Tuesday, March 8, 2016

More, smaller jails mean one near you

From AM-NY:

Many New York City Council members and community leaders favor moving detainees off Rikers Island, but won’t necessarily want them shifted to borough jail facilities, say players on all sides of the debate about the future of the violence-plagued complex.

Already, representatives from areas with existing city detention centers voiced apprehension or predicted there will be pushback on the idea of absorbing Rikers’ inmates.

“While I support the goal of eventually closing down Rikers, any proposal that involves diverting inmates to this already crowded complex is not a feasible solution,” Council Member Margaret Chin, from Chinatown, said of the lower Manhattan jail known as the Tombs.

Council Member Karen Koslowitz, whose district includes Kew Gardens where the Queens Detention Complex — used now only for officer training — is located, said in a statement: “I need to be reassured that we are not just moving Rikers’ problems to smaller facilities.”

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

The taxpayers must have a say in thus through a voter referendum. Our politicians shouldn't have the last and only say in quality of life decisions affecting our homes, families, and neighborhoods. What does BP Katz have to say about this? Surely this can't be good for families therefore bad for Queens.

Jackson Heights Johnny said...

Hmmm!

I'm getting some vibes here....

Move out the inmates, tear down the facility, and then: start building LUXURY WATERFRONT DEVELOPEMENTS (water views in ALL directions)!

Developers, real estate agents, and hipsters of every ilk must be salivating already....

Anonymous said...

“I need to be reassured that we are not just moving Rikers’ problems to smaller facilities.”

Where do you think they'd be going??? She, like so many others who "represent" the city, are so oblivious to the world around them. She is a waste of space.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like some developer wants Rikers Island for new apartments with a water view,close to Manhattan and ever so hip Astoria.

Anonymous said...

Give them all a gun, a hundred rounds of ammunition, a knife and drop them off on a deserted island somewhere in the Pacific.

Anonymous said...

The taxpayers will absolutely have no say in this, particulary through any kind of voter referendum.
The nabes with political juice won't see jails used or built there. The nabes that are ghettos will get dumped upon as usual.

Anonymous said...

Where are they going, you ask? Oh, I figure places like the old Pan American Motel.

Anonymous said...

There goes "da Bronx"!
There goes a bit of LIC....Hallet's Cove...since the luxury housing plan don't seem to be moving foward?
There goes the crappy parts of Elmhurst.
Nothing near Douglas Manor.
Park 'em in Park Slope..Der Mayor's nabe!

Anonymous said...

They'll be moving the inmates to some privately run prisons upstate somewhere.
Hey, Poughkeepsie is a real shit hole city.
Build some big jails there and improve the local economy.
Ship 'em to Gitmo. Cuba could run it...make 'em capitalists...buy some new cars.

Anonymous said...

This is a really dumb plan so of course the city council loves it. Would developers really want Rikers though? There is constant air traffic over it. Besides the noise they wouldn't be able to build very tall buildings

Anonymous said...

Riker's Island will be a penal facility for the foreseeable future and then some.

The boy mayor believes he can produce land where there is none. After all the available land is utilized for "affordable housing" where will he get the additional land for neighborhood prisons?

Bring back Prison Barges and float them into Newtown Creek, Gowanus Canal, The Battery, Hallet's Cove, The Seventy-Ninth Street Boat Basin and so on.

I wonder how the boy mayor, Mark-Viverito and the progressive society would like that?

Anonymous said...

SOLUTION = SEND THEM ALL UPSTATE

Anonymous said...

@Jackson Heights Johnny

Funny how we all get the same cozy feeling this is a real estate deal for the benefit of the few and to the detriment of the rest.

Anonymous said...

Simple jail them in the neighborhoods where they live. Can't think of a better deterrence than the neighborhood kids seeing what they can turn into.

Anonymous said...

Well how about deporting the half of the population back to their own native countries for one and then how about sending the other half to live with mayor dumblasio?

Anonymous said...

Did some time on America's biggest MOSQUE, that's right,either you convert to Islam while your thier or you starve and face serious injury
Rikers is a major breading ground for radical Islamic american Terrorist
Just ask any correction officer working there
I went 13 days with no food or help.

Anonymous said...

How about putting them on a barge in the East or Hudson river?

Most of them can't swim anyway!

Anonymous said...

Funny how we all get the same cozy feeling this is a real estate deal for the benefit of the few and to the detriment of the rest.

Also looks like a jobs program which means an affirmative action jobs program for green carded foreigners and blacks, Hispanics and...
My logic says lots of small facilities translates into more people needed to man them. And don't forget the prison shrinks (mostly Hindus these days)!! They want to get paid too!

Anonymous said...

This is all a big front for the real estate and construction industry. I'm sure they are behind the scenes pushing for this. Once rikers is closed what do you think they will do with the land? They are going to build build build. That is a huge chunk of property that they would love to get.

Anonymous said...

Sure, high rises next to the airport means planes will have to be rerouted over communities.

JQ LLC said...

"This is all a big front for the real estate and construction industry. I'm sure they are behind the scenes pushing for this."

For further fucking confirmation---

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20160228/REAL_ESTATE/160229896/rikers-reimagined-innovative-ideas-to-turn-the-infamous-island-into

The council speaker is using horrible human rights violations and perpetual endemic corruption and anarchy there as an elaborate ruse. And their overseer predator developers seem to be starving, because speculation of this just proves how desperate and greedy they are that they see a way to make bank with the same way the in house lobbyist cabal is advising De Faustio to construct over parking lots by NYCHA housing.

these people are clearly mentally ill, it's not only the loons running around stabbing and slashing on the streets we have to worry about on a daily basis.

Anonymous said...

Why close down Rikers? It's the ultimate solution to NIMBY objections. The jail has to be somewhere, and no one wants it in their neighborhood - so why not keep it on an island where no one lives?

Anonymous said...

Why close down Rikers? It's the ultimate solution to NIMBY objections. The jail has to be somewhere, and no one wants it in their neighborhood - so why not keep it on an island where no one lives?

Because the only point that matters is what developers want - knowing that NYC is so dysfunctional they can do anything they want