Tuesday, September 28, 2010

2nd Ave subway is far behind schedule & way over budget

From the NY Post:

The Second Avenue Subway may have avoided significant construction mishaps this year, but the troubled project is still far behind schedule and hundreds of millions of dollars over budget, lawmakers warned yesterday.

Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-Manhattan) said the Federal Transit Administration estimates that the first phase of the "T" train running between East 96th and 63rd streets will cost $420 million more than the MTA's $4.5 billion price tag, and wrap up two years later than the agency's 2016 target date.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sounds as expensive as cleaning up the Gowanus or Newtown creek.

Anonymous said...

Should have finished in the 80's.........

Queens Crapper said...

The source of this article was Carolyn Maloney. Call her office to check its validity. Lawsuits against the Post are not relevant to this discussion.

Anonymous said...

The source is the New York Post.
Carolyn Maloney corrupt as well as the Post is the topic.

Queens Crapper said...

So it's not behind schedule or overpriced?

Anonymous said...

Yes it is expensive and behind schedule.
As expected from the MTA and the city under bloomberg doesn't give its small percentage to the transit.

Queens Crapper said...

Ok, so then the report is correct. Thanks for clarifying.

Anonymous said...

This was not unexpected. The project has been underway for over 40 years. Stimulus money should have been obtained to fund over-runs. Does anyone represent us in Washington regarding this project? C. Maloney only shows up in public a month or two before elections. Perhaps this time she will no longer be available after the election.

Anonymous said...

The Second Ave Elevated was torn down from 1940-1942. The Second Ave Subway should have been constructed underneath it the same time as the line under Central Park West was. It wasn't. So it is 70 years late. Along with LIRR-East side access and the Water Tunnel, they are just about the only real infrastructure construction happening. Of course, it's late and over budget: It's a government run project. That's not news.

Anonymous said...

Far behind schedule?-- duh. They started this thing in the 1940s, right?

faster340 said...

"Federal Transit Administration estimates that the first phase of the "T" train running between East 96th and 63rd streets will cost $420 million more than the MTA's $4.5 billion price tag"

Wow I up my original quote by $20 and my customers get bent. I want these guys working for me! LOL $420m over... That's some funny shit...

Anonymous said...

Like the freedom tower most of us will never see it compleated up and running in out lifetimes.

Far to much $$ is being spent on social BS an special interest for people that dont belong here.
A $27 million renovation Queens Theatre in the Park + $100million Hall of Science to show Paki movies, dancing and babysitting the children of illegel nationals??

Sending 100K National Guard troops to Elmhurst & JH and throwing all those baby makers out (along with the UN) would be a good start. Those UN (Useless _iggers) bring the whole city to a stop and cost 10's of millions a day.
Most those UN diplomats are scofflaws, criminals and drunks that need to be babysat by the NYPD 24-7
The total cost of this current UN meeting could have paid for 1/2 that subway.

Rich Parkwood said...

The MTA says that the 2nd Avenue subway will relieve congestion on the Lexington Avenue line. But what would really do the job of that is running more trains on the Lex.

Waiting 15 minutes or more for a 6 train on a weekend afternoon is the norm.

If the MTA can't afford to run more trains on the lines that it already has, who do they think is going to operate this one?

Also, if it is only going to 63 Street with no new station built for the F train, it isn't particular useful either.

Anonymous said...

She gets churches torn down in record pace. Getting something to replace the weeds is something else.

Not bad for someone who got three bills passed in a decade - one of them changing the LIC post office to the Gernaldine Ferrarro Postal Facilty.

Some record.

Anonymous said...

Rich, that is incorrect. There is no time in the schedule during rush hours to run more trains on the Lex line. Improved signals (such as those on the L, but we know how long that project took) *might* help, but at this point we need more capacity, especially to replace the capacity we lost in the 50s when we tore down the Els.

Rich Parkwood said...

My comment on lack of service on the Lex was not in regard to its frequency during rush hour, but the lack of service in general.

With the current construction of the 2nd Ave line, between 96 & 63 Streets only, I question it's usefulness. Riders will still have to get off and walk to make a transfer to get them any further (such as the Lexington lines).

Also, I'm old enough to remember much more frequent service on all lines at rush hour.

Anonymous said...

All this waste of money for silk stocking residents of the York Ave - First Ave who don't like walking a few blocks - this is the truth - you know it - it not about the Bronx and Harlem riders - they are like Queens - they don't count.

Anonymous said...

How come everyone thinks when the MTA goes over budget for something it's OUT OF THE ORDINARY? Come on! What have they done in the last 40 years that came in under budget?

Anonymous said...

Maloney The Phoney

Anonymous said...

Dont knock her. You gave this woman 80+% of the vote.

And they say New Yorkers are savvy.