weeks ago, someone showed up and asked if any Spanish people live in my apartment. Wouldn't leave until I said through the door: Calling the cops.

Anonymous said...

How will we make a zillion dollars selling your personal information if you don't fill out the census?

How will we give Census jobs to bilingual Spanish-English speakers alone and ignore all native speakers and speakers of other languages who have slowly and painfully learned English if you don't fill out the form...

Anonymous said...

When I didn't fill it out, a big really ugly, I mean really really ugly fat woman from ACORN showed up at my door.

I seriously doubt the credibility of your story! ONLY official Census Bureau employees can collect data from the Census. Of course you like to be a drama queen. JERK!

Anonymous said...

The reason you are calling me names is because you are either from ACORN or you know I'm telling the truth. Or you are a stalker. So pick one or all of the above. I have no reason to lie. And smarty pants, there is a thing called the American Community Survey and they DO send people out to your house if you get one and don't fill it out.

And ACORN was the appointed army to impose this travesty.

Why call me a drama queen and a jerk unless I hit a nerve? Look it up, bozo - the survey is sent to some people and not others randomly, or so they say.

ACORN much?

Anonymous said...

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/government/american-community-survey-census-362385.html

JERK!

Anonymous said...

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/government/american-community-survey-census-362385.html

JERK!

Census Guy said...

You've been upgraded from jerk to asshole! The point IS that only swon Census Bureau employees can visit households and collect data. This applies to ALL Census Bureau surveys. That is what I do for a living. I don't collect data for ACS but I work on many other demographic surveys. We take an oath of confidentiality and it is reenforced annually. There are large penalties and jail time if the law is violated. Therefore, no one from ACORN or any other group came to your door to collect Census info. Stop your name calling, remove your head from your ass, and move on.

Anonymous said...

Hate to burst yr buble, DOB at the enforcement level has never been or ever will be politicaly influenced. And yes the amount of violations and vacates in Queens has increased CONSISTENTLY.
Public records suppport this.
Due to recent changes however, you may be 100 % correct in the future.

Anonymous said...

Why call me a drama queen and a jerk unless I hit a nerve? Look it up, bozo - the survey is sent to some people and not others randomly, or so they say.

You are obviously one of the asshole trolls who come here spreading false info and who clearly has not done research on this topic. Don't go away mad...but DO GO AWAY!!!

Anonymous said...

Don't need to do research - it happened. who are you to tell me it didn't? And yeah, I really believe, and all citizens really believe that you hold info in a confidential manner. Don't bully me. You are the asshole. Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Funny that you would pick me out of all the commenters. I have no reason to make it up but if you work for the Census, you sure do. And by the way, who works for the Census full-time? Oh,right, you conduct other surveys, and your word is the word of truth, because....

Census Guy said...

You were picked out of the crowd because you are LYING!!! If you don't believe me, call up the Census Bureau's New York Regional Office (212-584-3400) on Monday and ask if people who are not sworn Census employees can collect Census information, specifically members of the ACORN organization. Don't believe me if that's what your argument is but you can go to the source.

I was hired to conduct Census surveys after the 1990 decennial Census was completed and have worked for the bureau full-time ever since. You can go to the official site and see what surveys are conducted (www.census.gov).
However, now that you have a phone number to use, I suggest that you call to verify. Until then, FUCK OFF!

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