Saturday, September 13, 2014

Never ending variance goes down in flames at CB7

From the Times Ledger:

After a couple hours of yelling, confusion and chaos, Community Board 7 voted Monday night to extend a variance for an Auburndale business on Northern Boulevard, preserving the conditions of a previous agreement.

At issue was an application by Utopia Realty, at 167-04 Northern Blvd., to renew its variance, which has been based on a 10-year term, to last forever and to remove a provision which requires the owner to consult the board if he is considering selling the property.

The board’s Land Use Committee had already unanimously rejected the request and instead voted in support of renewing the existing variance for another 10 years.

Around 20 civic leaders and residents attended the meeting to voice their support of the committee’s recommendation.

Chuck Apelian, vice chairman of CB 7, was one of the lone dissenting voices to the Land Use Committee’s recommendation, arguing the 10-year variance put an unfair burden on the business.

“There seems to be some kind of hysteria that we’re rezoning all of Queens. We’re not,” he said. “It’s a small business. It’s half of what’s allowed.”

After a heated discussion, the board voted 31-4 in favor of extending the variance with the prior conditions.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

While the community was giving their testimony Chuck sat there playing on his cell phone the whole time.
Was he texting? emailing? Playing candy crush? Who knows?
One thing he wasn't doing was LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY.
He only piped up to stand for Mr. Luciano.
It was so obvious he made a promise he couldn't keep. At times it look like Chuck was going to cry because the little baby didn't get his way.

This meeting made CB7 look like a laughing stock with the owner of the property getting up to speak whenever he felt like it and Chuck let him.

Chuck is so corrupt it's so obvious.

Anonymous said...

No surprise here that Apelian was a dissenter. Who were the others?

Anonymous said...

There was no hysteria and no complaints against the land owner.

The community did not want to change the variance and Chuck did.

The only hysteria was Chuck's cranky speech. Like a little baby who doesn't get his way.

Anonymous said...

The other 3 clowns that for voted in favor of the owner were idiots who don't care about zoning. One of them was on facebook using his cell while the community was speaking. Another one said he would vote for the community then voted for the business owner and I don't know who the fourth one was.

Anonymous said...

The 4 who voted to change the variance were Chuck Appelian, Kim O'Hanian, Peter Sutich and Nick Carrado.
Chuck acted as if he was hired by the applicant to be their Lobbyist.
Devon O'Connor ran out of the room right before the vote was taken.
CM Vallone refused to meet with the civics prior to the hearing and not only did he not show up, he didn't even bother to send a representative.
Chuck's behavior was a disgrace. Time to push hard for new leadership of CB7.

Anonymous said...

Call Avella!

Anonymous said...

CM Vallone refused to meet with the civics prior to the hearing and not only did he not show up, he didn't even bother to send a representative.

Maybe his excuse will be that one of his constituents passed away and he was busy ministering and counseling the family - he tried that excuse once before.

Anonymous said...

Vallone actually wrote a letter in support of the full boards recommendations, not sure what these anonymous people are saying Vallone supported removing the clause

Anonymous said...

But like 90% of the comments on this site, the claim is baseless and without evidence

Anonymous said...

Throw Stinky out!

Get Tony on the case - he's the ONLY honest politician in Queens!

Anonymous said...

Yes, he used the death excuse to skip out on the debate at Bayside Historical last year.

Then when the post about this variance appeared last week on this blog, he had his guy scramble to call civic leaders to say he was against it. Then he again changed his tune and said that he would support whatever the CB voted, thinking Chuck might be able to pull it off. Devon saw the writing on the wall and high tailed it before the vote was taken.

Anonymous said...

ANON 8 "Vallone actually wrote a letter in support of the full boards recommendations, not sure what these anonymous people are saying Vallone supported removing the clause"

CM Vallone's "letter" was not read into the record and civic leaders didn't recieve a copy of his "letter". Maybe someone can post a copy of this "letter"on this site for everyone to read. Senator Avella sent a rep to read his statement into the record as did AM Braunstein. Senator Avella and AM Braunstein supported the community. CM Vallone and his staff were once again MIA.

Anonymous said...

Check this comment out by Warren Schrieber on Facebook: "Queens Crap is a hatemongering, anti-social blog that is written by a group of cowards. All fair minded individuals should make their voices heard and say "ENOUGH!" Tell Queens Crap to clean up its act or get lost."

Guess who liked that comment? Lionel Morales, Vallone's communications director. He obviously has more important things on his agenda than releasing Vallone's opposition letter or showing up for a CB7 meeting.

Anonymous said...

Check this comment out by Warren Schrieber on Facebook: "Queens Crap is a hatemongering, anti-social blog that is written by a group of cowards. All fair minded individuals should make their voices heard and say "ENOUGH!" Tell Queens Crap to clean up its act or get lost."


Hey Crappy - hasn't Warren sent you a trouve of info for posting over the years promoting issues in Bay Terrace?

If so, he's clearly been aiding and abetting your "hatemongering" blog. Hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Warren Schreiber's comment makes me feel like this....................

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Anonymous said...

Who is Devon O'Connor?

Anonymous said...

Never mind Vallone, call Tony Avella, he cares about the community

anonymous said...

CM Vallone mystery letter never made an apperance and Chuck Apelian couldn't even deliver Vallone's own people - Schrieber and O'Connor.It was a dark night for the Tsar and Rasputin.

Anonymous said...

The timing of the attack on the blog comes after the one two punch delivered in the form of the variance denial and then Liu losing the election. It's not a surprise and is laughable. The phony civic leaders in northeastern Queens are about to have their chickens come home to roost.

Anonymous said...


Kim O'Hanian voted at committee in favor with the community for no change to the variance. At the Public Hearing she changed her mind & shouted out a very nasty sounding "NO". Guess she is a do as Chuck says kinda gal.

georgetheatheist said...

"Check this comment out by Warren Schrieber on Facebook: "Queens Crap is a hatemongering, anti-social blog that is written by a group of cowards. All fair minded individuals should make their voices heard and say "ENOUGH!" Tell Queens Crap to clean up its act or get lost."
____________________________________
See? They're SEETHING with that Liu loss.

Queens Crapper said...

Yup, here's the list of outraged commenters on that thread:
Adam Lombardi
Matthew Silverstein
Devon O'Connor

Do you detect a pattern here?

Others jumped in and said the blog was helpful. So then the conversation became focused on who they think runs the blog (apparently it's everyone from a solitary woman to a group of people) and that some of the comments are racist and make fun of fat people, as if that's what they are really upset with.

These are supposed adults in northeastern Queens who consider themselves to be civic minded having this stupid discussion. Finally, yours truly told them if they found either the comments or content of the blog objectionable, then they were free to not read it.

Anonymous said...

I Love this blog, not only is it spot on accurate and truthful but some of the comments are really funny.

It gives people a forum to tell the truth without revenge from all the corrupt ones.

Go Crappie!!!

Anonymous said...

Crappie makes me happy.

Anonymous said...

Let's look at this ridiculous cast of characters: Warren Schrieber who can't remember at any one moment whether he is a civic leader, community board member, party hack or Vallone "employee", Adam Lomardi still immature enough to steal an opponent's campaign signs and party hack who wil lnever work in politics again, why; Matt Siverstein another mindless party hack waiting for his master to throw him a bone/office; Devon O'COnnor who ran out of the CB 7 vote crying "I don't want to grow up". Queens politics will never imiprove until we can get rid of the hangers on too.

Anonymous said...

I also took a look at that thread. At one point, Adam said, "I'd like QC to know that every time I'm mentioned by her, Chrissy and pony boy will be held responsible (a few more too) because well, they are. Sure you're cowardly by hiding, but hey, good for you. By the time we are finished, they'll be doing a pr death roll all thanks to you."

(I assume pony boy is Graziano?)

Don't you love the maturity level displayed by these people? Of course they're Vallone & Liu supporters.

Gary the Agnostic said...

They're running scared, Crapper.

georgetheatheist said...

And Warren Schreiber looks like a cadaver: Warren "The Cadaver" Schreiber.

Anonymous said...

Ah yes Devon
A throw back hack from our former and convicted fellon hollerin Dan the man halloran. Devon was running interference for the convict on the civics front. He attacked Kim Cody, Al Centola, Avella and several others who work hard to preserve their community.

Halloran was convicted and Vallone picked up this criminal. Doesn't that tell you something?

Kid is a cancer who will crash and burn. Steer clear. He's the one that claimed to have conducted a survey about the whitehouse restaurant debacle. He claimed his survey showed the community in favor. Halloran and his staff backed him. He never produced the survey, and well we know the outcry that ensued

I'm sure he will be seeing hollerin soon enough

Anonymous said...

georgetheatheatheist.....

I'm ROLF

Anonymous said...

Why does Devon's wtw11357 car have an NYPD parking permit?

Former 109 said...

PEOPLE!

Chrissy was hallorans chief of staff

She want to every bogus WTW meeting with her police escort Kevin (runs out of pct from punk who snatched his gun ).

She sat with him and halloran
She went to every meetin with him

Fodder

Anonymous said...

Why wouldn't CM Vallone meet with the civics to discuss this variance?

Anonymous said...

Vallone avoided meeting with the civics because he thought Apelluan would be able to pull a fast one and get the community board to vote in the applicants favor . A promise was made to Luciano by Vallone so if he avoided the civics till after the hearing he would just say sorry I had so many soccer games to go to and didn't know what was going on in my district . Hands washed..
This was a dirty deal gone bad .