Sunday, March 6, 2011

A Call For Preservation

Editorial from the Queens Tribune:

The road to recovery for our borough’s artifacts must not stop at the RKO Keith’s in Flushing. The process to bring some portion of the aging relic back to life has stopped and started a handful of times before. The theater has been the victim of an unscrupulous developer, vandals, squatters and thieves.

While the rest of Flushing has been transformed in a Renaissance of growth and development, the RKO has sat and deteriorated. The palace at the end of the 7 train line will see a slight rebirth – not to the grandeur it once held, and to some, not to the esteem it deserves.

Private development has repurposed this iconic structure that is such a large part of the public domain, but the list of private and public sites in need of aid grows daily. Where is the fix for the crumbling New York State Pavilion in Flushing Meadows? Why is the Civic Virtue statue, bedeviled in this edition as misogynistic, in such disrepair? Why does St. Saviour’s Church sit in boxes in a warehouse?

We need a commitment to preserve our history, our artifacts, our borough icons. Yes, public funding needs to aid our children – our future, but it also needs to help preserve our past, encourage our arts and spur our aesthetic growth.

We call upon our elected officials to find a solution.

51 comments:

Joe said...

The city wants a tenant to sink their own money into it a only to have the crook unions and park workers attached to the deal.
Back in the 70's the mobbed up unions beat the hell out of the roller rink operator and drowned his dog.

Donald Trump wanted no part of it after reading the contract and all the demands the city drew up.
Who is going to spend $80 Million dollars only to have the city and union's tell them how to run it, how many useless pieces of sh*t need to be on the payroll ?
That park is a disgusting mess of garbage, vagrants, human feces. The Westinghouse time capsule is used as a toilet. The ground and benches are covered and stained with urine and feces all summer long till the end of August.
There is nothing wrong with the NYSP structurally -Not yet anyway. The red and white wall has settled into the mud, cracking but that wall, mezzanine and map will have to go in order to excavate and back-fill the plyle caps the tent support collums sit on (that's the stabilization process) it anyway.
I have been in the building with an engineer, after tuning some audio equipment in the new theater.
Another study is not needed. The city needs to listen to the engineers and quit stalling. If that structure fails in a bad way its gonna cost them more and perhaps a couple lives to demolish it.

Claire Shillman said...

Don't you DARE touch my theater!

Anonymous said...

LOL--pretty close
The actual words to the contractor building the theater were "Dont lay one finger on it"
They offered wanted to sandblast cleanup and paint around the main entry gate pro-bono.
Its still a rusting mess.

The city did let 2 volunteers repaint a section of retaining wall for that new roller thing so the press photos would look good.

Anonymous said...

Too bad the city hires scab illegal labor now to do what the unions did 10 years ago THE RIGHT WAY.

YOUR tax dollars at work, you Republican scumbag transplants.

GO BACK TO IDAHO OR WHEREVER YOU CRAWLED AWAY FROM.

Joe said...

The right way ?
More like there way or any way they wish.

Unions are theifs that jack up costs and make it hostile to operate.
I have seen union electrician sons and brother inlaws do such sloppy work they should be jailed along with the people that signed off on it.
A local IA house boss will call everybody off the job, walk off and hold you over a barrel if you insult them too.
....arogant pricks all of them.
I have had an IATSE boss come at me with a baseball bat in Madison Square Garden for moving a sound monitor into the correct position, the idiots couldn't read a stage plot they literally put the monitor in front of my guitar pedal board---Duh
Professionals my ass the only qualification is just being blood related. This was always the case working in NYC they run all the boards and screw up your sound & lights, spit in your food rider if you don't kiss their ass or tip them in advance.
Venues, company's, building owners should have the option to interview and hire their own people and not have these fat bums and strong arm racketeers forced on them

As far as Corona park goes all I seen is fat black union people driving carts with the cabs full of wrappers and coffee cups watching blue busses of Rikers Island inmates with brooms and bags doing all the work.

georgetheatheist said...

The Queens Tribune asks:

"Where is the fix for the crumbling New York State Pavilion in Flushing Meadows? Why is the Civic Virtue statue, bedeviled in this edition as misogynistic, in such disrepair? Why does St. Saviour’s Church sit in boxes in a warehouse? "

They forgot to ask:

Why does out newspaper promote prostitution by publishing whore ads in its classified section?

Anonymous said...

And don't forget we have a moron for a Borough President.

Helen Marshill said...

And don't forget we have a moron for a Borough President.

I resemble that remark!

ajlounyinjurylaw said...

If that structure fails in a bad way its gonna cost them more and perhaps a couple lives to demolish it. This is a concern that many may have. Time to make a decision on it's future.

Anonymous said...

Benepeepee

Babs said...

Unions are theifs that jack up costs and make it hostile to operate.
I have seen union electrician sons and brother inlaws do such sloppy work they should be jailed along with the people that signed off on it.

Joe supports the illegal Mexican workers I see more than the American workers.

Babs said...

"That park is a disgusting mess of garbage, vagrants, human feces."

I don't know about this area of Flushing Meadow - but, the park itself is beautiful - the Unisphere, the area near the tennis courts, the golfing area - can't get better -

you should get out more Joe.

Queens Crapper said...

Most states are "right to work" states. You'd see a lot more Americans working in NYC if we didn't have closed shops.

Also, most of FMCP is a dump. I featured it here in 2 photos series in 2007. Babs needs glasses.

Anonymous said...

In this borough "preservation" means preserving a boro hall hooked up developer's right to destroy our history.

Now Shenckler has a sudden attack of conscience...he's a preservationist?

Yeah....LOL!

Meanwhile the other Mike...NUSSBAUM...once refered to as Manes' bag man by the real press...is "representing" the Keith's new owner.

H-m-m-m-m! Waz up?

Anonymous said...

As it was conveyed to me:

Donald Manes once told a past member of the NYS Assembly,
"Queens has nothing but land and I intend to develop every bit of it".

And so it was that Manes earned his nickname among preservationists as the "borough's bulldozer"!

Afterward...picking up where her late boss left off...Claire Shulman continued the rape of Queens as Manes' ardent protege.

Examine her record and you will find that more deserving of landmark status sites were destroyed under her administration than under Manes.

Anonymous said...

City hall doesn't care about queens, period. Not enough out of town people want to see Queens, which is who they are catering too nowadays instead of ACTUAL new yorkers.

Anonymous said...

We call upon our elected officials to find a solution.



THAT IS FUNNY, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I ALMOST PEED

Babs said...

"Babs needs glasses."

when was the last time you visited the park - I go often BTW, cycling etc.

It is a great park -

also - do you really think that we would host the tennis open in a DUMP!? do you know how many celebrities, sports and otherwise plus the mega wealthy come to the park during that time? come on - even if you don't get out much - it's not common sense . . .

Queens Crapper said...

I go there quite often. It hasn't changed since 2007. The pavilion is falling apart, the fountain of the planets is a filthy disgrace, actually, none of the fountains work, the pavement is broken in many areas and there are several missing lampposts. And that's just the major damage.

Anonymous said...

Babs seems to have low standards like many Queens people. That's part of the reason why the park looks that way.

Anonymous said...

Try using the bathrooms there. Disgusting!

Queens Crapper said...

Here's the beginning of my 8 part series.

Cav said...

There was a porposal to convert the pavilion to an air&space museum but Estelle Cooper didn't think much of the idea. The concept was posted over at the NYWF64:

http://www.nywf64.com/savenys01.2.html

The views of the proposed museum looked really cool.

Joe said...

Oh I get it now.
Babs visits that park to smooze with the assholes during the US Open.
Take a look at that park the remaining 50 weeks a year Babs.

Union labor.
I worked in entertainment
I see no reason to need 8 IASTE guy's 120 man hours @ $52hr (12 hour day) to do the job of 2.
For example this is what it takes to bring a small guitar amp into a 3200 seat theater like The Beacon.

Guy 1 drops it at the curb line
Guy 2 carry's curb-line to stage edge
Guy 3 lifts, places on stage
Guy 4 plugs in its cable
Guy 5 mixes and controls the sound out of it.
3 bosses to watch.
Now add: 8 more loaders, 2 FOH, 6 Lighting operators, Backline tech, 4 electricians, ticket takers, bathroom attendants.

These people cost more $$$ then the people bringing you the entertainment. They run unchecked and have all the competition locked out.

An average NY family can no longer afford a $200 a seat Rockefeller Christmas show, Spiderman, Jersey Boys etc due unions.
It now costs near or over $100 to see a concert at the Garden or CitiField.

This is one main reason no investor will touch the NYS Pavilion and many other aging theaters. They cant make a profit in Queens due the unions. To many strings attached

Helen Marshill said...

City hall doesn't care about queens, period.

That's not true. I have several queens on my staff. And some have periods!!!

Blabs said...

When will you people learn???

IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Schmucks!

georgetheatheist said...

Thanks, Crapper, for the anthology of the FMCP series from - yoicks! - 4years ago! Tempus does indeed fugit.

Check out my early commentary on the Tribune whore ads in series part 5.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Babs said...

"Oh I get it now.
Babs visits that park to smooze with the assholes during the US Open.
Take a look at that park the remaining 50 weeks a year Babs."

Has anyone in this particular forum noticed that little addition right nearby . . .CITIFIELD . . . ? the name ring a bell to anyone? . . . in fact, it's soooooo close that one can park in the park's various lots and walk across the bridge to the game?

I thank you for linking your past forum pics of the park, but they were taken a few years ago - changes have been made and the park - on a nice day - is frequented by many.

I love my Queens' parks - Flushing Meadows being one of them. I bike ride there - play pitch n' putt, walk, etc. TRY IT - YOU'LL LIKE IT.

Also - "Joe" I know the union you are referring to, and I unfortunately have to agree with you on this. THEY and unions like them, give unions a bad name. BUT, not all are the same.

Babs said...

"When will you people learn???

IT'S ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Schmucks!"

Oddly enough YOU turn every post I'm in into a thread about me.
You ALWAYS - no matter what the conversation - talk about ME!

You must be in love with me or something . . .

Queens Crapper said...

The park is more than the golf course and tennis center. And it looks like hell.

Anonymous said...

You must be in love with me or something . . .

I'm positive I speak for the majority when I ask, ever hear of the word loathe? Some people (like you) just can't take a hint! Here's $100. Go buy yourself a clue.

Dee Truth said...

Oddly enough YOU turn every post I'm in into a thread about me.
You ALWAYS - no matter what the conversation - talk about ME!

I agree with the previous poster, YOU turn the posts into threads about YOU!!! Don't go away mad. Just GO AWAY!

Blabs said...

See? Still about ME!

Joe said...

Babs: CITIFIELD SUCKS.
I cant get into the junkyards and have my one cold street beer wile I get my Classic cars worked on all dam summer.
The cops give tickets and block off all the triangles entry streets, traffic is hell.

I can believe 45,000 jackasses actually pay $$ to watch the Mets loose must all be Bloomberg voters

Babs said...

"I'm positive I speak for the majority when I ask, ever hear of the word loathe? Some people (like you) just can't take a hint! Here's $100. Go buy yourself a clue."

The "majority"? - HAHHAHAHAH!! you can't possibly believe that I don't know that you have a million handpuppets a.k.a. pseudonyms in here.

It's too bad you can't stand it when someone disagrees with you.

I'm way smarter than you - get over it id.

Blabs said...

See? STILL about ME!

Babs said...

"Babs: CITIFIELD SUCKS."

The POINT Joe is that Flushing Meadow Park has been cleaned up to make CITIFIELD more attractive to fans and to also welcome tennis fans and enthusiates.

YOU may not like Citifield - but obviously other people do.

babs said...

"The park is more than the golf course and tennis center. And it looks like hell."

no it doesn't.

Anonymous said...

"The POINT Joe is that Flushing Meadow Park has been cleaned up to make CITIFIELD more attractive to fans and to also welcome tennis fans and enthusiates."

It hasn't been cleaned up, and it would be unacceptable to do so just in the areas attractive to sports fans and leaving the parts that residents use most often looking like shit.

Blabs said...

See? STILL about ME!

Blabs said...

BTW---IT WILL ALWAYS ABOUT ME!

B said...

You left out the "BE" but you'll always be the "b" word to me, Blabs.

Anonymous said...

"It hasn't been cleaned up, and it would be unacceptable to do so just in the areas attractive to sports fans and leaving the parts that residents use most often looking like shit."

The park is beautiful.

Anonymous said...

The park is beautiful.

How true...until you remove your head from your butt and see reality the way others do.

Josephine said...

"How true...until you remove your head from your butt and see reality the way others do."

how about instead you get your big fat butt away from the computer and DO something for a change - and in ANY park.

Anonymous said...

how about instead you get your big fat butt away from the computer and DO something for a change - and in ANY park.

And exactly what have you done lately, moron? Hmmmm....

Didn't think so! Still got your head up your ass, I see. You must like stench. No wonder the parks are in such bad shape.

Ale E. Yen said...

Still got your head up your ass, I see.

Actually, some people enjoy their anal probes.

Bart said...

I go frequently to the gym there - you can pay 10x as much and not get something as nice as this.

It's a great park for many reasons.

Anonymous said...

Great memories of that building in the pic - saw Led Zeppelin there in the late 60s. Hung out by the unisphere with about 1,000+ others at night in the summer from all over the boros - great times!

Queens Crapper said...

This post is about PRESERVATION, people. Focus, please.

georgetheatheist said...

Crapper, if they focused, it wouldn't be Queens Crap.

Ey-ey-ey-ey-ey
Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo
USA-USA-USA

Gimme a "Q", Gimme a "U"