Saturday, March 28, 2009

CB13 concerned about apt building cell tower

From the Times Ledger:

Buoyed by concern that the effects from cell phone antennas are harmful, Community Board 13 narrowly voted Monday against a proposal by a cellular phone service provider to construct an antenna on top of a six−story apartment building in Bellerose.

Metro PCS, a company that recently received licenses from the Federal Communications Commission to build a cell phone network in the state, said an antenna is needed to fix a gap in service in the area for its customers.

The building at 222−89 Braddock Ave. where Metro PCS wants to install the antenna already has antennas from Verizon, Nextel and the city Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications on the roof.

Staten Island is having issues with them lately, too.


Anonymous said...

If ya wonder why your legitimate complaints are ignored by the city, maybe the locals should look to the fact that you act as if a cellphone tower is a Bubonic Plague Research Center. Grow up, adapt to modernity, and fight the fights that should be fought.

Jason in Kew Gardens said...

Perhaps Anonymous #1 is typing behind asbestos filled walls covered in lead paint.

Cell towers? Dangerous? Noooooo.

Anonymous said...

When did it become okay to put these towers that are used for commercial purposes in a residential neighborhood? And the funny thing is, we have no say!!

Why don't they put them along highways or in commercial/manufacturing areas?

Anonymous said...

Jason, dont worry, your tin foil hat will protect you. Italian girl, since when is using a cell phone a commercial enterprise?

Queens Crapper said...

Cell phone companies are commercial enterprises.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Nice hard science site last anon. I'll read the article you linked after I read the one about how my carpet is a "hazardous Bio-science experiment gone wrong".

Jason in Kew Gardens said...


It's fun to ignore statements from Nobel Prize nominated doctors regarding the damages these towers have on the health of those living nearby.

International Association of Firefighters? Bunch of dipshits.

Tool away.

-Joe said...

""Why don't they put them along highways or in commercial/manufacturing areas""
Need the height and on hills so the antennas can beam "down" on a cone pattern just overlapping the the next cell sight.
Unlike Broadcast band radio waves that bend around the curvature of the earth (Low frequency) high frequencys dont.

Sometimes when conditions are right radio waves can be refeacted back to Earth by the ionosphere, airplanes even space junk .
These paths are constantly changing reflections that are not reliable.

The trick is the height for the cell tower to look down on the phones. Buildings block or even bounce much of the signal to your advantage.
So the better the signal in the first place the more data (voice packets) per second cell sights can process.
2 Radios especially Marine VHF are more forgiving. Cell phones work on digital transmission, there is a very sharp cutoff to make or breaking a connection. They require a strong signal and constant "handshake"

For example
I guess your around 5.5 brunette standing at the waterline

Take 5.5ft and divid by 0.5736 = 9.588

Now take that 9.588 square root = 3.10 miles.
Thats the maximing you can see to the end of the water

Now to stand atop a 20 foot mast atop a 45 foot building and do the math
over 60 miles!!!


Anonymous said...

No Joe, that all sounds wrong to me.

Recheck your figures.

Anonymous said...

then its true electricity leaks out of unused light sockets!

-Joe said...

Typo the first one was for signal loss...its been so long since I took the FCC test plus im dislexic.
I originally studied to be a airplane pilot avation electronics but was banned.
So I went into acting and music (it paid better anyway)

SquareRoot (height above surface / 0.5736) = distance to horizon
where "height above surface" is in feet and "distance to horizon" is in miles.

Hmmm you could be 6 feet tall ?
Then standing right at the water's edge, about 5.5 feet above the surface. The formula to the horizon is:
SquareRoot(5.5 / 0.5736) = just over 3 miles

Option #2
Just use 1.17 times the square root of your height of eye adding your elevation, (building and land) height etc = Distance to the horizon in nautical miles.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Actually Joe I was just joking. I have no idea what you're talking about.

"I guess your around 5.5 brunette.."

"Hmmm you could be 6 feet tall ?"

Nope and nope.

Anonymous said...

Ummm, there are no alleged ill effects from cell phone towers. It's just junk science.

I assume these morons all have cell phones, right? It's MUCH worse putting a cell phone to your ear.

Anonymous said...

There are multiple alleged ill effects from cell towers. That's why the Feds had to pass a law to prevent people from stopping them.

Anonymous said...

Brilliant logic, anonymous. You're a science PhD, I'm sure!

There's also a federal law restricting infringements on free speech. Using your logic, I guess free speech leads to "multiple alleged ill effects", whatever that means...

Anonymous said...

Again, sarcasm is beyond some people. The tortured sounding logic in the last post is an attempt to be funny.

As far as the poster who reasonably asserts that many people press the phones to their ears every day. Well, there is good data that this can increase the risk of brain tumors. That is one reason why some people choose not to use the phones and others use devices to keep the phones away from their heads.

The point is that cell users can control what they are exposed to. Their neighbors near the transmission facilities have no such choice.

Anonymous said...

The city should have a special taskforce that understands about cell towers to take the complaints.
A bunch of cell towers went up of a building at 115th street and myrtle ave in Richmond hill last week and no one from the city inspected it to see if it was safe.