QUEENS (WABC) -- A person apparently committing suicide jumped from a railing at the Queens Center Mall and landed on a boy on the ground floor.The person plunged from a third floor inside the mall, in the Elmhurst section of Queens, just before 2:30 p.m.
The jumper landed on a 17-year-old teen who was walking on the mall's ground floor.
The teen was rushed to Elmhurst Medical Center with head trauma.
The jumper was pronounced dead at the scene.
The condition of the teen is unknown.
94 comments:
Can't wait for Crapper to spin this as an over development problem
What an idiot!
Please keep us updated on the condition of the child. May God rest the soul of this troubled person. More suicides and murders will follow in these hard times. Let us always reach out to our fellow suffers and not bear the burdens alone.
Good riddance to a person who cant handle life. My condolences to the person he landed on, and the guy who had to clean up the mess.
NY1 is saying 'pushed or fell"; it might not be a suicide.
It's a sad day for both families. Apparently the person was very sick and most likely didn't want to hurt anyone but himself. I pray for the child and both families.
2 words:
Bernie Maddoff....
Apparently this fello picked the beginning of a Jewish Holiday it could be related.
Somebody just tried to off themselves at the Great Neck LIRR station
That first sicko comment has got to be from "Pinky" Gallagher...
a classic depraved and embittered drunk!
What an asshole thing to do.
Was the jumper in this country legally?
I saw on the news a women jumped no mention of background, but the boy is at elmhurst doing fine. omg, i feel so sorry for the families. Recession may be a big factor to this. Pray for both families and it's not nice to post cruel remarks torwards a very sick person, it could of been someone you knew.
Sad thing is I was there when this happened =\
Wow....i feel very awful
i feel awful
i was at work.. on the same floor, 2 stores away from where she jumped off..
its crazy.. then someone passes out and catches a seizure 20 mins before the woman jumps off on the same floor.
and it snows this morning?
this world was all messed up today.
it was a suicide i was there when it happend. i was just inside pacsun when it happened and trust me you dont want to bethere she definitly jumped otherwise you would have heard a scream but i didnt im sure of it there wasnt one.
I heard she did it in front of her kids...Its horrible and selfish! Those poor kids and the boy she fell on! And the Cops and EMS who have to clean it up. It's not a pretty site...trust me.
didn't hear that on the news, just heard a women jumped. you were there, so you saw the children? very very sad.
yup yup yup your right, feel so sorry for the children.
sadly i was there with my daughter I had my back turned to where she apparently jumped off. all we heard was a really loud thump, then screams and people running. my modo is run and then ask questions later as i looked over the banister the women layed there lifeless face-down on the lower level of the mall a puddle of blood near her face to the right the young man his neck tilted dazed and his face covered in blood. it was truly a horrible sight. i got to see the paramedics arrive and pronounce her dead on the scene, a man cried as he repeated I tried to catch her. im still shaken up by the sight.
I just don't get it. If you're going to kill yourself, a bottle of pills isn't good enough?
I was there when this happned too--it was horrible hearing everyone panic.
j. christ, i always thought about the fact that this could happen, our prayers our w that boy's family. and what a shame about the whole situation.
P.I. attorney is going to eat this up.
you guys should be happy for the boy, he just made 15 million
One of my New Years' resolutions was not to read the Crapper anymore. Today was my first day back. After reading the first few comments, I won't be back. You people are heartless bastards!
For all those people being completely insensitive, the woman who jumped was my neighbor's MOTHER, and it's very sad that she had to do this but in her mind that is what she had to do, I pray for the child she feel on BUT she wasn't an idiot nor can I say good riddance, when I see my friend in pain..
OMG this was very sad 2 hear n omg ur neighbors mother. Ppl need 2 stop saying heartless things. Every1 has rough times every1 has moments everything got 2 this woman condolences 2 da families
Maybe he was trying to catch her.
"Suicide is not abominable because God forbids it; God forbids it because it is abominable." - Immanuel Kant, Lecture at Koenigsberg, 1775
I was there too. I work in the mall, just a few stores down. She jumped! No screams, no nothing! It's a tragedy! I keep seeing her & the poor young boy she fell on top of. My heart goes out to her son who was there & to this poor innocent bystander who is now seriously injured! As a mother myself, I pray for her child & the pain they are going through.
1. the boys name was derreck munoz, he is dead now at the hospital.
2. the woman was around 50 years old. she was shopping with her family.
3. the boy was 17, my age. its a shame. i almost cried. what if it was my mother and it was my friend... =\
this is terrible. I hope the student will be okay, and that the woman is in peace. events like these really make you stop and think about your own life.
Hmmm, When I was taking the escalator down to the main floor at Macy's, this 60 year old something guy fell on my guy friend. Like he was gonna pass out. People behind him tried to catch him. My guy friend tried to make him stand up. Think he was drunk. Today was a weird day indeed. And I had no idea this happened until I saw the late night news. We were at Apple Bees when the lady fell.
Thats awful, who would think you would die when you were trying to just relax. Scary. Awww man, Rest in Peace, in heaven. Im still in shock.
I think it was a suicide, because the woman had taken off her shoes, taken off her jacket, and she had put her handbag with all those things. and i saw a security guy taking her belongings from the floor she jumped from to where she landed. he couldn't figure out what to do with the dead lady's stuff, he kept going up and down with her bag, coat, and shoes(brown heels)
B*tch couldnt wait till she got home to do it in private?? F'in EDP's
Did she do the Triple Lindy going down?
Wow, a woman dies and people are heartless. It could be someone you know and yet you think you can pass judgement. I feel for the families involved. It's sad that a person, a mother, felt such hopelessness that she believed the only way out was death. I can not imagine what her last thoughts were, but I'm certain great pain and sadness occupied her mind. I hope her soul will know peace and I pray the families are able to heal from their grief.
What a nightmare. I was on the second floor across, underneath where she had jumped. I saw everything. She hit the kid on the electrical massage and she landed face forward. He had a gash of blood on his head and was dazed the whole time. One of her kids(?) ran down. A very sad and selfish moment. My payers go out to her kids, the guy and his family.
I was there when it happened. I didnt see the event actually occur, but I saw the ambulance taking out the boy & I saw the cloth over the woman. What a shame, she was with her 2 kids. It was a riot.
i work at that mall and was there when it happened. a customer came in and was like did you hear what happened? i feel so sorry for the families
weird stuff does seem to happen at that mall though...people say its haunted cause a construction worker was killed during the remodel...but who knows
What was the woman's race?
You people are heartless bastards!
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Hold on a second
I dont beleive those vile comments are the work of Queens Crapper Bloggers.
More like certain polititions and people under Führer Bloomberg that want the blog discredited and destroyed.
Facists always try to destroy opponents by getting them to attack each other.
Think twice before taking the bait.
-Joe
the women should commit suicide where she isnt making a scene in a public place, and hurt an other..not saying that she should but pointing out xD, sad either way..
May God bless and help these two families through this very difficult time....... My heart goes out to the woman's two children who had to watch in horror as their mom took her life.
I was walking out of time warner and going in the direction of exactly where she fell.... and I thought at first it was something that someone dropped because the bang was so loud, and I looked and the most awkward 10 to 15 second silence occured where everyone just stood in shock. The kid that got hit was there he was fine when I saw him just as confused as everyone else. But why do it in public man there were children and people there that Im pretty sure as well as her own that did not want to see something like this happen, I knew after looking at her for about a minute that she was gone, its messed up and totally confused and scarred me probably for the rest of my life, as well as others that also witnessed this. What got me stressed was the confusion of how and why did this happen which I did not want to stay for but found out shortly after.
Lukas
Apparently the mall was full of teens on their first day of spring vacation. This suicide will probably have long-lasting effects for some of them.
A few years back when I was in college, a friend of mine was on the subway when someone deliberately stepped onto the tracks. As my friend was in the first car, he saw everything-- the suicide's face, the bump as the guy fell under the wheels, the traumatized conductor smoking a cigarette afterward.
My friend was an upbeat and happy guy. But after this incident, he became gloomy, introspective, uninterested in school or social life. Ultimately he withdrew from school. Who knows if the suicide was the primary reason, but I know it played a big part.
These mall rats think they'll be traumatized.
When my firefighter friend got to Tower 1 on 9/11 he noticed a lot of messes around the building. At first he didn't know what it was. When they were in the lobby they all began hearing these crashing noises and realized it was people jumping from the upper floors. You couldn't even tell they were human after they hit the ground.
And that was all before the building came crashing down on HIM.
Talk about trauma.
i wanted to know from the people who were at the mall were the stores clothes cause the workers were traumatized or what happened coach was closed as well ad there never closed and how is that boy doing and was there alot of blood from the woman ad was the boy bleeding and was the woman big
this is a sewer of a mall.i live mile away and i never set foot in their,ALL LOW LIFES
God Bless the man who tried to catch her, even though it would have been an impossible feat. Please take care of yourself.
By the way, who is taking care of the child's medical bills. Should a collection of some type be taken up?
By the way, who is taking care of the child's medical bills.
----------------------------------- Um, his parents maybe?
I was actually there and show the dead women . I do not know her nationality but she was tanned she was apparently with her two children and took her shoes off before she jumped.
It was incredibly scared her brains were like splattered and there was very little blood.
The kid she fell on was sitting on the massage chairs he was bleeing from his head it looked to me like she cracked his head open.
this is replying to the person referring to what her firefighter friend saw being more traumatizing then what the teens saw at the mall.
those two things are not alike at all
yes it is unfortunate what your firefighter friend saw but there is a difference between one being an adult signing up to be a firefighter and being more aware of what could possibly happen and be seen when doing your job.
These are teenagers and were just shopping when they see a women plunge to her death right in front of them?
Everyone understands how bad 9/11 was for people but you cannot compare it to everything and make what these people including me saw yesterday.
Let's hope his parents can pay for these bills. Unfortunately given the Recession, that is not a certainty.
I remember my own childhood where I suffered untreated earaches for weeks and played Russian Roulette with an unexplained abdominal pain (possibly the first sign of an abnormal ovary that nearly killed me as an adult).
Again, if there are bills to pay I hope that the newspapers will run an address so funds can be sent.
Let's see what the kid's parents can do before we start passing the hat around.
The kid walked out of the hospital this morning after being held overnight for observation.
Next stop, court.
yeah? whos he gonna sue? the dead lady?
Her estate and the mall.
her estate? id bet money there is no "estate'
how is the mall at fault?
If it happens on your property, you are liable. Where was security?
so someone comes over my house and decides to hang themself in my garage. how is that MY fault?
It may not be your fault, but you can still get sued. My friend got sued because a kid trespassed on her property while she was on vacation, climbed into the pool and drowned.
"Again, if there are bills to pay I hope that the newspapers will run an address so funds can be sent."
why? because his injuries made the papers? what about all those people who get hurt everyday, thorugh no fault of their own?
and who could afford any medical care anytime if it weren't for private insurance or medicaid?
you may be dying to give away your money, but I'll hold on to mine, thanks.
"It may not be your fault, but you can still get sued. My friend got sued because a kid trespassed on her property while she was on vacation, climbed into the pool and drowned."
It was her fault - she didn't secure her pool.
And the parents weren't watching their kid. Where's their liability?
This is just terrible. About five and a half years ago there were two such suicides - 28 days apart - in my workplace. I wasn't an eyewitness to either impact but I heard both and I sure as hell saw both aftermaths. One of them fairly close up. I'm going to have the image of that kid's broken and twitching body in my head until I go over the railing myself.
So I feel for the people who had to witness it. Especially the one who was injured. And while I do have sympathy for the woman who jumped - how horribly tormented do you have to be to overcome the basic human urge to continue living at all costs? - I'm also angry at her, just as I am at the kids who jumped at my job. As a friend of mine once said, "suicide is not a performance art." They all selfishly subjected complete strangers to a grotesque spectacle, injuring one and endangering others (a friend of mine was almost hit by one of the jumpers and would certainly have been killed if she had been). I hope she's at peace now but not a good way to go out. Just awful.
But again, why not swallow some pills? Why make such a grotesque "spectacle" of yourself for all to see, especially your kids?
"And the parents weren't watching their kid. Where's their liability?"
I don't know, I guess they'll have to live with the fact that children sometimes die when you're not watching them. Tough lesson, I guess. But the homeowner violated the law by not locking up her pool. Most readers on this blog are big into building, housing, and other type of code violations. I'm sure they'll be quick to bring you up to speed on the height of the fence for a pool and "attractive nuisances." But to say, "My friend got sued and it wasn't her fault" is an idiotic statement. It's her pool, there was an accident, unless she wasn't in violation of any code, then it is her fault.
The kid climbed over the locked fence. Regardless, you can be sued for anything whether or not you committed "a violation".
I have personal experience with suicide. My Fiance's brother locked himself into his bedroom, took a shotgun and blew his brains out with his mother in the next room.
Before killing himself, he called friends and also his brother, trying to coax his brother home early.
The surviving brother broke our engagement shortly afterward, he has suffered noticeably from depression. His mother neglected herself and died shortly after the suicide. I cannot imagine how the friend who was on the phone begging him not to do it feels.
Yes, I understand the anger. I feel some of it myself. Suicide creates collateral damage. No one truly is an island, but even the Catholic church allows interment in consecrated ground since the role of mental illness in suicide is now accepted.
I can only hope that others contemplating such an act will reach out for help from a doctor or clergyman in time. Stay strong.
that women who died was my aunt i don't appreciate whats being said she was a very nice caring person she suffered from depression my family is shock we are trying to deal with it my heart goes out to the young boy i hope hes OK :*(
Its terrible what happened.
This NAZI Mayor and his Rat puppets are making everbody sick.
All this distruction curruption, abuse, crap building is enought to do in Superman!
It could very well be part Bloomberg's fault.
From what I understand she was a being treated at St.John and was locked out.
This has been no doubt hushed by his friends who own all the media companys.
Yet this thief Mayor and Govoner has Billions $$$ for new ball stadiums and skyscrapers for their friends and supporters.
Tell all your family what they did and to vote them out they are no good
slick said...
P.I. attorney is going to eat this up.
you guys should be happy for the boy, he just made 15 million
Wednesday, April 08, 2009
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Yeah. Right. That will make a difference.
How would you feel if that was your kid?
What an unfeeling idiot you are.
Okaee ma boi saw the lady fall i heard her fall sounded like my northface bookbag drop on the floor. Se shud hav killed herself in her crib.i cud just imagine...guy iz sittin on massage chair relaxin sayin "ohh yea dis iz worth ma $" den baam! I wud hav been fukkin tight at the lady,dum bitch. He shud try n sue maybe he cud buy his own massage chair n use it in his crib w.o suicidal ppl landin on him
Anonymous said...
Okaee ma boi saw the lady fall i heard her fall sounded like my northface bookbag drop on the floor. Se shud hav killed herself in her crib.i cud just imagine...guy iz sittin on massage chair relaxin sayin "ohh yea dis iz worth ma $" den baam! I wud hav been fukkin tight at the lady,dum bitch. He shud try n sue maybe he cud buy his own massage chair n use it in his crib w.o suicidal ppl landin on him
Thursday, April 09, 2009
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Gee. What a profound statement. How much thought you put into it!!!
Your point being?
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/queens/2009/04/09/2009-04-09_suicide_jumper_lands_on_teen_at_queens_mall.html
Okaee ma boi saw the lady fall i heard her fall sounded like my northface bookbag drop on the floor. Se shud hav killed herself in her crib.i cud just imagine...guy iz sittin on massage chair relaxin sayin "ohh yea dis iz worth ma $" den baam! I wud hav been fukkin tight at the lady,dum bitch. He shud try n sue maybe he cud buy his own massage chair n use it in his crib w.o suicidal ppl landin on him
This is either: written in Ebonics, or a nonsensical screed written by someone who was "socially promoted" in the New York City school system.
Oh wait a minute, those are both basically the same thing!
Diversity is our STRENGTH!!!!
I've seen this bizarre language before, and I would like to know how anyone who passed through twelve years of schooling in standard English could write like this?
Speak like this casually among friends, okay. But expect to write like his and be taken seriously?
Wade Nichols said...
Okaee ma boi saw the lady fall i heard her fall sounded like my northface bookbag drop on the floor. Se shud hav killed herself in her crib.i cud just imagine...guy iz sittin on massage chair relaxin sayin "ohh yea dis iz worth ma $" den baam! I wud hav been fukkin tight at the lady,dum bitch. He shud try n sue maybe he cud buy his own massage chair n use it in his crib w.o suicidal ppl landin on him
This is either: written in Ebonics, or a nonsensical screed written by someone who was "socially promoted" in the New York City school system.
Oh wait a minute, those are both basically the same thing!
Diversity is our STRENGTH!!!!
Friday, April 10, 2009
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Of course, this could also be some White guy trying to sound like what he thinks a Black guy talks like, and being an obvious and dismal failure at that task.
It called ebonic or "gang jive" and its teached in schools today.
I have heard of instances where school teachers have to RAP or sing in Spanish to get these kids to respond to anything.
For all new teachers to get certification they are tested on this book thats based all this multcultural garbage.
It must be over 2 inches thick !!!
Its called "Skills for multcultural ___"
---Well something or something like that
We will soon be a broken country of elderly white useless young people with no future.
These kids are going to be doing what there parents did in there home countrys to survive. Gangs, Hooking, Drugs, Stealing, Kidnapping, Extortion, Living in boxes.
There will not be enough cops to stop it, its like keeping back the ocean with a broom when it starts
I sure dont look forward to my senior years !!
Id be better off actually moving to Centrals America by 2025 since they already apparently shipped all there sh*t here.
Wow, As I have experienced being a family member of a person who has tried to commit suicide a few times..this is a very trying time for the family and friends and unfortuantely the pedestrians at the mall who will now have to live with this tradgedy in their minds forever. First and foremost, it is no ones fault that this happened. No one else is to blame. Their reasons for doing this are never rational to the rest of us. The last time my family member did this, I yelled at them...why did you do something so stupid..again..and the reasons are bizarre. So, no matter how hard "you" try, its not up to you to change the way their brain processes things, its up to them to seek the proper help. Dealing with someone with mental illness sometimes is like dealing with a drug addict..you cannot protect them, you cannot change them, they need to want to get better. And if you back away to protect yourself and your family...and only those of you who have gone through this know...you are not wrong..you've tried to help, but you too cannot be dragged to that dark and horrid place in their minds...you need to survive and live as normally as possible. You should not feel guilty. Sad for them yes, mad yes. Frustrated, always. I wish inner peace to her family and friends, and a full phyical and mental recovery to the poor kid she landed on.
"Anonymous said...
It called ebonic or "gang jive" and its teached in schools today.
I have heard of instances where school teachers have to RAP or sing in Spanish to get these kids to respond to anything.
For all new teachers to get certification they are tested on this book thats based all this multcultural garbage.
It must be over 2 inches thick !!!
Its called "Skills for multcultural ___"
---Well something or something like that
We will soon be a broken country of elderly white useless young people with no future.
These kids are going to be doing what there parents did in there home countrys to survive. Gangs, Hooking, Drugs, Stealing, Kidnapping, Extortion, Living in boxes.
There will not be enough cops to stop it, its like keeping back the ocean with a broom when it starts I sure dont look forward to my senior years !!
Id be better off actually moving to Centrals America by 2025 since they already apparently shipped all there sh*t here"
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what a profound statement from yet another xenophobic WASP. Don't make it a cultural thing, you idiot. And if you insist on it, at least learn how to spell.
Of course, this could also be some White guy trying to sound like what he thinks a Black guy talks like, and being an obvious and dismal failure at that task.
How do you know it's not some black guy trying to make us think it's a white guy acting like a black guy?
The possibilities are endless - so is your stupidity.
what a profound statement from yet another xenophobic WASP. Don't make it a cultural thing, you idiot. And if you insist on it, at least learn how to spell.
Who are you anyways? An anthropology professor?
As the saying goes, "An anthropologist is someone who respects every culture but his own."
"Okaee ma boi saw the lady fall i heard her fall sounded like my northface bookbag drop on the floor. Se shud hav killed herself in her crib.i cud just imagine...guy iz sittin on massage chair relaxin sayin "ohh yea dis iz worth ma $" den baam! I wud hav been fukkin tight at the lady,dum bitch. He shud try n sue maybe he cud buy his own massage chair n use it in his crib w.o suicidal ppl landin on him"
did any of you numbnuts think anonymous was just joking around? and he has a point
did any of you numbnuts think anonymous was just joking around? and he has a point
No. There's never been one single instance of satire EVER on Queens Crap. No one jokes around on this blog, no sireee!!!!
Is it true that she was decapitaed? I was told that by someone that was at the mall when this happened?
Anonymous said...
"Okaee ma boi saw the lady fall i heard her fall sounded like my northface bookbag drop on the floor. Se shud hav killed herself in her crib.i cud just imagine...guy iz sittin on massage chair relaxin sayin "ohh yea dis iz worth ma $" den baam! I wud hav been fukkin tight at the lady,dum bitch. He shud try n sue maybe he cud buy his own massage chair n use it in his crib w.o suicidal ppl landin on him"
did any of you numbnuts think anonymous was just joking around? and he has a point
Friday, April 10, 2009
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Of course, I knew anonymous was joking around. It wasn't very funny, making fun of a very tragic event, but it was extremely obvious.
That's why I wanted to know what was the point he/she/it was trying to make.
Satire has its place, but not when a women is dead and a child is severely injured and possibly dead by now.
We will have to keep a close eye on our neighbors, family and friends because domestic violence, crime and suicides skyrocket during hard times.
I hope this is the last time we hear about mall suicides, unfortunately this is just the type of story that leads to copycats too.
i was there and even doe im sad for her and her kids that she had left behind im still mad i was there in yellow rat bastard and couldn't go to hot topics cause they blocked off the hole of that secession of the mall Grrr.
Not even as a joke. The grieving families of the woman and the boy are reading this blog.
the kid got 23 staples in the head...back injuries....rib injuries...severe concussion...problems in his right hand....but is doing ok given the fact that doctors say he should b dead..his girlfirend is doing ok but is very traumatized....the crazy part to this is that the kid is me....no lie it really is me...thanks to those who cared bout me and my regaurds to the other family invoved...im jus happy to b alive
I wouldn't have commented on this, but after reading a really fucking stupid, tactless comment that the idiotic "italian girl" had left, I just have to. All I want to say to you, italian girl, is this: FUCK YOU. Who the fuck do you think you are, comparing your and your firefighter friend's pain and suffering to that of the people who were unfortunate enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, the day that the woman at Queens Center Mall killed herself? What do you mean by that stupid little comment of yours, that the people who were unlucky enough to endure this, THINK they'll be traumatized by the suicide? How dare you trivialize others' pain. I'll say this on the behalf of those who've had to witness her death, and everyone out there who, UNLIKE you, actually has a fucking conscience: SHUT UP and FUCK YOU.
R.i.p mrs lovelace..god bless your soul..shouldve thought about the poor children but...n gett better soon my boy from lic high school.
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