Thursday, August 24, 2017

But does the fountain work?

From NY1:

Borough President Melinda Katz and other elected officials cut the ribbon on the newly-dedicated Women's Plaza in Queens Tuesday. It now has new masonry, benches and plants.

The monument on Queens Boulevard and Union Turnpike used to be home to a statue called the "Triumph of Civic Virtue." It depicted a man standing over two women symbolizing corruption and vice.

“It really represented old-fashioned, old-fashioned thoughts about women,” said Claire Shulman, a former Queens Borough President.


As do you, grandma!

34 comments:

georgetheatheist said...

NY1 got it wrong. The removal of the beloved MacMonnies/Piccirilli Brothers masterpiece, "Civic Virtue Triumphant Over Unrighteousness", by that useless slug, the late Borough President Helen Marshall, did not occur in 2014, but on the bitterly cold day and evening of December 15, 2012. I was there watching and recording this abject disgusting event. Check out the exclusive video HERE. (Added benefit: watch the statue being transported to Brooklyn over the old Kosciuszko bridge.)

Have to laugh at the "Women's Monument" ribbon-cutting by these typical Queens braying imbeciles: a ribbon-cutting for a statue base with the statue missing. The hanging of a picture frame without the picture.

JQ LLC said...

They replaced a statue with significance with what is basically a massive bidet.

I think a new statue should have been erected of a group of smug grinning lobbyists and chairpeople from REBNY.

JQ LLC said...

Melinda should be reminded that this "monument" doesn't venerate women. For there is nothing there and in a way belittles and nullifies the unidentified women that it's supposed to honor. All that is there is a slab of concrete.

Great job you slags.

I changed my mind, for a monument of true relevance, it should be a group of hipshits or a family of tourists being oblivious and hogging a sidewalk like they owned it

Anonymous said...

This is just the first step of the dedication of that space. Over the upcoming years we will see busts of Marshall, Schulman, Ferraro, Stavitsky, Meng, and Katz. All politicians. Who else should be added?

Anonymous said...

This is just the beginning. Just wait for our beloved monuments to Washington, Franklin, Columbus and others to be removed from their pedestals, and the same cadre who ruled on their demise, to be picking new monuments to replace them. Of course, all this will only happen after the mayoral election .

Anonymous said...

"Triumph of Civic Virtue." It depicted a man standing over two women symbolizing corruption and vice."

Katz, Marshall and Schulman; a triumvirate of corruption and vice.
But speaking of Vice and corruption, how much money did Katz and her ex-lover Curtis Sliwa swindle from Sliwa's ex-wife?

Anonymous said...

Sickening to see these political hacks taking kudos for this plaza. What has any of them done to make life truely better for the citizens of Queens? Not a friggin thing!

Anonymous said...

Guess where was Koslowitz was? Too busy enlarging your nanny state city government.

Anonymous said...

It's hard to believe that this cost nearly 1 million dollars.

Anonymous said...

When they first removed this statue, I thought it was a one time lark, a bout of temporary insanity that would soon be rectified, that we'd looked back at as a particularly stupid and embarrassing bit of borough historical trivia.

Instead, it was the wave of the future. Now all over the country, people are demanding the removal of statues that offend them. Soon, empty bases and "planned ruins" are all we'll have left of our history. And Queens will be remembered as Infection Zero, the place where this terrible idea got it's start, and the reason why this decade will be remembered by posterity with the same horror and astonishment that we regard the 1930s.

Anonymous said...

Again, and for EMPHASIS ADDED, following is the 'Cold Light of Day' comment (as told by documentary filmmaker, Robert LoScalzo, that was taken from the blog, Queens Crap, on Thursday, May 5, 2016:

❝As far as what is happening with the Triumph of Civic Virtue statue is concerned, one could never invent a story like this, because it just would not be believable.

City first denied any secret plan to move the colossal statue off of Queens Boulevard. City then implemented its secret plan, and moved statue to a Brooklyn cemetery on the pretext that cemetery would bear certain costs of restoring the statue. Instead, public funds paid to restore the statue—on the premises of the cemetery, where the statue remains now. Meanwhile, City is implementing separate plan to renovate the statue's fountain base at Queens Boulevard, at a cost that is 10 times greater than the cost of restoring the statue, and WITHOUT ever returning the statue to its base once everything is restored!

Would you restore the frame of the Mona Lisa, then put just the frame on display while sending the actual painting somewhere else, and expect the public to believe that's terrific? That's what is happening. The only beneficiary here is Brooklyn's private Green-Wood cemetery, which received a valuable colossal public art statue—still public property—for the cemetery to display as it pleases.

That's why this issue is not over, yet. And, it's a perfect example of why Queens is the laughingstock of art, among all of the City's boroughs.❞

❝Those who can make you believe absurdities will make you commit atrocities.❞ —Voltaire

❝It's dangerous to be right when government is wrong.❞ —Voltaire

Finally, I leave this LAST proverb especially for the empowered femi-nazi idiots of Queens like Marshall, Schulman, Ferraro, Stavitsky, Meng——and, especially Czarina Melinda (Alley) Katz, most of whom stood by and watched as a beloved (and prescient!) monument like 'Triumph of Civic Virtue' was lopped off of its prominent pedestal/fountain base on Saturday, December 15, 2012, and carted away on a flatbed truck to Green-Wood Cemetery (without public consent, much less due process and public referendum), EXACTLY like We, the People's democracy, which is likewise DOA BECAUSE of these empowered, corporate obedient whores of epic, humanitarian (and ecological) fail!

Whereas, I would be embarrassed, ashamed and disgraced to stand before a vacant, space, these walking corpse SCOURGES are only too eager to display their arrogance, and outright contempt for Queens County——the already ravaged-and-tonsured borough whom they willfully (and eagerly) helped to become the new, official gateway to 'The Fourth World,' and cultural wasteland of all art deprived (and art evicted!), public spaces like Kew Gardens Plaza that is against what We, the People demanded and SO ORDERED——and, the public be damned (again and STILL):

❝Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to SAY something.❞ ——Plato

Miles Mullin said...


Yea, 'Hack's Bluff' overlooking the 'Valley of the Queens.'

Anonymous said...

Over the upcoming years we will see busts of Marshall, Schulman, Ferraro, Stavitsky, Meng, and Katz.

Gag. You couldn't pay me to look at any of their busts.

Anonymous said...

"It's hard to believe that this cost nearly 1 million dollars."

What's hard to believe is that it didn't cost a lot more.
And remember almost two years ago to this day freakin' idiot BP Katz laid out about $300,000 of our Queens budget for lighting up Franklin D. Roosevelt Four Freedoms State Park on Roosevelt Island, located in Manhattan (It should still be called Welfare Island considering this), so that LIC residents could appreciate the view.

Read this.

Anonymous said...

Alas, the 'UNITED STATES of AMNESIA and ENTERTAINMENT' was always a corporate controlled/tyrannical government way before anyone even ever coined the term 'fascism.'

Meanwhile, Venezuela is on the verge of civil war (it's a dictatorship, now that mayors and politicians are being locked up), and in the Philippines, President Duterte is using his police like a military exercise, as journalists are randomly being killed for doing their jobs (and risking their lives), as the military police state continue to shoot the free press with impunity, and then they plant drugs and weapons on them before the crime scene is properly secured, so that they can justify their actions for killing them. Think it can't happen over here, when the actions of these entrenched sociopaths have already left their mark with the eviction of Civic Virtue?

And, here is what the always prescient George Orwell said, so very long ago:

❝Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.❞
George Orwell—'1984'
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❝We could put Democrats in exhibits, behind glass, watching white political bosses chomp cigars and pass out goodies for votes, as minorities were relegated, as they are today, to failing schools and lost educational opportunity and neighborhoods that have become killing fields for the young and old.

And in great museums, the Democrats could be studied, safely, without endangering the sensibilities of the children.❞
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When I read this I have to laugh at our slave masters, the Democrats who treat us as the darkies whose hard work they tax to pay their graft and corruption – and the arrogant contempt they have for you and me. Time to break our chains, Niggas.

Further, in 1971, the Lewis Powell memorandum will tie all knots and connect all dots... another version of this kind of hostile takeover of government happened in 1913 with the robber barons, big industry and the military-industrial complex.

With Woodrow Wilson leading the way creating the fed and the central banking system... this is what created the biggest economic downturn in our country's history... boom and bust is back, only benefiting the top end... these are extracting and extortion tools used by monetary locusts...

❝Politicians are the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.❞ —Frank Zappa

Ya mean, it weren't about muh freedom? Yeah—freedom from living!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/…/ct-statues-democrats-kass-0…

georgetheatheist said...

Just curious. When Shulman kicks off, will Katz have her stuffed and polyurethaned and placed on the monument base? Katz, be sure she's in the bent-over position with her rancid ass facing the Queens Boulevard traffic.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This is just the first step of the dedication of that space. Over the upcoming years we will see busts of Marshall, Schulman, Ferraro, Stavitsky, Meng, and Katz. All politicians. Who else should be added?

what about Dizzy Lizzy?
but i don't know if they got enough marble for a copy of her big wide ass

Anonymous said...

Removing this statue was the correct thing to do, because as we all know there is no room for Civic Virtue in Queens.

Anonymous said...

Anthony Weiner was in favor of removing this statue and we all know how much Carlos Danger loved women.

Anonymous said...

Alas, the 'UNITED STATES of AMNESIA and ENTERTAINMENT' was always a corporate controlled/tyrannical government way before anyone even ever coined the term 'fascism.'

Meanwhile, Venezuela is on the verge of civil war (it's a dictatorship, now that mayors and politicians are being locked up), and in the Philippines, President Duterte is using his police like a military exercise, as journalists are randomly being killed for doing their jobs (and risking their lives), as the military police state continue to shoot the free press with impunity, and then they plant drugs and weapons on them before the crime scene is properly secured, so that they can justify their actions for killing them. Think it can't happen over here, when the actions of these entrenched sociopaths have already left their mark with the eviction of Civic Virtue?

And, here is what the always prescient George Orwell said, so very long ago:

❝Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.❞
George Orwell—'1984'
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
❝We could put Democrats in exhibits, behind glass, watching white political bosses chomp cigars and pass out goodies for votes, as minorities were relegated, as they are today, to failing schools and lost educational opportunity and neighborhoods that have become killing fields for the young and old.

And in great museums, the Democrats could be studied, safely, without endangering the sensibilities of the children.❞
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
When I read this I have to laugh at our slave masters, the Democrats who treat us as the darkies whose hard work they tax to pay their graft and corruption – and the arrogant contempt they have for you and me. Time to break our chains, Niggas.

Further, in 1971, the Lewis Powell memorandum will tie all knots and connect all dots... another version of this kind of hostile takeover of government happened in 1913 with the robber barons, big industry and the military-industrial complex.

With Woodrow Wilson leading the way creating the fed and the central banking system... this is what created the biggest economic downturn in our country's history... boom and bust is back, only benefiting the top end... these are extracting and extortion tools used by monetary locusts...

❝Politicians are the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.❞ —Frank Zappa

Ya mean, it weren't about muh freedom? Yeah—freedom from living!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/…/ct-statues-democrats-kass-0…;;

Anonymous said...

Even actual Mafia crime family rings worldwide could never compete, much less rival or surpass, the OPENLY PRACTICED, criminal enterprise that has entrenched Queens Borough Hall and City Hall since before metastasized cancers like Donald Manes, Claire Schulman, Geraldine Ferraro, Helen Marshall, Stavitsky, Meng and 'Third Reich' Melinda were even hatched!

The stranglehold that government bought henchmen now forcefully exert over We, the People's abrogated democracy, freedom, rights and liberties is now even worse than ANY organized crime family rings worldwide, and worse, the government criminal enterprise is now LEGALLY organized corruption, graft and greed.

Alas, if ever there was a time in Queens history to make public corruption a capital offense, then these hideous creatures of arrogance, corruption and sadism would be the ugly faces that should trigger immediate civil unrest and anarchy in the streets to SO ORDER it into law.

I can just see the PR campaign now, from a polluted Borough Hall: QUEENS County: Come for the cultural wasteland, lawlessness, vigilantism and endless loop of political corruption,
graft, greed and destruction——stay for the noise & sight pollution that leads to a bloody SECOND revolution (the only way to rid a toxic scourge like the kind that has infected-and-infested city government——to complete and total ruination!

Anonymous said...

It wasn't designed by no feminist. It takes four women to turn it on.

ron s said...

So we are celebrating:
The removal of a piece of art
Secret removal actions at night using public funds
The removal of a statement against corruption (highly relevant in Queens)
The creation of a monument consisting of a used pedestal from a former monument
The corrupt Queens leadership by corrupt Queens women over decades

Anonymous said...

To last Anonymous: What does that even mean? Maybe if you actually picked up a book on 20th century art and allegory then you would know what you are talking about. Right now, I'm not even sure why you chose to weigh in on a matter that you know nothing about, much less to be able to write clearly in support of a logical argument for anyone else to understand.

Anonymous said...

>BP Katz laid out about $300,000 of our Queens budget for lighting up Franklin D. Roosevelt Four Freedoms State Park on Roosevelt Island,

I'm surprised they're not calling for it's removal, given how problematic both Roosevelt and the concept of Freedom are to the regressive left.

Anonymous said...

To last Anonymous: What does that even mean? Maybe if you actually picked up a book on 20th century art and allegory then you would know what you are talking about. Right now, I'm not even sure why you chose to weigh in on a matter that you know nothing about, much less to be able to write clearly in support of a logical argument for anyone else to understand.

Anonymous said...

To last Anonymous: What does that even mean? Maybe if you actually picked up a book on 20th century art and allegory then you would know what you are talking about. Right now, I'm not even sure why you chose to weigh in on a matter that you know nothing about, much less to be able to write clearly in support of a logical argument for anyone else to understand.

Anonymous said...

Katz's douche bidet.

Anonymous said...

""as journalists are randomly being killed for doing their jobs (and risking their lives), as the military police state continue to shoot the free press with impunity""
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And this is a bad thing ?
Journalists (the media) are all scum of the earth PC correct progressive liberals perhaps 2nd or 3rd to ISIS and Queens politicians.
The less on this planet the better !

JQ LLC said...

Yes it's a bad thing, it's a very very bad thing. Last anon.

Isis are liberals?!

Anonymous said...

Thank you a million times over, Ron S., for talking truth to hyper-corrupt power, as you have effectively summarized the openly practiced government tyranny from the past and present Queens Borough Hall, with six concise, but densely packed sentences.

This is why more than half of the US population don't vote, because the system continues to behave like predatory, rapacious and unresponsive tyrants. Triumph Of Civic Virtue was a beloved statue that merely required a $30,000 cleaning job (because of decades of intentional neglect by walking corpse Claire Schulman, followed by an ACTUAL corpse, Helen Marshall, as the tradition of dereliction of public duty proudly continues with a disgraced, disloyal, neo-fascist, corporate obedient, pink pussy hat-wearing anarchist named Czarina Katz.

Her entire administration is so entrenched in party-machine-failed corruption that is establishment-rigged, that the entire borough of Queens, under her 300% false, fake and utterly failed leadership now DEVALUES all honesty itself——to pathologically high treasonous, traitorous and tyrannical effect——and, the public be eternally duped, bilked, scammed, SCARRED FOR LIFE, and damned!

In the end, the systemic damage that these empowered idiots inflict on We, the People's Fourth World society of epic fail, will malinger LONG after these voracious thieves (of the lives, livelihoods and youth of others), turn into a toxic pike of biohazardous ash...

Anonymous said...

Imagine that: Civic Virtue in a cage, versus the REAL criminal sociopaths at Borough Hall, all of whom are cage free, to continue with their endless loop of OPENLY PRACTICED corruption, graft and greed, for which everyone else continues to pay the ultimate price (in perpetuity)! The DOJ is DOA!

In fact, a criminal justice system that imprisons We, the People's beloved 'Triumph Of Civic Virtue' (and not the crooked-and-corrupt politicians who so order this publicly unauthorized crime spree), is a system that condones all violence, lawlessness and vigilantism to prevail, until all hell finally breaks loose into full blown anarchy in the streets.

Karma will definitely catch up with you, Melinda, you filthy, walking venereal disease SKANK——and so much sooner than later. The future (and karma), always have a peculiar way of arriving——UNANNOUNCED!

❝We hang the petty thieves, and elect the great ones to public office.❞ ——Aesop

Mitchell said...

The Statue should be returned..So women's park??? What about men ?? The plaza was for all before its destruction.

Anonymous said...

No, the fountain does not work, they cleaned it, but they turned it into a gigantic planter.

Borough Hall, and Queens, loses yet another beautiful thing, thanks to our grossly incompetent, and unimaginative, politicians.

Cuomo, at least, is taking charge. He's the only decent politician we've got in the state, as far as I'm concerned.

De Blasio can go fly a kite.