Thursday, February 11, 2010

How many more cases like this are out there?

From WNYC:

As the city and state continue to negotiate, Luis Cruz will continue to check the mail each month in search of a receipt that says his rent has been paid. So far he’s good through February. But he says, “At any moment there could be a knock on the door and someone could say DHS is no longer paying your rent. Are you going to pay it yourself or leave.”

Cruz’s family would not be able to pay the rent on their own. The family came from Puerto Rico and went straight into a city shelter. The family says they originally came to New York in search of medical care. Cruz says doctors in Puerto Rico never controlled his wife's diabetes and now she is blind, suffers from arthritis, and depression and requires his 24 hour care.

He opens a refrigerator full of insulin. Cruz says his 8-year-old daughter is also mentally ill. The family survives off $1,300 a month in disability payments. Last year about 1,600 families with a disabled family member left the shelter system. Cruz says as for his family, they hope to never have to go back.


I suppose this piece was supposed to make me feel sorry for these folks. Nice try, but after I paid my tax bill this month, that ain't happening.

Why in the hell do we not have a residency requirement for these benefits? The world can darken our doorstep and beg for our money, and we New York State taxpayers, like the jackasses we are, pay for it. Our taxes go up year after year because our elected officials have never met a welfare case they don't fall in love with, no matter where they come from. All because of the tweeding.

Pass a law that you have to reside in NYC and state and pay taxes here for 5 years in order to get benefits from us. There's a residency requirement to get a freaking library card but none to live off taxpayer money. How backwards is that?

Additional question: Is the US destined to become a refugee camp?

Answer: We already are!

97 comments:

Joe said...

Doctors cant control her diabetes because she's over 300 pounds.
UNITED STATES BOOTDELLO !

Anonymous said...

Last time I checked, Puerto Rico was part of the United States making members of this family CITIZENS and taxpayers. If they are receiving disability benefits, it is most likely Supplemental Security Income, which is a federal benefit with a small amount (no more than $86 per month) added by NYS. To be eligible for SSI you must be a citizen or legal permanent resident who has a 10 year work history in the US. And yes you should feel sorry for them, because anyone, including you, can get sick, through no fault of their own and be in a similar situation. I have seen it many times and it is not easy to watch. Most Americans are just one paycheck away from poverty.

Queens Crapper said...

I certainly didn't question their citizenship. I questioned their residency as NYS taxpayers. But thanks for offering me an education. Thanks also for the lame "it could be you" speech which does nothing to address or solve this dilemma.

They came to NYC and went straight into the homeless shelter system, which we pay for. They also must receive food stamps which we pay for. They are 100% living off NYS taxpayers.

See the previous article on this:

As middle-class residents flee because of high taxes, the poor and disabled look to New York to access some of the best taxpayer-funded social services in the nation.

The state and city have long been what some economists call a "welfare magnet." In particular, New York City offers better housing and Medicaid options than much of the rest of the country.


The question is: How stupid are we?

Anonymous said...

Food stamps is also a federal program, not NYS. And again, as US citizens they paid income taxes, and in NYS they are paying sales tax on everything they buy.

Anonymous said...

And they don't pay new york city income tax or new york state income tax, do they? Who do you think they are living off? US, morons!

Anonymous said...

"Food stamps is also a federal program, not NYS. And again, as US citizens they paid income taxes, and in NYS they are paying sales tax on everything they buy."

Federal program = we STILL pay for it. They do not pay income taxes because their income is too low. And as for sales taxes, how much buying power can they have? If they were living in Puerto Rico at least they would get support from their extended families instead of off us.

Anonymous said...

NYC = world's welfare magnet.

Anonymous said...

Chances are it wasn't the doctors in Puerto Rico who failed to control this woman's diabetes. You have to watch your diet, check your sugar regularly, exercise, keep your weight in check and keep up your medical appointments. This is too much for a lot of people.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they've ever worked a day in their lives? How many people work in pain every day?

Anonymous said...

Great news...They're so poor that they qualify for 100% taxpayer funded home care! So now pop can go to work. Wait, if he does that, they might lose that benefit. Better to stay home and whine to the news radio station instead.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention we must be paying for WAAAY overpriced special ed for the mental kid.

Anonymous said...

NYC taxpayers fund DHS. It's a city agency.

Anonymous said...

It stands to reason that the "federal" dollars pouring into federal programs in NYC are paid by the taxpayers of NYC and state. Have you never filled out a 1040? Most of your income tax is to the Feds, not the state or city.

Anonymous said...

We could put limits on who gets these benefits. But that would hamper the tweeding efforts of the Machine.

primadonna said...

Everyone deserves a chance at a better life.
What I object to is lifetime welfare.
Getting temporary public assistance to get people on their feet is fine so long as it doesn't turn into benefits for life.

That's where welfare has gone so horribly wrong and people are so resentful. Perfectly young and healthy people who are able to work, don't.
That's why women will have lots of kids, ones they may not want and can't care for, to get better benefits. This is wrong! I say cut off the benefits after one kid. You'll see how fast they'll be taking birth control pills.

Anonymous said...

"That's where welfare has gone so horribly wrong and people are so resentful. Perfectly young and healthy people who are able to work, don't. That's why women will have lots of kids, ones they may not want and can't care for, to get better benefits. This is wrong! I say cut off the benefits after one kid. You'll see how fast they'll be taking birth control pills."

Wow, you sound like a Republican, or Bill Clinton. :)

Queens Crapper said...

Democrats want lifelong welfare as well as multi generational welfare.

Tweeding.

Klink Cannoli said...

Anon wrote:
"Wow, you sound like a Republican, or Bill Clinton."
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Silly nilly, that's called being rational and compassionate. Note her first sentence. A principle of our Constitution.

Anonymous said...

The US has the biggest income inequality of all developed countries. Sweden has the smallest. You are about 5 times more likely to be murdered in the US than in Scandinavia. Things like these are not just random, there is a correlation. For a society to function safely, first world nations like the USA need to take better care of the unfortunate and destitute. As a white, privileged 20 something year old male I have no problem with my tax dollars helping go to these people. God knows they need the money more than I do.

me said...

Rather have my $ go to these unfortunate people than to murdering innocent people in the Middle East and Afghanistan. Have you seen the budget for the military? How about the 5-7 billion Obama sends to Israel every year for a "country" smaller than the size of Manhattan. Let us question where the BIG MONEY goes to instead of digressing into the smaller nonsense.

Anonymous said...

Most democrats want to ween people off of welfare but we a bullied by the elected-democrats who are owned by special interests.

Like the republicans who want to do whatever it takes to help the rich not pay their fair share.

Anonymous said...

The system is the problem, they reward you for staying poor. If you try to get back on your feet, get a job and try to pull yourself out of the hole they stop your benefits. The system forces you to stay the way you are to continue getting help. The system needs to be revamped, if people are willing to work cut benefits till they don't need them anymore. Even our medicaid program I feel should have a sliding scale of payment for people who can't afford pvt insurance, this way money goes back into the system instead of the burden being on the taxpayers all the time. But that is too logical for the city officals. The system is the problem and of course people take advantage it's just human nature.

Miles Mullin said...

Funny how the media always finds the hardship case to make justification for the other 99 bums working the system.

This provides a figleaf that we still believe in the old style Roosevelt-Kennedy liberalism.

The reality is that in a million ways almost everyone is getting screwed by a system that harkens back to the Tammaney Machine and the Robber Barons of our great grandparents.

primadonna said...

Thanks Klink!! So nice to have someone who has my back.

georgetheatheist said...

"God knows they need the money more than I do."

So, engage in your own personal eleemosynary activity, you klutz.

Sweden? Sweden? All the leftist dopes always bring up Sweden. Sweden only has a little more than 9 million people.

Between 1934 and 1974, 62,000 Swedes, considered unfit to build a socialist state, were sterilized. The Swedes were the first to sterilize the mentally unfit. This Swedish program predated and outlived Nazi Germany.
The 1974 Nobel laureate, Gunnar Myrdal was a supported of this sterilization program.

Let's apply the Swedish model to our post's Featured Family.

georgetheatheist said...

Miles, there weren't "Robber Barons". There were "Captains of Industry". See, you're victimized by leftwing semantics.

Anonymous said...

They went straight to a homeless shelter??? from the airport? I smell a rat.

How do we know a friend didn't work at the NYC shelter and only claimed that they went there so they would be eligible faster for benefits? Their case should be investigated.


Most likely they were coached by social workers and divisive special interest groups who know how to squeeze the system to milk it for all it's worth.

once classified as homeless (this may have changed ) they were all eligible for NYCHA section 8 housing vouchers, that's how they can afford their apartment. NYC welfare probably paid the security deposit, first month's rent, brokers fees and moving expenses. Perhaps they got a nominal amount for new furniture.

they pushed all the people patiently waiting, some as long as 20 years for a NYCHA Section 8 voucher, back to the end of the line.

Despite the fact that PR is a US Commonwealth, couldn't they have gotten the services back home and not have to subject themselves to the USA?

Anonymous said...

georgetheatheist:

Are you that adverse to taking care of your fellow man? You have such a typical pig headed american attitude. People like you are the reason why your country is so looked down upon in international communities. No one needs to make above $60,000 anyway. I'm so glad your money is being taken from you to help these less fortunate people that obviously did not have the same opportunities as you.

Anonymous said...

You absolutely DO NOT have to have a TEN year work history in the US to get on SSI, that is total crap.

You can leave anther country after working your whole life there, come here, get on some type of assistance wait ten years and then get SSI with zero work history.

Absurd, but true.

georgetheatheist said...

Pal, I am NOT my brother's keeper.

"Pig-headed American attitude"? Are you kidding me? America leads the "whirled" in charitable giving.

Think with your head not with your heart.

Queens Crapper said...

As for helping my fellow man, that is what charities are supposed to be for and why they are tax exempt. The U.S. Government, the State of New York and the City of New York should govern and not be in the charity business. The way I see my tax dollars being spent without my consent on people who make no effort to work makes me not want to open my wallet any more than I already do to give to real charities. The government is already making a mandatory contribution on my behalf. What gets me is that most of these people do not qualify for help from most charities except for the government.

I have worked with people who knew how to work the system. Hell, they had perfected it so that it was practically an artform. They spent their benefit money on drugs which they in turn sold to be able to buy themselves expensive phones, games and other toys. They felt no shame whatsoever in this either, and taught their kids how to do it, too.

Meanwhile, truly needy New Yorkers end up scraping by and usually not receiving any help at all.

It's disgusting. And we're paying for it.

Miles Mullin said...

Miles, there weren't "Robber Barons". There were "Captains of Industry". See, you're victimized by leftwing semantics.

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Oh my God you are right! A lifetime of experience swept aware by your moment of insight.

Not

Next time you come to Pittsburgh I can show you a mine shaft where a few dozen hunkies were left to die and rot because Henry Frick and Andy Carnegie did not want to interfer with their social activities to try and rescue them. Funny how autocrat Franz Joseph found time to build them a momument so they would not be forgotten.

Perhaps you would like to talk to survivors of the Johnstown flood as I once did, but alas! you are in luck - they are all gone now so their experience can now be pushed from our memory.

Perhaps that every body of water, from creek to river ran red with acid drainage would not be visible with your colorblind perspective, or, perhaps you would say it makes a nice contrast to the Blue Ridge Mountains. Not an issue to the Captains of your admiration for they vacationed far way at Kikuit, Newport, and Sibko Castle.

And finally, I would love you to talk with the steelworkers I knew, but again, cancer has claimed their lives

- each and every one of them.

At the rate things are going, dear people, this in not in our past, but our future. Remember Santayana's Law of Repetitive Consequences.

Anonymous said...

The US has the biggest income inequality of all developed countries. Sweden has the smallest. You are about 5 times more likely to be murdered in the US than in Scandinavia.

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Sweden also has very low immigration numbers. You know, the groups that are most likely to stab you.

i WISH we could be like Sweden!

Klink Cannoli said...

No doubt a sensitive nerve has been touched, Miles.

But once the rage has subsided, I'm sure you to understand that evil and narcissism isn't predicated on ideology alone.

Anonymous said...

"Sweden also has very low immigration numbers. You know, the groups that are most likely to stab you.

i WISH we could be like Sweden!"

So only immigrants commit crimes? I would like to remind you that most wars started because of white people.

There have been many posts before this one that were chock full of latent racism. At least you are more open about your bigotry than the rest.

Anonymous said...

Most wars were started by white people. Um, ok.

And this has what exactly to do with this post?

Anonymous said...

Are you that adverse [sic] to taking care of your fellow man? You have such a typical pig headed american [sic] attitude. People like you are the reason why your country is so looked down upon in international communities. No one needs to make above $60,000 anyway. I'm so glad your money is being taken from you to help these less fortunate people that obviously did not have the same opportunities as you.

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That the problem is that the poor and the working poor pay almost zero federal taxes. 25 million American actually pay zero taxes and still get money back each year through the Earned Income tax Credit. The lower 50% of American families only pay 3.5% of total taxes collected. Statements like the one above feed into the class war. You have half of Americans paying no taxes dictating how and demanding more dollars to be spent on social programs while the other half pays the bill. They said no taxation without representation. Well I say no representation without taxation. You shouldn’t have a voice in the debate over how government dollars are used until you start contributing to the cause.

And what opportunities did I have that are unavailable to others? Please explain.

Anonymous said...

Racist white people with a "Fuck you, got mine" attitude that think they are above everyone else.

White people in America have been receiving race-based Affirmative Action from the government for around 400 years.

This wealth has been passed down for generations of white citizens, in the form of education, job opportunity, housing opportunity, property ownership, and inherited wealth.

If you are a white person in the United States, almost without exception you receive at least some (if not most) of the benefits of White Affirmative Action: in the composition + wealth of the town you live in (built by racial segregation), in your schools (received more government funds for 100 years that schools of color), your job opportunities (from social networks of other white professionals who received similar benefits over generations), etc. White people still tend to get easier credit terms, better schools, shorter prison sentences, and more generous government benefits than people of color.

Anonymous said...

And I left the word "american" uncapitalized for a reason.

Queens Crapper said...

Here's the breakdown of who's receiving governmental benefits in this country (Aid to Families with Dependent Children):

White 38.8%
Black 39.8
Hispanic 15.7
Asian 2.4
other 3.3

And I think ALL of them are leeches.

Anonymous said...

FU anon. There a black president now. It proof that you can still do anything you want in this country. Get off your ass and stop looking for handouts. They people that have gotten somewhere in life - white and non-white were not lucky. They made their own luck. Go to school educate yourself and stop hanging out with the eses and you too can make something of yourself.

primadonna said...

"Racist white people with a "Fuck you, got mine" attitude that think they are above everyone else."

That's not racist white people, that's just Republicans. lol

Anonymous said...

If you work for a living and others are leeching off you, you ARE above them. Sad that you don't understand that simple fact of life. What would happen if we all stopped working and started looking for handouts?

Anonymous said...

"Democrats want lifelong welfare as well as multi generational welfare.

Tweeding."

See Crappy, it's stuff like this that, for all the brilliant insights you have and things you bring up, make you look like a cranky, biased twat. Buying people's votes is scumbag-ery that cuts across all political parties. It's not just a Democrat lowlight. If these people could overcome their political expediency, there would be quite a few areas of common sense that they all could agree upon. Focusing social programs on education, rather than handouts should be one of those areas.

Queens Crapper said...

Hey loser, I said that welfare reliance was a tweeding tactic of the Democrats. I didn't say that Republicans don't also tweed.

Sorry, but it seems that you cannot read and comprehend. And both sides like to keep 'em stupid.

CJ said...

Primadonna said:

That's not racist white people, that's just Republicans. lol

That's right Primadonna. Racism isn't your problem. It's the other person's problem. lol

John from Conn said...

@ Miles Sullen & the other Lib symp's.

No one forced those "sad workers" at gun point to take those "rough jobs." They took them voluntarily..i.e...they made a choice. They always had other choices...but, chose not to engage their minds and get a "safer" job...or move the family the heck out of there. Also, compare the work conditions under the "Captains of Industry" compared to the of the rest of the world's Non-Capitalist nation's of the time and your assumptions are exposed as foolish.

You obviously have never owned your own business. Businessmen are forced by nature of a free market to be fair and moral to stay in business over the long run. They have to keep their consumers and their work force happy or risk losing both to the competition...(Unless the government screws up the cycle and gives exclusive licence, rights, grants, or subsides to one company at the expense of another.) If the workers or the public were harmed by negligence...prove it in court and punish those responsible. I am sure you admire Erin Brockovich!

AND... I as well as George...will take care of my fellow man if and when I want in the manner and form I chose. Charity means nothing unless it comes from the willing heart of individuals! Stealing from me to give to the people "you feel are worthy" doesn't make you "Robin Hood"...It makes you part of the mob of common thieves and bottom feeders...

"Woe is me"....you poor victims of history!...Government's proper role is ONLY to protect individual rights and the rights of those individuals to own property. There are NO "GROUP" rights. "Rights" are sanctions for individuals to act and to keep the products of their own actions and labor. Rights are not unearned claims to the actions or products of others.

Klink Cannoli said...

The Brave Anonymous wrote:
"White people in America have been receiving race-based Affirmative Action from the government for around 400 years." "And on and on and on and on..."
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Whoa! That's got to be one the biggest chips on a shoulder I've seen since Malcom X.

Anonymous said...

"Whoa! That's got to be one the biggest chips on a shoulder I've seen since Malcom X."

Truth hurts, don't it? Fact is over the generations white people have robbed people of color and given that wealth to white people and excluded people of color. I think we should give back what was stolen (and then passed down to us).

If anything we need more welfare because people are starving in the streets, but we also need to actually build up the schools and provide jobs so people can get out of the vicious cycle.

Anonymous said...

Let's start out small and get you a job first. Clearly you have been shooting dice in stairwells for too long to tackle such complicated issues. I know theft is a big part of your life, but its not a solution to these problems.

Anonymous said...

"Let's start out small and get you a job first. Clearly you have been shooting dice in stairwells for too long to tackle such complicated issues. I know theft is a big part of your life, but its not a solution to these problems."

Since you have no defense against what I've said you resort to derogatory comments because you are too unintelligent to think of anything else to say. Thanks for conceding defeat.

georgetheatheist said...

Prima-dope-a: "That's just Republicans".

And that during Black History month! Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, freed the slaves. Jim Crow flourished, thrived, during the Democratic stranglehold of the South. [Folks, she's a teacher.]

Anonymous said...

Jobs are available. They are going to illegals because people here that should be holding them are either too lazy or think it is beneath them to do them.

And as for schools, we New Yorkers probably spend more per student than anywhere in the world. And the kids are still dumb. It's not the schools' fault. It's the parents. The same ones who are dependent on welfare.

It used to be if you were poor, you taught your kid to make the most out of what was available to him - a free education. Today's poor say fuck education and teach junior how to deal drugs.

primadonna said...

george & cj:

:-)

Anonymous said...

"It's not the schools' fault. It's the parents. The same ones who are dependent on welfare."

Sorry, but that's not true. Most people in the world, and certainly every study on this issue, has shown that there is not equality of opportunity in this country. The majority of communities of color lack schools, jobs, healthcare, daycare, recreation, rehabilitation, businesses, and safety. Their families are, on average, 7 times more poor than white families. There IS something stopping people from obtaining a better life.

Anonymous said...

Education in this country is free. Sorry, there is no excuse. There are so many stories of people of color who lifted themselves out of poverty that no one can honestly still be claiming that they don't have the same opportunities as others. You can even pick any school in the city to go to now if the one in your neighborhood is inferior.

If your parents don't support and encourage you at home, you likely will fail in school. And it's not whitey's fault that black households are by and large led by single parents who don't give a damn about the whereabouts or welfare of their children.

Queens Crapper said...

From the Queens Chronicle:

Working families who do not earn enough to pay federal income taxes should avail themselves of the earned income tax credit, which can provide up to $5,600 to those who qualify, Rep. Joe Crowley (D-Queens and the Bronx) reminds residents.

Crowley put out a statement promoting the EITC on Jan. 29, Earned Income Tax Credit Awareness Day.

“Tell your friends and family members to find out today if they are eligible for the EITC — it can mean thousands of tax-free dollars!” Crowley said.

Anonymous said...

Lol @ you for thinking that $5,600 is going to make up for the last 400 years of wealth has been passed down for generations of white citizens, in the form of education, job opportunity, housing opportunity, property ownership, and inherited wealth.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for assuming that the majority of people taking advantage of this credit are not white.

GOTCHA.

Anonymous said...

"Thank you for assuming that the majority of people taking advantage of this credit are not white."

The typical white family today has on average seven times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family.

Queens Crapper said...

Not in Queens.

Anonymous said...

"The typical white family today has on average seven times the assets, or net worth, of a typical African American family."

"the last 400 years of wealth has been passed down for generations of white citizens, in the form of education, job opportunity, housing opportunity, property ownership, and inherited wealth."

Just where do you get your misinformation from? And QC is right: Queens, the most diverse county in the US, ia also where black and white families' gross assets and income is nearly equal.

Anonymous said...

Time to get educated:

Black Incomes Surpass Whites in Queens

According to the latest analysis, black households in Queens reported a median income of $51,836 compared with $50,960 for non-Hispanic whites (and $52,998 for Asians and $43,927 among Hispanic people).

Among married couples in Queens, the gap was even greater: $78,070 among blacks, higher than any other racial or ethnic group, and $74,503 among whites.

“When immigrants come here, they’re not accustomed to social programs,” he said, “and when they see opportunities they had no access to — tuition or academic or practical training — they are God-sent, and they use those programs to build themselves and move forward.”


Sounds like the ones without opportunities were the immigrants when they were in their countries of origin, yet they don't have chips on their shoulders about it. Meanwhile, the people already here didn't recognize the gifts when they were given to them. Think of the old adage - "give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for life". Time to wake up and smell the coffee and stop whining already.

The immigrants send their kids to the same schools that your kids go to and many of them start out at a disadvantage because English is not their first language. They come out ahead because their parents push them to learn and they appreciate the education. They also tend to have nuclear families instead of single-parent households consisting one mommy but multiple daddies who are in and out of jail. And surprise! They do better. But of course none of this can be the root cause of poverty in this country. It must be the Man.

Anonymous said...

re:Anon. Racialist.......

stop your whining about the whites and observe your own culture.
read the works of : Dr. Walter E. Williams (black by popular demand), Dr. Tom Sowell (birthplace, Harlem ,N.Y.C. Michelle Malkin,(Culture of Corruption).count the multi-millionaires in the N.B.A.,N.F.L. M.L.B, ETC.ETC.

most went to U.S.universities ,worked hard,learned skills and got paid for it handsomely. they did not wallow in racial hate,like many class warfare advocates trained by left wing progressives.

Klink Cannoli said...

A few snowflakes fall on the floor and an entire county goes apeshit. *snarfs*



The Brave Anonymous wrote:
"Truth hurts, don't it?"
============================

Truth is liberating. And it has unfortunately escaped you.

Apparently my Malcom X comment went right over your head.
*fffft*
Here's a hat tip. Check out his 180 degree turn of black restitution attitudes after he went on his enlightening pilgrimage to Mecca, my brutha.


And do you have no respect for your own words but to hide behind an Anonymous. It's a sure act of cowardice.

Anonymous said...

If you were smart you would use the $5,600 to defray the cost of college. When you graduated you could easily get a job for $50K and contribute something to society. What did you do with that money? Did you buy new rims for your leased SUV?

I'm a minority. My parent came here with nothing two years before I was born. They worked day and night to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table. They became US citizens. They bought a home. It was never fancy, but they looked after us kids. We all got a public school education. We took advantage of government loans grants and scholarships to pay for college. we work part time to pay for our books and expenses while in college. It wasn't easy, but all of their kids now have 6 figure incomes. How can someone show up in this country with nothing and surpass you when you have been here for generations? Time to start looking in the mirror and stop looking in the mailbox for the next check from the gubment.

Anonymous said...

Queens Crapper said:
"I have worked with people who knew how to work the system. Hell, they had perfected it so that it was practically an artform. They spent their benefit money on drugs which they in turn sold to be able to buy themselves expensive phones, games and other toys. They felt no shame whatsoever in this either, and taught their kids how to do it, too."

I know people like that too...not to mention on top of that, they earn CASH from whatever they are selling or from wherever they are working.

Anonymous said...

"How can someone show up in this country with nothing and surpass you when you have been here for generations? Time to start looking in the mirror and stop looking in the mailbox for the next check from the gubment."

How? Because like someone on this post said.. NYC is a welfare magnet!". Just kill the system..and then I wonder what will happen ..to nyc and the illegal immigrants..hmm.interesting to see.

Anonymous said...

Those statistics comparing white and black family income and assets in Queens are misleading.

There are hardly any young white families in their prime earning years left in Queens.

The black population is young and educated.

The white population is largely made up of retired elderly people living on social security.

Most of their children are raising families on Long Island or further afield.

Anonymous said...

How? Because like someone on this post said.. NYC is a welfare magnet!".

Sorry they never took a dime in welfare food stamps or any other social services. They were too proud for that. I watched my father work two jobs, to put food on the table. They came here legally. Paid taxes, bought a home for their family. Paid their fair share of property taxes that put us through public school.

Jokers like this a-hole posting about reparation make my stomach sick.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention most of our families came here after slavery had already been abolished.

Anonymous said...

If they want reparations, maybe they should try to collect from the descendants of the tribal chiefs who sold their own people to whitey for a handful of beads.

Anonymous said...

You people are so easy to troll.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3238516

Anonymous said...

Those statistics comparing white and black family income and assets in Queens are misleading.

REALLY?

There are hardly any young white families in their prime earning years left in Queens.

SAYS WHO?

The black population is young and educated.

BECAUSE AMERICAN IS THE LAND OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND NOT EQUAL ACHIEVMENT!

The white population is largely made up of retired elderly people living on social security.

LIKE WHO? ME? 35 YEAR OLD WHITE QUEENS RESIDENT.

Most of their children are raising families on Long Island or further afield.

NOT IF YOU TALK TO THE PEOPLE ON LI ABOUT THE BRAIN DRAIN AND HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS TO LIVE ON LI!

Anonymous said...

And do you have no respect for your own words but to hide behind an Anonymous. It's a sure act of cowardice.

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lol post ur address.

Hell Gate Kid said...

No one forced those "sad workers" at gun point to take those "rough jobs." They took them voluntarily..

(blah blah blah)

Also, compare the work conditions under the "Captains of Industry" compared to the of the rest of the world's Non-Capitalist nation's of the time and your assumptions are exposed as foolish.

(blah blah blah)

You obviously have never owned your own business. Businessmen are forced by nature of a free market to be fair and moral to stay in business over the long run. They have to keep their consumers and their work force happy or risk losing both to the competition...

(blah blah blah)

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Exhibit 'A' as to why they should teach history in school ... and stay off Fox News.

What you say make absolutely no sense. You are totally uninformed.

Missing Foundation said...

I love Crappy - where else can you get Puerto Rico, Bill Clinton, Henry Clay Frick, Malcom X on one thread.

Crappy, you be de best!

Miles Mullin said...

Klink said:

No doubt a sensitive nerve has been touched, Miles.

But once the rage has subsided, I'm sure you to understand that evil and narcissism isn't predicated on ideology alone.
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CORRECT!

A silver dollar to the feller in the balcony.

Klink Cannoli said...

LOL!

I like Ike! ;@)

Klink Cannoli said...

The brave Anonymous wrote:
"lol post ur address."
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I don't wear dresses.

*drum roll, crash*

Anonymous said...

If anything we need more welfare because people are starving in the streets, but we also need to actually build up the schools and provide jobs so people can get out of the vicious cycle.

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We try to build up the schools, but they quickly get turned into zoos.


Sorry, but i went to an inner-city school. of 5k kids, i was one of about 12 whites. Same teachers, same resources, same everything. Guess what? I finished top of my class without even trying. Top 5% is where all the other whites landed. Our only companions near the top were the Asians.

The rest of the animals got nowhere in life. Sometimes, self-destruction and squalor is all people seem to want for themselves, and yes, it often falls within certain racial groups.



And is has nothing to do with history/background/family conditions. Most Chinese have had it far worse than many Hispanics. How come the Chinese can so easily rise above that once they get here to America and Hispanics cant? At some point, you have to admit that there are some groups that simply are not on the same level as others.

America should only help those who help themselves.

I dont care what color your skin is, or what language you speak. If you make an honest effort, i wish you the best.

Dan C said...

I will never understand the need to seperate everything into a black/white issue. There is a disparity, but it is the rich/poor disparity, not the black/white. Anon, do you really think that the very poor white people were handed everything they have by the wealthy white? Are you kidding? The poor, black or white, that succeed do so because they are willing to put in the work to lift themselves up by their bootstraps and better their lives for themselves and their children. They then promote that same sense of respect for themselves in their children. Welfare should be a temporary solution to help you through a difficult time, not an entitlement. You should try it sometime, it may help you get over the hate you apparently have for all white people - some by the way who have had no more opportunities than you and very possibly can be more destitute than you.

Anonymous said...

Instead of being angry with families of four trying to get buy on public benefits, lets redirect our anger at people like the CEO of VISA and other Wall Street bankers who are taking multimillion dollar bonuses made from charging usurious interest rates and fees to ordinary hard working wage earners and small merchants. Since the early 80's when Ronald Reagan was President, we have been cutting the tax rates on the wealthiest American individuals and companies, subsidizing them so these businesses can rape us of our measly wages and benefits. Bid deal - a family of four that earns less than $45000 may be able to get $5000 in earned income and other tax credits. The CEO of VISA walked away with a $24 million package. Where is the justice? Where is the outrage?

Anonymous said...

non-producing freeloaders vs. income producing taxpayers.?that is the question ?

you class warfare advocates are exposed by the increasing numbers of citizens rejecting high taxes and uncontrolled spending,by the socialist,democrats in our government.

www. tea party.org

Joe said...

Just wait til that Sec 8 money runs.
I hope all you sheep siding with these parasites are prepared to protect yourselves or share your stuff with them.
The cops are gonna be busy protecting the mayor and their own family's

God help anybody running a grocery, video store drives a cab or any COD type of service.

--BIG BIG trouble is coming Bloombergs master plan to bring all these people here to get more federal $$ backfired.

John from Conn said...

Outrage at the wealthy is simply called "envy." I never saw a poor man hire anymore or create a good or service to better anyone's life...People who use their mind's to advance in the free market on the merit of their efforts should be applauded...and most of all....thanked!

We as conservatives desire “Free Competition” without government favoritism. We oppose anyone or any corporation that looks to get in BED with government and create, rules, laws, subsides, or monopolies that favor them at the expense of small businesses. Any Corporation that avoids FREE competition in Favor of political favoritism using lobbyists to buy politicians and create barriers to protect themselves are acting immorally and must be stopped. “Corporatism” is a LEFT WING phenomenon, created ONLY through government meddling in the economy. Advancement in our system should be restored to the"merit of achievement" as people earn things through the value of their efforts and thus are allowed to enjoy the fruits of their own ideas and labor.

Our founding fathers, the wise men that they were, moved beyond barbaric tribal collectivism. During the first 150 years of America's history, people were free to live their lives in any way they chose as long as their actions did not entail violence, coercion, or fraud against others. Americans could engage in any economic enterprise without permission or regulation ... accumulate unlimited amounts of wealth without political interference ... do whatever they wanted with their money ... and travel anywhere in the world without a passport or other evidence of governmental consent. This unique way of life was what distinguished the United States from all other nations in history. It was this way of life that became known as one of "free enterprise." PEOPLE COULD NOT be forced to HELP or SERVE others. Man, for the first time in history was not a sacrificial animal to others. The result was NOT DESPAIR for the common man, but, freedom and an entry way to the opportunity of a better life. The other result was the most charitable nation in the history of man (without government's help!).

LINDA said...

ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

THIS IS OUR PROBLEM AMERICA. WAKE UP!!!!!

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (AND FOLKS FROM PUERTO RICO) THAT ARE MOOCHING OFF OUR SYSTEM THAT IS SUPPOSE TO HELP AMERICAN CITIZENS IN NEED. GO OUT AND GET A JOB! PAY TAXES AND GET INSURANCE.

georgetheatheist said...

Imagine what the Luis Cruz family could accomplish if all their mental and physical activity devoted to the navigation of the welfare state was applied to entrepreneurial activity? I mean it takes real time and work to wallow through the collectivist sewers.

Leeches of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your hosts!

Babs said...

I don't understand why his diabetic wife needs his assistance 24/7 - the article doesn't say she is wheelchair bound or bedridden.

Judging from how this man looks, I think this man only leaves the house when out of food.

The whole family is too fat - I can't imagine their food bill!! All these years this man couldn't get or keep a job?!!

I'm sorry - I'm a Liberal, but my heart's not bleeding for this bunch.

primadonna said...

I don't get it.
When people have done "studies" on living on welfare and only get a few dollars a day for food and say they felt hungry all the time, how are some of these people so fat?

stinky said...

Rep. Joe Crowley (D-Queens and the Bronx) reminds residents.

Crowley put out a statement promoting the EITC on Jan. 29, Earned Income Tax Credit Awareness Day.

“Tell your friends and family members to find out today if they are eligible for the EITC — it can mean thousands of tax-free dollars!” Crowley said.

Can we redraw Crowley's district so that is is exclusivly in the Bronx please?

Anonymous said...

Rep. Joe Crowley (D-Queens and the Bronx) reminds residents.

Crowley put out a statement promoting the EITC on Jan. 29, Earned Income Tax Credit Awareness Day.

“Tell your friends and family members to find out today if they are eligible for the EITC — it can mean thousands of tax-free dollars!” Crowley said.

Can we redraw Crowley's district so that is is exclusivly in the Bronx please?

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Come on guys, taxes pissed away here or there are still taxes pissed away.

You got to hit "honest joe" in public with the cameras rolling - call him a 'tweeder' and the like. write letters.

bitching on the blog is the first step of 10.

Anonymous said...

Primadona said -I don't get it.
When people have done "studies" on living on welfare and only get a few dollars a day for food and say they felt hungry all the time, how are some of these people so fat?

poor people can get carbohydrates & sugar/high fructose corn syrup food for cheap. good food, decent vegetables and protein is not only expensive but not available in poor areas. They load up on carbs, blow up. the truth.

Anonymous said...

Oh ok, I'm all for the fat tax now. Bring it on

Babs said...

The wife is supposed to a diabetic! She certainly should not be chowing down sugar and carbs! And her supposedly supportive family should not have such an unhealthy diet either - for their own health of course and ALSO to not TEMPT HER!

If he wants to help his wife - he should get a job with benefits - custodial work maybe - whatever he can. Just sitting around eating and staring at her all day is not going to make her less sick or less depressed that's for sure.

They're both not setting a good example for their daughters - who unfortunately are very likely to stay in the system in adulthood too.

Anonymous said...

this thread must be printed and sent to each member of the n.y.c.council,nys senate and assembly and ny congressional delegation/U.S.senators.

begin a TAXES ENOUGH PARTY protest from N.Y.C. taxpayers.