Sunday, July 5, 2009

Skyview Parc violates FAA height restrictions

From the Times Ledger:

Muss Development also sought a variance from the board on its massive Sky View Parc development in Flushing. Three of the projects’ six residential towers are already built, but the developer now needs a variance from the city Board of Standards and Appeals because the 14-story buildings pierce height restrictions set by the Federal Aviation Administration to protect flight paths of aircraft entering and leaving LaGuardia Airport.

Jerald Johnson, an attorney for Muss, presented a letter in which the FAA approved the buildings’ height, but another letter, from the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, said the FAA had rescinded its decision.

“I’m at a loss here,” Apelian said. “A lot of phone calls have been made about this and we still don’t have any resolution.”

“I’m a little bit at a loss as well,” Johnson said. “No one has contacted us to tell us our FAA ruling is in error.”

In the end, the board approved the variance with a request that the confusion be ironed out before the BSA rules on it next month.

“It’s not like this is waiting for an application to be approved,” Apelian said. “The buildings are built. So either it’s good or it isn’t good. There’s not really a lot we as a board can do.”


How did the DOB approve these buildings in the first place if there is a height limit in that area?

18 comments:

Alan said...

Hey Crappy,
Could you please post a map with this article showing the location of the buildings and their proximity to the runway? I think that would be very useful. Thank you and Happy Independence Day!

Anonymous said...

How? You ask HOW the DOB could approve something. Come now, Crappy.....

How indeed!!!

Anonymous said...

Duh!!?!?!!?!? Are the buildings that were built too tall? Are more to come?
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“I’m at a loss here,” Apelian said. “A lot of phone calls have been made about this and we still don’t have any resolution.”

“I’m a little bit at a loss as well,” Johnson said. “No one has contacted us to tell us our FAA ruling is in error.”

In the end, the board approved the variance with a request that the confusion be ironed out before the BSA rules on it next month.
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Double Duh!!!

Anonymous said...

Follow the buck Chuck is maybe at a loss on the final kickback payment that Muss owes him for his support of their project!

CB#7 is one of the most spineless community boards in NYC...
AKA...the jellyfish board!

If you want something built just "consult" with Chuck.

He's really running CB#7 not its seedy chair Gene Kelty.

And Marilyn is just along for the ride...her $80,000 yearly gross plus any presents from developers friends she can grab...eh Wellington?

Anonymous said...

BRING IN THE FEDS!

SINGH said...

HATERS... ALWAYS JELOUS WHEN SOME IS MAKING MONEY I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY IS THERE A NEED FOR HIGHT RESTRICTIONS? DONT TELL ME ITS BECAUSE THE CITY WILL LOOK NICER... BULL CLEAN UP THE STREETS FIRST THEN WORRY ABOUT HIGHT RESTRICTIONS

Alan said...

SINGH-

(Or is it Evan?). The reason for height restrictions for this property is that it sits very close to the end of a runway at LaGuardia. The photo does not do the structure's height justice. Here is a better look:

http://www.muss.com/graphics/news/may2005pic.jpg

Why come here and call us haters when we are voicing very serious safety concerns? Have you ever waited for a bus on Main Street in Flushing and watched the jets make their way over to LaGuardia? The planes are so low that you can actually wave to the passengers! Think about this from the perspective of a pilot who is landing at one of the most congested airfields in the United States while navigating through thick clouds and fog!

Do you know why you don't understand the need for height restrictions? Because you have the reading skills of a newborn child. As far as your point regarding the economics of such a project, please explain why the city is bending over backward to give tax breaks and other "favors" in order to move these projects forward while the entire infrastructure of Flushing is antiquated and needs to be upgraded.

Another factor is the smell from the Flushing River. Apparently, that big waste tank is not making a great difference in the odor factor during low tide. Shouldn't that be cleaned up before people take up residency in a housing complex just yards from the river's banks? Let's not even consider the fact that the #7 Subway line is already overcrowded and the thousands of additional units now under construction here and elsewhere in north Queens is making commuting a nightmare.

Before you spew (in all caps) your hatred for this website and its contributors, why don't you pull your head out of your ass and do some research and think before you write??? Another troll, Crappy. Apparently you are raising some eyebrows. You rule and Singh's a fool!

Anonymous said...

Hey Singh,

Would it hurt to use appropriate spelling, grammar, and punctuations marks? Dumbass!

Anonymous said...

Maybe Muss is exporting troll jobs to India? It would figure.

Queens Crapper said...

Here are the height restrictions.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the map, Crapper. I see that this project falls in the darker shaded area and the fact that the buildings are already standing makes no logical sense. Will a waiver absolve the developer, the city, the FAA, the Port Authority, and any other party responsible when a jet veers just a few feet off course and clips a building and causes a disaster that will surely result in many deaths? What happens if a jet is caught in a wind sheer or downdraft as it is landing or taking off? Those building are really close! What is the price of a human life going for these days? Maybe we should ask Chuck or Gene or are they too busy counting their bounty as they are laughing all the way to the bank???

Anonymous said...

.......how was shea stadiUm ever erected ?
never mind this bs.

Anonymous said...

The only bs here is your comment. Shea was not nearly as tall and not in the amsl as represented by the shaded area on the map that the Crapper was kind enough to provide. Also, Shea was designed in the early '60's when the air traffic was not as congested as it is now. I am surprised that you didn't mention CitiField.

If you don't like the comments on this blog, then why don't you go somewhere else? Don't go away mad. Just go away!!!

Building on Your Head Party said...

We agree with Singh and look forward to the exciting views from these buildings as Jets pull off breaktaking high speed manuouvers inches from the windows.

Why visit Atlantic City to gamble?

Anonymous said...

Anyone know any pilots who fly in and out of LGA? Do they comment on the dangers of obstructions near the end of the runway?

By the way, there are more residential towers being proposed for the downtown Flushing area. This seems to be a disaster waiting to happen, especially on days with low ceilings and poor visibility. Who is looking out for the welfare of the people who live in this area?

Are the people spending tons of money on these residential units being told of all the pitfalls of the area such as bad smells, traffic congestion, and the added bonus of living underneath a very actice flight path?

Anonymous said...

A simple solution would be to just shut the damn airport and build and build until there is no room to breathe. At least Bloomie's buddies will be happy. Just think...every residential property will be self-contained and no one will need to (or be allowed to) leave the premises. Therefore, no one will need airports. It's coming to that now, isn't it? No one is paying attention.

Anonymous said...

Because park spelled backwards = crap!

Anonymous said...

The Muss folks..in error???
These are the same folks that hire felons as project managers...