Monday, March 23, 2009

Gang leaders face death penalty for 2007 Flushing murder


From NY1:

Two members of one of the nation's most notorious street gangs (MS-13) are being held on murder charges in connection with a 2007 murder in Flushing.

And the gang has "a large presence in Queens."

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

They need to go back where they came from and have a small presence there, preferably six feet deep, six feet long and three feet wide.

Anonymous said...

And when I once questioned a 109th precinct officer at our civic meeting if MS13 was a problem in Flushing last year he replied , "No"!

Funny how I was able to spot their gang's graffiti in my nabe and they were blind!

Shows you how ineffective
that "promotion precinct" really is
in dealing with such a large turf.

The 109th's commanders rarely spend more than two years at their posts
then move on and up the ladder.

Snake Plissskin said...

This is part of the diverse! vibrant! fabric that the clubhouse wants to assure their stranglehold on Queens.

Wait for the gang violence in Mexico to spill over to Queens!

Wade Nichols said...

Two members of one of the nation's most notorious street gangs (MS-13) are being held on murder charges in connection with a 2007 murder in Flushing.

How can this be? Former President Jorge Bush assured us that "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande".

I seriously doubt these fine, upstanding individuals were really involved in a murder. They were probably members of a study group, practising for the entrance exam to Stuyvesant High School. Or maybe they were simply disssecting a cadaver for their medical school exams.

Remember, Diversity is our strength!!!

Anonymous said...

Yawn.
Didn't take long to divert this discussion from gang violence to an anti-Brown people rant.

Anonymous said...

Yes, especially since we all know that the MS-13 gang isn't made up of Brown people. Maybe instead of crying racism, Brown people should clean up their own house.

Wade Nichols said...

Didn't take long to divert this discussion from gang violence to an anti-Brown people rant.

Funny, I don't see where anyone even mentioned skin color in their postings, until you did, jerk!

Also, aside from maybe a few white supremacist/skinhead groups, there isn't a problem in this country with white gangs. MS13, Crips, Bloods, etc. etc. are not white, jerk.

Too bad those gang members didn't deal with you, so we wouldn't have to read your whiney drivel.

Anonymous said...

To be fair, every impoverished group has had their gangs, see: The Westies, Cosa Nostra, Russian Mafayia, Tongs, Yakuza, Triads, Bumpy Johnson,the Purple Gang.

That doesn't mean we want these people living next door to us.

Anonymous said...

Never heard of them

Anonymous said...

Never heard of 'em?

This newbie is showing off his ignorance to the world!

Anonymous said...

I think he is being funny. The list I gave covers every racial group and spans over a hundred years.

He had to have heard of some on them, especially the ones burning down his neighborhood merchants or giving him the evil eye if he paid too much attention to their clubhouses.

Anonymous said...

Funny, I don't see where anyone even mentioned skin color in their postings, until you did, jerk!

Nope, but you were all but denouncing Mexico in its entirety, jerk!

Also, aside from maybe a few white supremacist/skinhead groups, there isn't a problem in this country with white gangs. MS13, Crips, Bloods, etc. etc. are not white, jerk.

Mafia, jerk.
So you're saying it really IS about brown people, all of whom these gangs represent, jerk? That was too easy, jerk.

Too bad those gang members didn't deal with you, so we wouldn't have to read your whiney drivel.

Now you're wishing death and/or dismemberment on me, jerk? Because I don't share your Euro-centric and narrow-minded view of the world, jerk? Lovely chatting with you, jerk.

Anonymous said...

Predictable that the airheads here have a visceral reaction to perceived racism. This is about crime. Period. Regardless of where the gangs are from and who belongs, we're talking about a social problem that needs to be addressed. Where are the parents of these gang bangers? Why do these kids gravitate toward these violent gangs. Oh wait!!! You're talking about Brown people, you rascist dog. Oh the Russians are gang members, so are the Italians...!!

Wake up people. We cannot have a rational discussion of immigration, crime or virtually any other issue without having the racism bell go off. The real problems don't get addressed and the rhetoric just goes on.

That's how and why we have the sorry lot we have in office. The population gets bogged down in the superficial and the irrelevant. We are going to hell in a handbasket because we cannot have an honest discussion of any social problem without a slew of accusations about every ethnic group represented in this city.

Anonymous said...

It's understandable that African Americans would be sensitive to the idea that Brown = Criminal because lives have been lost due to this association, see: Dialo, Louima, Dorismond just to name a few recent cases.

I have had African American friends who were repeatedly stopped and questioned for the crime of returning from work to their own homes. After a while you would think that a policeman who saw the same people every day would know who belonged to an area and who did not.

If you had to worry that some paranoid cop would shoot you unnecessarily or witness women running across the street when you walked by, you would be sensitive too.

Remember, "We are all strong enough to bear the misfortunes of others."

Anonymous said...

Maybe you should be more outraged that Hispanic gang members chose a young black man at random to kill.

Anonymous said...

So one slaughtered innocent is more acceptable than another?

Anonymous said...

Only one slaughtered innocent is the subject of this post. The others, though tragic, have no connection to MS13.

Anonymous said...

The reality is that the members of MS13 are a bunch of hoodlums. Plenty of Spanish people work like dogs and hurt no one.

It is as unfair to equate all Mexicans with MS 13 as it is to make a Mafia connection with Italians.

Precious few members of any group belong to gangs. They are usually the poorest and roughest members of any group, and membership falls through the floor as wealth and social acceptability rises. This has been the history of every form of organized crime in history.

Anonymous said...

And the rise of illegal immigration has brought MS13 to us. We never had this problem in Flushing before.

Anonymous said...

Whether we need to tighten up our immigrant policies is a separate issue. It is unfair to brand every alien as a member of this hoodlum group and those who do give credence to cries of "racism."

We never had the Bowery Boys, Gophers and other gangs of this ilk before the famine forced thousands of poor Irish from their homes.

We never had the modern mafia, founded by Italians with a little help from some Jewish thugs, before the earthquake in Italy that sent thousands of Italians here.

I could go on. Thuggery is not any group's monopoly.

Rock Wangslot said...

The rise of illegal immigration may or may not have "brought MS13 to us," but let's not forget... this gang exists for one purpose and one purpose only: to run illegal drugs to voracious, hedonistic American consumers.

Supply and demand, something you economics experts out there should readily understand. Americans like their drugs, their government criminalizes them, so criminal gangs engage in the risks involved in distributing the drugs.

Anonymous said...

Listen everyone this is no surprise that these guys did it im from flushing born and raised and ms13 has been coming into the flushing area near broadway LIRR station and 154st buildings since around 2004 something has to be done the neighborhood kids are being harassed and the neighborhood hardly is safe to walk around in, and they keep getting more memebers.

Anonymous said...

Wing-nut....
MS13 is a Salvadoran gang not Mexican....like in "Mara Salvatrucha" or however it's spelled.

And yes, unfortunately, they are certainly Latino...light, tan or brown!

Wing-nut said...

They're all the same.

Rock Wangslot said...

MS13 is a Salvadoran gang not Mexican...

I never said they were Mexican, and I don't care if you think they're Salvadoran, Mexican, or Ecuadorian.

The point remains that they're in business because Americans like to toke, snort, and shoot up. Do you have a beef with this premise, or you just wanna pick nits?

Anonymous said...

35-30 Northern Boulevard is the SALVADORAN central of Flushing. Its 2 6 story apartment building with at least 600 salvadorans in it. 95% of the youth there are members or are involved with MS-13.

P.S. 22 on Murray and Sanford street is "their playground". Most of the younger teens (around 14-16 years old) were born in Flushing. But alot of the older ones are illegals from El Salvador.

The 109th knows about these guys and they dont give a rats a$$ about Flushing.

Cherokeesista said...

Anonymous said...
Yawn.
Didn't take long to divert this discussion from gang violence to an anti-Brown people rant.

Monday, March 23, 2009

YAWN YAWN!!! Just love to get that race card going don't ya:) Well jackass you were the only one bringing up skin color!!! And who really gives a damn where the low life scum originated from DEPORT THEM AND THEIR LOTTERY BABIES!!! And could someone tell me whats with the gold and silver teeth??