Thursday, July 4, 2019

There's no way an 1100 vote lead disappeared without corruption



New York Times


The Democratic primary for district attorney in Queens, a race that drew nationwide attention, was thrown deep into uncertainty on Wednesday after a count of paper ballots flipped the primary-night result.

Tiffany Cabán, a 31-year-old public defender, saw her almost 1,100-vote lead evaporate, with 
Melinda Katz, the Queens borough president, edging out to a 20-vote lead.

The tight margin will automatically trigger a recount, according to Valerie Vazquez-Diaz, a spokeswoman for the New York City Board of Elections. It also spurred accusations from Ms. Cabán’s side that elections officials improperly invalidated more than 2,000 affidavit ballots before the paper ballots were counted.

“We are going to fight to make sure every valid vote is counted and every voter has a voice,” said Bill Lipton, the New York director of the Working Families Party, which supported Ms. Cabán. “And when all the votes are counted, we are confident Tiffany Cabán will be the next Queens district attorney.”

The primary race was cast as a battle between the traditional power bases in Queens and the progressive forces that propelled Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to her primary victory in New York last year. Ms. Katz had the backing of unions and local political leaders, while Ms. Cabán received support from prominent members of Congress, including Ms. Ocasio-Cortez.

Ms. Katz is ahead by 20 votes, 34,898 to 34,878, according to lawyers representing her. Jerry H. Goldfeder, a veteran election lawyer representing Ms. Cabán, agreed that Ms. Katz was now ahead by 20 votes.

The new vote total meant that Ms. Katz drew twice as many votes from the paper ballots as Ms. Cabán did.

Mr. Goldfeder said he intended to challenge the decision to invalidate all but 487 of the 2,816 affidavit ballots cast. Election officials said they had determined that the ballots, used when a voter’s name is not listed at the polling place, were invalid or had been cast by ineligible voters.

The Board of Elections would not release any information until the election results were certified but confirmed that there would be a recount. The board has a policy of conducting a manual recount when the victory is by less than 0.5 percent, Ms. Vazquez-Diaz said.

Crappy emailed me this bizarre (although expected) turn of events and wrote in the subject line and I am inclined to agree. Something like this happened in a district in Florida that the notorious Debbie-Wasserman Schultz represents. And of course there was the incident where 200,000 votes in Brooklyn vanished during the 2016 presidential primary. Go figure this would happen on the eve of the day of the birth of this nation. Apparently, the Queens Machine will stop at nothing to keep their crappy patronage jalopy running.

Update: I found a more appropriate picture.

58 comments:

Anonymous said...

Elections brought to you by today's Democratic Party!

I like how they say there isn't voter fraud with a straight face!

You filled out a ballot and you aren't a registered voter. That is FRAUD!!

When are they going to start treating this like the crime it is?

This is a practice run for the fraud they are going to try to pull in 2020 to get TRUMP out.

Anonymous said...

No surprise here. As Stalin said: "it is not the people who vote that count, it is the people who count the votes."

Anonymous said...

I'm reading this from far away, but as a former resident of Queens, who lived and worked in NYC for many decades, this doesn't surprise me. Look at the politicians who have been locked up for corruption over the years, from NYC, and you find, per capita, most of them are from Queens. What we are seeing in the D.A. race is out and out, in your face corruption. This needs a federal investigation. They are always chasing their tales in Washington, they should be looking at the real thing. The Queens Machine.

Anonymous said...

But you’re ok that Cabán and crew are obviously trying to allow illegals to vote?

I think both candidates are crap and that a Republican should hold this office.

But above all voter fraud should be something we all agree must not be allowed.

Anonymous said...

If 2000 Illegals voted and got caught the numbers of illegal ballets that slipped through must be even higher.
This is going to be good, the democrats & neo-socialists democrats are gonna kill each other over giving illegals voting rights.

Anonymous said...

If Katz does indeed "win" the election and Caban doesn't fight all the way to the Supreme Court, then the Democrat machine made a deal with Caban and she will get another position in the future.

Anonymous said...

To first ANON: EDUCATED YOURSELF, this is not a case of voter fraud (caused by a voter), this is corruption with the candidates and their team. I love how you mention Trump, when Trumps team had Russia involved in our elections, which that is a FACT. EDUCATE YOURSELF before you spout out lies and false truths. Unfortunately this is the Typical average American.

NO ONE is allowing illegals to vote, that is just a factoid, not FACT.

Anonymous said...

I'm being totally impartial here as I voted for Lasak (who actually seems qualified for this position). Anyways, there were around 6,000 absentee ballots from what I remember. You have to consider who that demographic may have been. I would imagine a great number of them might be "snow birds" who were in a warmer state at the time and that age group would generally be older, more established- the type that would vote for Katz over Caban, just look how heavily eastern Queens went for Katz and western for Caban. So, yes, it's crazy that's its down to 20 but I think it's possible.

Anonymous said...

This is why there should be a voter ID card. The left don't want it. They encourage illegals to vote in our elections because most vote Democratic. A valid voter ID card would solve a multitude of problems. This would be an honest attempt to eliminate fraud, however, you all know that there's no honesty in politics.

sam said...

Not surprised. Yes this was stolen somehow but it is also who is the lesser of 2 evils. In this situation it might be Melinda

Unknown said...

I'm sad to say that I was not aware of this election, and missed my chance to vote for Melinda Katz. Long gone are three days of campaign volunteers who would plaster posters all over election districts, make phone calls and knock on doors to get folks to the polls.

Anonymous said...

This is classic Queens.. quite frankly I was expecting the same thing when Holden defeated Liz Crowley

Betsy Ross said...

Ha. Love the moron in this thread crying about Russia and Trump. You probably voted twice for Mayor dip shit!

How did we get this dumb said...

Unknown is another typical Queens idiot. Try reading a newspaper once in awhile. Only an idiot would admit to needing a campaign volunteer to remind them to vote. Let me guess, you probably require a service animal to go about your daily routine.

Anonymous said...

Betsy Ross said...

Ha. Love the moron in this thread crying about Russia and Trump. You probably voted twice for Mayor dip shit!
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How ironic for you to use the name of a patriotic person, while the facts are the Russians hacked the 2016 election with the help of Trump's administration. What happened to American patriotism and the Russian, Putin, Kim, etc are enemies. I assume you never served for country. All the WWII vets who have died are rolling in their graves with crap like this and people like you.

JQ LLC said...

Last anon re: Russian hack.

No the Russians didn't hack the election. Mueller didn't find anything after 2 years. I didn't like the result, but Trump won fair and square with the electoral college.

Well, not entirely fair and square but it wasn't the Russians. I'll spare everyone with applying that old Pogo line.

https://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/

Knowing the World's Borough Machine Dems, I wouldn't put it past them to pull off similar chicanery. But we will all know by Saturday.

Anonymous said...

Long gone are three days of campaign volunteers who would plaster posters all over election districts, make phone calls and knock on doors to get folks to the polls.

Gee, I got mailings from almost all of the candidates - especially Katz and Lasak - almost every day for about a month, as well as robocalls from Katz surrogates like Paul Vallone and Andrew Cuomo urging me to vote for Katz. Don't know why you were so "lucky" not to be honored with the calls and mailings. I voted for Lasak, and would prefer Katz over Caban as a matter of public safety. The current Republican in the race is a joke and has no chance against either of them. If they offered their line to Judge Lasak, that would be another story.

JQ LLC said...

Last anon:

Actually and ironically, Rory went door to door in my area a week before he sold out to Katz and the Machine.

Anonymous said...

Actually and ironically, Rory went door to door in my area a week before he sold out to Katz and the Machine.

I would take Lancman over Katz or Caban, but Lasak's qualifications are head and shoulders above all of them. But if it's a Sophie's Choice between Katz and Caban, I will hold my nose and hope that Katz pulls it out, even if it means that the Queens Machine wins, because the pimps, hos, and drug dealers will all get free rides from Ms. Caban if she becomes the DA. I'm not ready to retire and move yet for another eight years. After that, the progressive a-holes can take over, do away with prisons and "racist police", and see what kind of neighborhoods you'll have. Actually, I think we kinda lived through what that was like before Giuliani became mayor.

Anonymous said...

because the pimps, hos, and drug dealers will all get free rides from Ms. Caban if she becomes the DA

sorry, i thought you meant Katz instead of Caban, as I thought were talking about the developers and party pimps that have cushy jobs.

Anonymous said...

Every democrat in queens was sent a mailing that contained a voter information card with you name address polling location and election district. Isn’t that a voter I’d card?

Anonymous said...

Every democrat in queens was sent a mailing that contained a voter information card with you name address polling location and election district. Isn’t that a voter I’d card?

Anonymous said...

Why did Tiffany Cabán run to Jackson Heights so she could be a candidate for Queens DA? Because no one in her home county of The Bronx who would back her to run for dog catcher let alone DA.
Go home Tiffany to where you probably still live- you just paid a welfare mother to use their address in Jackson

Auntie Daca said...

Happy 4th of July to all you dedicated Crappers! & Crappy, Jr. bless her crappy little heart-,where was the traditional 4th of July message to the citizen soldiers who keep the fires burning?

JQ LLC said...

@Auntie

The 4th of July message was yesterdays post. I will do one just for you.

Thank you for your blessing but I am not a her.

Anonymous said...

Curiously, the BOE hasn't published the results, yet: https://web.enrboenyc.us/C4.html

Auntie Daca said...

Crapper Jr bless your little gender specific heart.
Correction to my previous post - should have read- keep the home fires burning

Anonymous said...

Of course it is Russians! Where did the DSA get their money? What rich guy donates to socialists? DIdn't you hear Putin say communism is from his church? THe czars were always communist, with free education and healthcare and forbidding land ownership because it was Mother Mokosch. In 1342-50 Greek and Slav religious zeaotes seized Thessalonia, set up a commune and massacred the aristocracy in preparation for the Palamite Cantacuzene usurpation with Turk and Slav mercenaries.

Anonymous said...

Kweens Kounty Democratic Kommittee

Anonymous said...

The "Queens Machine" Is a shambles, a piss poor remnant of what it once was, as evidenced by the divided slate for the D.A. Election. Anyone who believes Meeks has the juice that Crowley had is a fool.Lasak made A Caban victory inevitable, only it didn't happen that way

JQ LLC said...

@Auntie Daca

I wasn't specific enough, I am a he/him not a she/her (because that is a thing now/today)

I know what you meant. I am an REO speedwagon fan also.

Anonymous said...

With regard to the photo of Crowley, does he always face Virginia when he salutes the flag?

JQ LLC said...

Last anon

That's very very observant and funny.

Anonymous said...

Blogger JQ LLC said...

Last anon re: Russian hack.

No the Russians didn't hack the election. Mueller didn't find anything after 2 years. I didn't like the result, but Trump won fair and square with the electoral college.
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Wrong JQ. Mueller didn't find collusion between Donald Trump and Russia, BUT Russia was found to have hacked into the 2016 election, that much has been proven. You surprise me since you are pretty good with facts

Anonymous said...

Anonymous

"BUT Russia was found to have hacked into the 2016 election, that much has been proven."

What does that even mean, "hacked into the election?"

Re: Katz vs Caban, I would choose the devil I do know vs the one I don't. I voted Lasak.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't that Obama's job? Trump was a private citizen in 2016.

kapimap said...

Bet you all the surprise votes came out of flushing/Jamaica. You know the Asians have Katz in their pockets.

Anonymous said...

What does that even mean, "hacked into the election?"
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Are you that uneducated and/or stupid. They interfered in our elections via technology. Amazing how so-called Americans do not care that a enemy (Russia) and a dictator (Putin) interfered in our elections and democracy. What has happened to patriotism and being a true America. Some of you have been totally brainwashed and this is exactly what Russian wants, to split our country in half and most of us are falling for it.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand all these thoughts of a conspiracy. I think if the Democratic machine was going to 'fix' the win for Katz they would have done by more than a 20 vote lead, which is now down to 16. This could go either way.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but I don't recall any proof that the Russians interfered with the elections in 2016. Never shown to the public. Never confirmed. Would they, the Russians, interfere if they could? Sure. Would the Chinese? Sure. Would we interfere with their political system if we could? Of course. The list of who's who in the offensive intelligence industries around the globe would probably appall the naive writers like kapimap. It's our job to do better at keeping all of them out. Stop whining, already!

Anonymous said...

Trump and China rigged it.
And that's because both are racist "colonists types" afraid of Hispanics who are going to beat them like a Pinata in 2020.

These rich old men need to give up the torch because this country and the wealth they have been hoarding will soon no longer belong to them.

Anonymous said...

Thoughts of conspiracy exist because it doesn't make sense how a thousand vote lead evaporated when a few thousand paper ballots were counted. Did Katz voters cast substantially more paper ballots for her than Caban voters did? If so why? Maybe it is legit but there needs to be an explanation how a thousand vote lead went poof when about 3500 paper ballots were counted.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but I don't recall any proof that the Russians interfered with the elections in 2016.

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Then you must have been living under a rock the entire time or did not read the redacted report, which is available to the public.

The redacted version of Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller's report revealed a years-long plot by the Russian government to interfere in the U.S. that investigators called "sweeping and systemic." Just look up the damn report and stop being so ignorant with your head in the sand. Amazing what assholes some of Crappers readers are.

Anonymous said...

"Are you that uneducated and/or stupid."
Smart enough not to vote for Crooked Hillary Clinton !
Landslide win coming in 2020! #TRUMP2020

Trump 2020 said...

Jeez get over it. The Russians didn't hack the election. That phrase means nothing.


Hillary lost cause she was a lousy candidate and didn't go to Wisconsin.

But relax you have twenty plus morons to choose from. And they all want open borders, reparations for slavery, free college, free healthcare for illegals, and they all have America. So good luck with that.

#landslide2020.

Anonymous said...

The thing I find most disturbing about the Katz- Caban issue is how the mainstream Democrats - like Queens Civic Congress - which are always complaining about their communities being destroyed, refused to accept the obvious - they are the chattel of the machine - Katz, Joe, Van B, Vallone, Liu, etc. When there is a chance to break out of it they run and hide.

That is where the problem is, not the machine, but the bright lites that support it because they can countenance nothing else. They can fathom only abuse and pointless bleating. That is sadly their 'normal.'

Meanwhile the Machine thinks hack retreads like Gianaris is the answer. It ain't.

Perhaps the fate of the Queens machine was sealed when someone said to the Manhattan preservationists that it matters little what they - and their reps - do for their community. The secret to taking back our city is to break the back of that massive block controlled by the Queens machine.

When that little point was weighed and considered, a new day broke for NYC. We are at the dawn of a new era.

georgetheatheist said...

Queens is the new concentration camp.

(It's so-o-o diverse, I can't breath, sleep, eat, or shower. Help!!!)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Trump 2020 said...
Jeez get over it. The Russians didn't hack the election. That phrase means nothing.
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Typical idiotic ill-informed Crapper reader. If I hacked into your computer and got your financial information and other vital information, then that phrase would mean something to you. What a complete ignorant uneducated and stupid individual you are. OF course the phrase means nothing to you, you are a dumb-ass. Some of the comments on this site just shows how bad America has become with ill-informed and dumb folks.

Anonymous said...

Soviet oil in Venezuela that supports Ocasio & co.

Anonymous said...

Billy Graham warned the Russians are Satanist Magog.
Ulysses Grant Organized the NYC anti-pogrom rally in 1882
yet the satanic Russians made the pogrom czars into saints.
They fund Ocasio and Caban using soviet Venezuela oil!
Regime change in Cuba and Venezuela NOW!

Anonymous said...

A thousand vote lead did NOT disappear.
Absentee ballots were added.
Absentees tend to be older voters.
Get off the drugs.

Anonymous said...

Bizarre comments. Your pairing of elected officials who are traditionally associated with the party organization with those of the left wing is off the wall. Also, I am sure some well- known Republicans who are leaders in the Queens Civic Congress are not happy with being called mainstream Democrats.

Anonymous said...

Look at how the Flushing soviets built a church in Cuba to funnel money to Ocasio and Caban:
https://www.thenationalherald.com/107190/documentary-spotlights-greek-orthodoxy-inn-cuba/

Anonymous said...

"The thing I find most disturbing about the Katz- Caban issue is how the mainstream Democrats - like Queens Civic Congress - which are always complaining about their communities being destroyed, refused to accept the obvious - they are the chattel of the machine - Katz, Joe, Van B, Vallone, Liu, etc. When there is a chance to break out of it they run and hide..."

Your entire post is an incoherent mess. What are you trying to say?

Anonymous said...

There is plenty of talk out there on how QCC is very upset with the direction the Democratic Party is going in Queens. They want the Old Guard, the Machine.

In other words, they want business as usual.

So, if that is the case, what is their point?

Anonymous said...

Queens Civic is not a civic as in the case with other parts of the city. They are men in their 90s who want the 80s. They play dress up - issue long elaborate essays that no one reads on the same issues over and over again.
The big thing on their calendar is the ‘Congressional” their annual meet-up with the politicians.
Come now. Just because a pol notices you and pats you on the head once a year is well, rather meaningless isn’t it? With Tony gone their days are numbered.

Anonymous said...

I was so excited for the legal bjs and sex services that would have been in Queens if Caban wouldve won. Melinda katz is just another bitch who will put me in jail just for paying for hookers. All the guys who voted for katz are bitches for once we couldve been in paradise but no you simps had to blow it all the way.

Anonymous said...

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JOE LAVEZZO: Basically, I'm a kind of shy guy. I don't -- have never in my entire life been very successful about seducing women. The only way I've been able to get sex is to pay for it.
JOHN STOSSEL: What you're doing is just immoral.
HUGH LOEBNER: It's a mutually satisfactory relationship. I'm not forcing her into it. I get something out of it. They get something out of it.