A new 481 seat High School is being planned for 30-48 Linden Place. This is where the Board of Education building now stands. The Mitchell-Linden Civic Association has already notified our legislators that this location is absolutely unacceptable for the following reasons: Directly across the street is a car wash, and two hotels. It is adjacent to the Whitestone Bowling Alley and only ½ block from an early child hood school. Within one to three blocks are two Nursery schools, two Senior Centers, and P.S. 214. This is the most congested and grid locked location in our entire community. It is also the pathway to the Pathmark Shopping Center.
I'm still trying to figure out why, since the birth rate has been low for quite some time, do we need a school built on every other block?
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Did you sign this petition crappy? I thought you wanted more schools to relieve crowding?
I seriously have to question "overcrowding" these days. Most schools were actually built to handle a capacity far larger than the number of kids that attend. Plus, over the past 10 years, people stopped having kids, which means by the time any new schools are built, there will be a lot of empty space in the ones we have now. So why are we in a building frenzy?
The UFT and SCA want more schools to justify their existences. That's why.
Then why do schools still use trailers? City is adding people fast, does that make up for fewer locals having babies?
"Then why do schools still use trailers?"
Because the UFT insists on smaller class size so they can hire more teachers.
Here's an example: PS49 opened with about 950 seats in the 1930s. A few years ago, an addition was placed to allow for 400 more kids. Total now? 1100. The math doesn't add up and it's considered "overcrowded".
Teachers have a great racket. Oh, they complain enough, but they retire with fat pensions, get two months off.
In the 1950s, for example, my uncle taught wood shop. He did have a PHD in something, thanks to the GI bill of rights as a WWII returning veteran, so he was on a top salary step.
He was pulling down $25,000 a year in retirement pay in 1966. That was a bundle then. You could have paid cash for a house with it.
He also worked summers at a camp. More money was earned. Med benefits were free.
As a "White" man teaching in Harkem, things were not that easy.
That's a no brainer. It's a shirt location.
One suggestion for adaptive reuse of the historic RKO Keith's Flushing theatre was to build above it a magnet school for the performing arts. The theatre would remain as part of the school. Maybe that was a better idea. It was sure a better location for a school.
So why was Flushing High School closed and carved up into various "academies"?
That is city owned property. Landmarked or not ,NYC is exempt from the landmarks law if they decide to tear the old building down. Adhering to that law is purely discretionary, when it comes to city owned properties.
That is a very juicy location for building. Tearing down the old Flushing High School and building a mega development would make NYC a fortune if they sold it.
And what about the YMCA across the street?
If they move into Flushing Commons, their property is worth millions!
Linden Street looks like a third world ghetto across from the proposed school. There will be no opposition from the locals and the school will be built there I sure of it.
I don't get it. The community is saying loudly and clearly that they don't want more school capacity, and some posters here construe that as the UFT's fault that it is? Better find that tinfoil hat...
The "local people" are not having more kids.....the children of illegal immigrants and newly arrived legal immigrants are the reason. Many of the young children can't speak English. I see what I call ""bobsled kids" - mothers pushing a single stroller with 3 kids inside -.picking up their school age children at schools.......these people are not "local".
"I don't get it. The community is saying loudly and clearly that they don't want more school capacity, and some posters here construe that as the UFT's fault that it is? Better find that tinfoil hat..."
No one said that at all. Commenter must be the proud product of a public school.
Comments #3, 5, and 6 are obviously trying to hijack this into another teacher union bashing session.
We have fewer, not more kids in the city than we did decades ago. We don't need more schools.
Anonymous said...
Linden Street looks like a third world ghetto across from the proposed school. There will be no opposition from the locals and the school will be built there I sure of it.
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First of all, it's Linden Place and NOT Linden Street!!! Secondly, that's a terrible location for a school and the post is about the community opposing using this site! Reading comprehension's a challenge for you, isn't it???
Linden Place is a major access point to and from the Whitestone Expressway. Try driving on that stretch of the road during rush hours, which also coincide with school hours. Anyone ever tell you to think before you post?
DiBlasio wants 80,000 new low income housing units built in 10 years
Do the Math!! The 3rd world is moving to New York
They have to build a school for all of china to move into the new flushing commons project that is going up....don't you know this? These asians are popping out kids faster than the illegals these days. I see them all the time in shitty flushing.
Hillary said if elected President she will dwarf Obamas amnesty with her open border policy
Gett Readdyyyyyy for an illegal surge of uneducated voters with rights and priority representation
Also, P. S. 242 the very next block, on 31 Rd and 137th Street.
Do any of you know what you are talking about? Queens schools are insanely over crowded. We need lots more schools, period.
Anonymous said...
"Do any of you know what you are talking about? Queens schools are insanely over crowded. We need lots more schools, period."
Do you know what you're talking about? This post is about a specific location! It's a location that would be wrong for many reasons. Stay focused!!!
I constantly hear the schools are overcrowded. Is it possible they're not? Is that poster right about ps49? That would be quite a successful lie by the parents, teachers and city if so. Fascinating.
Here's an example: PS49 opened with about 950 seats in the 1930s. A few years ago, an addition was placed to allow for 400 more kids. Total now? 1100. The math doesn't add up and it's considered "overcrowded".
Okay, but did the school actually function with 1350 kids, or was that just the claimed capacity? A number of times on this forum people suggest that in the old days, kids were in bigger classes. Can anyone actually point to historical data on this post desegregation?
They never claimed it would hold 1350 kids. They said the addition would add 400 seats. I would like to know what happened to the previously reported capacity because it apparently shrunk. If you cave in to the teachers' union that screams that smaller classes are required then you are going to end up with wasted space and need a bigger building. It's funny, but when the classrooms held 40 or more, kids came out smarter than they do now.
Terrible location for a school, manufacturing, businesses, third world fedder apartments and a service road to a highway nearby!
I have a copy of an industrial hygienist's report about that Linden Place building. It is seriously under ventilated, allowing threshold toxic levels of CO2 to accumulate. There is no parking around there except for the Pathmark shopping center, and you can't really park there for the day. The surrounding neighborhood is filthy and disgusting, and includes an Asian hot sheets motel. Great place for a school! Look for headaches, dizziness, and sleepiness in the poor kids enrolled there, courtesy of the CO2 levels.
In the 50's and 60's when there was 40-50 kids in a class the teachers demanded respect and received it ( most of the time). With the breakdown of discipline this has now become impossible. The schools need more room for more classes with smaller number of students. That and illegals don't get counted in the Census so there are more children showing up at schools then the neighborhood allegedly has .
illegals don't get counted in the Census
NOT TRUE!!!
Illegals do not get counted in Census because the Census taker is lied to about the number of people living at a given address. Owners of illegal apartments deny they exist and most illegal aliens are afraid to fill out government forms. This is why the numbers are NOT TRUE!!!
Please don't name this one after Leonard Stavisky
Illegals DO get counted in the census, which is why there are fewer people voting in districts with lots of illegals, making it cheaper to run.
Why? Because Corona-Elmhurst is busting at the seams and so will Flushing eventually.
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