From the Daily News:Glossy cards emblazoned with graphic images of scantily clad or nude women may soon become a thing of the past in western Queens.
The state legislature recently took aim at prostitution by making the distribution of "chica" cards a crime punishable by fines and jail time. Gov. Cuomo is expected to sign the bill into law as early as this week.
The cards have phone numbers to escort agencies and are mostly handed out to men walking along Roosevelt Ave. in Jackson Heights.
But instead of winding up in their pockets, many of the X-rated cards are tossed onto the street and wind up in the hands of curious children.
41 comments:
What about the hotel room window they built 5 feet from my son's bedroom window in Dutch Kills?
Pregnant por Charlie? Huh? That doesn't sound very thexy. Unfortunately, I think it's called free speech. Dutch Kills? Along Newtown Creek-- the second worst superfund site in the country? That's an industrial area. Why would you move there? Get the hell out of there, dude.
as if the women are white, like on that card. usually just some 4'6" round mestizo
Thanks for the sanctuary city.
You describe them as X-rated cards, but you only show at best a PG rated card. Where are these X-rated cards you speak of?
And if anyone really thinks they are protecting kids from nudity or scantily clad women by banning these they are pretty naive.
I have featured the X-rated cards on the blog previously. There is nothing wrong with protecting children from pornography while they're on their way to and from school.
re:pornography /schoolchidren, the local library computers are not all filtered to stop it.
what is the law on filtering it from the library computers /internet that everyone in the country that has a telephone pays for.
check "universal connection" on your phone bill.
multiply the monthly cost X12 = your yearly charge.
multiply your yearly cost X 300,000,000. american clients = total income to internet companies. for ONE YEAR.
Al Gore and Bill Clinton got Att/ Verizon to bill you,without your request for this service. they then got gigantic campaign contributions from the internet companies.
taxation without representation ?????
what is the law on filtering it from the library computers /internet that everyone in the country that has a telephone pays for.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/porn_ok_at_city_libraries_hSqZExlZstWZIzeNX47VCM
What's next, outlawing Victoria's Secret catalogs?
Or Hustler? cause we use to find those in the trash as kids also.
Anon No. 8 -
The library computers are set to give you the option of filtering in the adult rooms. They filter automatically in the childrens' section.
Do you have a problem with that?
How about the fact that these cards are advertising something that is illegal?
There doesn't seem to be any mention of services offered, so there is nothing illegal unless you call and make a deal.
Advertising something that is illegal is in itself illegal. Just ask Google.
Right, where do you see anything illegal advertised? Does the ad mention sex, prostitution, or money?
What about those immigrant bars where Mexicans pay $5 to dance with women and are perfectly legal. This card COULD be advertising that. We all know what it is, but if they don't say what they are offering how can the law fill in the blanks and say it is illegal?
It's the same principle behind prostitution busts. The cops cant just walk up to a street walker and arrest her for prostitution; services in exchange for tender need to be offered first.
There have been plenty of prostitution busts and sex trafficking rings broken after following the leads on these cards. What the bill did was make it illegal to distribute obscene material in public.
What the bill did was make it illegal to distribute obscene material in public.
Yes, but nothing in the card pictured is obscene.
Here is the text of the actual bill.
Enjoy.
OBSCENE MATERIAL,
AS SUCH TERMS ARE DEFINED BY SUBDIVISIONS ONE AND TWO OF SECTION 235.00
OF THIS TITLE,
How do I find that?
Also, thanks for the link to the actual bill.
Google section 235.00, it comes right up.
This bill will specifically add the distribution of obscene material
or material that depicts nudity to more than 10 people in a public
place with the intent to advance or profit from prostitution to the
current penal law which prohibits the promotion of prostitution in
the fourth degree.
How do you prove they are actually promoting prostitution unless you effect arrests for prostitution from said cards?
To put it another way, how do you enforce this law without a prostitution sting? Scantily clad women are used to advertise everything from clothing to beer to night clubs. Wouldn't a defendant simply claim they were advertising a dance club or sexy maid service, or anything other than prostitution? And how do you name a defendant based on a phone number? I mean I know it can be done, but it can't be too hard to get a phone number set up under an alias, or under someones name who has left the country.
Time will tell. In the meantime, the article says most have changed the pictures to those of fruits. That's already an improvement.
1. "Obscene." Any material or performance is "obscene" if (a) the
average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find
that considered as a whole, its predominant appeal is to the prurient
interest in sex, and (b) it depicts or describes in a patently offensive
manner, actual or simulated: sexual intercourse, criminal sexual act,
sexual bestiality, masturbation, sadism, masochism, excretion or lewd
exhibition of the genitals, and (c) considered as a whole, it lacks
serious literary, artistic, political, and scientific value. Predominant
appeal shall be judged with reference to ordinary adults unless it
appears from the character of the material or the circumstances of its
dissemination to be designed for children or other specially susceptible
audience.
I'm not sure if those pictures would qualify as "obscene". You see women wearing less walking down the beach or on the street, on billboards for clothing companies, or in your typical V.S. catalog in your mailbox.
The obscene ones are not pictured for obvious reasons. Thank you for participating in this discussion.
The obscene ones are not pictured for obvious reasons.
Point taken. Like any kind of illegal activity, people will just adjust to skirt the law. So there just might be more bikini pics than nudie pics in those ads. I doubt those ads will disappear anymore than those trucks on Grand Ave have disappeared.
Thanks for entertaining the discussion.
Prostitution, and drugs for that matter, will never go away. As a society we should start thinking about more effective ways of dealing with these issues than the continuous and expensive cat and mouse game that law enforcement plays.
And who would enforce this? The ever-shrinking police department have more pressing concerns to address, like the regular stabbings around Roosevelt Avenue.
the two libraries in our area in Bayside have no wall separating the adult from the children's computers .
Good!
Now how about getting rid of those card shoving..."massagee, masssagee, massagee" girls...on the already overcrowded corner of Roosevelt & Main in putrid downtown Floo-shing?
And who would enforce this? The ever-shrinking police department have more pressing concerns to address, like the regular stabbings around Roosevelt Avenue.
Why is a supercilious nut job arguing this issue with a bunch of anonymous people on a blog?
Shouldn't your "beef" be with Jose Peralta and Francisco Moya?
Get a life dude!
Ironically, from what I hear, those massagee massagee places on Main St actually only give massagee. They are apparently not happy ending places contrary to popular belief.
"Why is a supercilious nut job arguing this issue with a bunch of anonymous people on a blog?"
Applies to everybody on every blogg on the internet-me too.
chicas is good thing all these archie bunkers making big deal over nothing.
When a man wants quick professional service he should be able to buy. Chickas out of work make more problem when they steal and sell drugs to pay rent
You would think the Chica cards could lead the police to investigate and close down illegal sex business and illegal workers.
What about those immigrant bars where Mexicans pay $5 to dance with women and are perfectly legal.
Immigrant bars - that a new term! I'll give you a replacement term - how about illegal bars.
Spanish whores in Latin nabes and Chinese whores in Asian nabes....so what's new?
$5 buys a client a BJ on College Point B'lvd. in Flushing.
So if those chicas disappear a toothless Oriental can provide a happy ending for all.
Just back from Ridgewood, these "Chicka" and Pawn shop flyers are going strong on Myrtle& Seneca ave.
Has anybody seen the new parking scam ?
You park then walk a good 1/2 block to buy a "permit" from these ATM like machines. You then walk back (hopefully before your ticketed) and display the receipt & bar code in the windshield.
I never seen so many brownies are walking around scanning reg & inspection stickers along with the parking permits.
I headed over to Circos in Bushwick to pick up some Biscotti what a mess there must have been over 100 of Bloombergs cops guarding gays having this wild fiesta in the north side of Knickerbocker park, the spanish music easily exceeded 110 dB from a block away.
more "Chicka" handbills, freaky unshaven dirty hipsters with cheap guitar case baclpacks.
One big piss in the street.
Perhaps Queens isn't worth saving
On a good note best Pizza around at Dekalb & Knickerbocker at my old uncle Joes (Now Tonys)
Anon No. 27: A lot of libaries throughout this city are only one big room. It's the type of card that you have that gives you access to certain computers and not to others. Children have one type of card and adults have another.
PROTECTING CHILDREN, HA !
Your state has just passed queer marriage, Cuomo the home cares about the children after he passes an abomination to God law so 2 guys can dick each other up the ass and rub on each other during parades which cuomo the son of a piece of shit brings his daughters to attend. And Paladino was nuts because he was moral and knew how to bring the businesses and revenue back to ny. I remember a time when you can smoke cigars in the park and the beach(open air) was normal and two men fucking each other up the ass was wrong. Only in the communist socialist state of new york. And you wonder why the middle class has left along with business and the jobs. we have no revenue mayor bloomturd asks lol. Good Luck NY You now join the ranks of california and massachusetts. No one takes you seriously at all and you are a laughing stock. Thank the Lord I moved to Dixie Land
Hey Anon:
Dixie Land is worse !!!
I was a musician and was stuck 2 weeks in that hell. Those people hate anyone from east of the Delaware river
Talk about one big multicultural piss in the street. 1/2 those Gump & Bubba heads don't know who there real brothers, fathers and sisters are !
Single white & black welfare mom's in plastic shoes pushing black baby's in strollers on every corner
Now add the biggest fag, tranny, welfare, incestuous and drug addict population in the United States TALK ABOUT HELL FORGET ABOUT IT !!
Id move to Mexico long before moving to Louisiana or anyplace in Dixieland...NO THANKS !!
-Joe
This situation is nothing new. Depending on the decade, this sale of prostitution has been done in different manners. At our time now is simply left on our car windshield and building lobbies, our schools parks,in the subways, etc. You get the picture. Have you been to Flushing main Street? There is someone on every corner handing out cards and MASSAGE SERVICES. We know these are not massage parlors! Take a look at all Newspapers and Local Community Newspapers, They are Legally selling prostitution! Chinese newspapers are full of prostitution displays. Us non-asians dont get involve obviously cause we cant read Chinese. I have a chinese newspapers cutting blattently advertising prostitution in my building in Apt. #1A. There are rummors in the neighborhood that the building next to me are using children for prostitution. I advised the building superintendent to keep his eyes open if not his ears. So, this article is not just about Jackson Heights. Every neighborhood has it's trash and white trailer trash. Solution is for us without prejudice, become active , get off your couch and do something about it. This is Carmen Mosca and I have used the Media to solve problems in my neighborhood like Parking Tickets and upgrading street signs. VIsit my Blog to read the final solution to the "Parking Conundrum in Flushing" @ whatsonyourmind-carmen.blogspot.com
Anon No. 38:
"Cuomo the home?" You'll fit in really well with the illiterate rednecks down there.
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