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Crowley could not even deliver the Queens Delegation. Great job Liz, this issue shows that you are no leader. At least we found this out before November.
Whatever happened to her powerful last name? She couldn't deliver the votes.
Nothing is by accident nor would the organization ever dis someone loyal with that last name.
She cut a deal.
She is just a pawn - a safe seat warmer. Your problem is with the organization.
I PERSONALLY THINK DIZZY LIZZY FOUGHT THE WRONG FIGHT, SHE SHOULD'VE TOLD THEM TO NOT BUILD IT. NOT ONLY DO WE GET THIS H.S. BUT THE SO CALLED KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WONT BE ABLE TO GET IN IT. STUPID PARENTS, STUPID COUNCIL WOMAN. YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD THEM NO SCHOOL TO BEGIN WITH YOU ASSHOLES.......
Well good going lizzy and parents of maspeth. and i don't want to hear this all started before liz took office, blah blah blah... she did nothing to defend our community and against the racist mouths of Mr. Barron and Marge of "Big Six". so it doesn't surprise me in the least. Now Maspeth, Middle Village and Glendale what are you going to do now? this women is out of her mind she thinks she can make a difference, hello you didn't even stand up for us at the meeting when they called us a bunch of racist people. I'm so done with her and I don't even care about any opinions of hers, she won't get my vote.
Oh and to council memebers Mr.Lui and others thanks for not defending us. i really thought Mr. Lui understood our concerns, but it's all about power, now i'm going to tell the asians down near 74 street that you voted yes to take the property. It was never a race issue and to take away someones right of owning and selling to who they want is wrong. NYC should not be allowed to pull this domain crap on anyone. I think now we all should go down to college point and stand up for them too!!! didn't really understand before but now I do, the city will do it to other communities too, you'll see. Sca was given alternative sites and they're going to take them too. Our mayor and city councils are all crooks.
Secede from New York City! Establish the Towns of Maspeth and Middle Village. You don't like the way things work? Get out of the city. Then you can do what you want.
Avella stood with us...AVELLA FOR MAYOR!
Come November I'm proclaiming Election Day "TONY TIME." Time to vote for Tony Avella for Mayor and time to vote for Tony Nunziato for City Council. These people care about us. As for Ms. Crowley, I don't believe a word she says and I will tell anyone who will listen to me not to vote for her.
lmao, it's amazing to hide under anonymous and think you can say what you feel, well smart ass try posting your name. and the people of maspeth, middle village and glendale don't need the trash of you coming to our town, so will stay.
The more you talk about Tony Avella for Mayor the stupider this blog becomes. No one in government takes this guy seriously. The Mayor of NY needs to be consensus builder, he needs to lead by gathering people to him. Tony is loner who doesn't get along with anyone. His personality is toxic.
I agree, if anyone wants an alternative to Bloomberg the Dictator, Thompson is the man.
Liz Crowley courageously stood up and said no to the school. Her colleagues face re-election this year and cannot be perceived as voting against a school. All you Liz Haters are Knee-Jerk reactionaries. Look at the facts. Liz did stand up. Liz took an unpopular position and she tried her best. The other electeds just looked out for themselves.
Democratic dictionary:
courageously stood up = made a deal
If we lost the vote it's because Elizabeth was for the school, chasing rainbows, looking for priority enrollment from the DOE, an accommodation that just doesn't exist in the year 2009 and she was told exactly that by the DOE. She didn't listen to her constituency who knew better and that's the reason for the loss.
She even ignored the CB5 vote on March 11th, the Resolution for the school with the several stipulations that CB5 voted for.
The issue was no school at any cost because of the oversaturation of schools with two other schools in close proximity, inadequate transportation, 4,000 kids on the residential streets at arrival and dismissal and the prowling school buses on the streets. That was the sum total of all our testimony on March 31st and that argument I thought seemed to resonate with the Committee on March 31st.
Forget her "good intentions" of having kids walk to school. That's from Oz and that's where Elizabeth belongs. She doesn't "get it!" She's history!
No YOU really don't get it.
Liz fought hard against the proposal as it stood. Coming up with these bogus theories just because you hate Liz DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTS. Her colleagues did not want to vote against a school. This is a fact that could be used against them in upcoming elections. Try to get that through your brain.
The vast majority of them are running for their same seats. They are the hands on favorites to win and in most cases have no opponents.
Give me a fucking break.
Crapper - you just don't get it either - or you are just too stupid to know about City politics. Event Chris Quinn faces a tough re-election in her district. Your show of ignorance is overwhelming and makes you appear stupid. No elected official who fears re-election will vote against a school....period. Get it!!
If the school is not in their district, none of their constituents is going to give a shit. And YOU obviously don't know politics because incumbents are almost guaranteed re-election in this city. They voted this way because they are beholden to the UFT, Quinn and the mayor. They probably even requested permission from Quinn to vote no like they did on term limits.
Okay Crapper Dummy - Politics 101.
Herein begins the lesson stupid. So sit back, open your notebook and enjoy!
If you are running against an incumbent - YOU GO NEGATIVE. So, if they voted against a school siting in NYC, you say, they are anti-education. You use their record against them. You freakin' moron.
Who is running for re-election to their current seat that has a serious opponent?
Thank you.
Yeah, so if that were the case, then Vallone, Oddo, etc. would not have voted no.
I guess they disproved your theory.
Since no other schools had been torpedoed since 2002, a challenger would have a hard time making that argument work.
Two more morons trying to make sense. Look, as I said even Chris Quinn has serious opponents running against her. If you want a rundown of who is running against who....go to the Campaign Finance Board and check it out. Oh No.......... I just gave away a site you both know nothing about. The amount of sheer utter stupidity is staggering. This is politics baby, both of you grow up. Liz Crowley stood up and fought the good fight.
Good for her!!!
The New York City Council has never voted against a school. For a Council Member to do so would open themselves up to an opponent. I agree with the post. Liz Crowley is courageous.
Tony the Crapper Avella for garbage collector. Now there's a position he would be great at!
Why so jealous of avella?
This does make sense. Liz voted no and the other council members did not support her because they were afraid of their own asses.
Ok, I'll buy this now. Good for Lizz
Katz has land use. She knows how bad that school in Forest Hills is going to be for her area. She does not care about the Glendale, Middle Village, Maspeth area. What did she say she was going to run for?? However, she did get it zoned for FOREST HILLS!! Elizabeth stood up for the people, and not many others. YOU remember who voted for this school comes November!!!
Based on that alone, I will vote for Liz Crowley.
Oh how cute Liz's family is posting comments like crazy.
This is how it REALLY works in the City Council:
Bloomberg calls Quinn.
Quinn tells the council members how to vote.
Council members vote her way or risk getting shit on in the future.
If they want to save face with their constituents, they ask her for permission to vote no.
Liz Crowley is a dim bulb who fought for something that was futile. You don't open a can of worms by giving a certain neighborhood special privileges that others don't get.
Yeah, its true, Crappy never has anything good to say about Liz. She voted no, did what the people wanted, and she's still taking it from the crappie. Let's be fair for once.
I agree, "let's be fair" Enough Crappie, hand it to Liz. She fought the good fight and lost because of politics.
How many consecutive nasty moronic comments are you going to write? Liz fought for the teachers union and the PTA, not for Maspeth.
I seem to remember the Crapper being very fair towards Liz during her latest head-to-head match with Anthony Como. I guess he's supposed to praise Dizzy now until the end of time. These councilmembers need to be put in their place.
It's amazing how so many supporting liz crowley, i didn't see you at the meeting or our lady of hope you favor of the school. i believe all of these b.s. posts are made by family and staff of liz crowley and she has to be really nervous about losing her job to run such a scam on line. give it up lizzy borden your the one axed.
To quote Bill Murray from Ghostbusters:
"This chick is toast!"
So far we lost the hospital we needed and gained a high school we didn't want. Can't wait to see how she fucks up the reservoir.
Dizzy Lizzy stood her ground? BULLSHIT!
She fought for local school zoning which doesn't exist on the HS level and hasn't existed since Bloomturd took over. Who the fuck does she think she is? She's a dangerous moron, and that retarded albino assistant Littledick Sleeper is another gray matter challenged hack who doesn't have a clue. Dumb and Dumber.
DIZZY LIZZY TOOK AN AX,
GAVE MASPETH RESIDENTS 40 WACKS.
WHEN SHE SAW WHAT SHE HAD DONE,
SHE GAVE THE BUSINESS OWNERS 41...
Boycott Dizzy Crowley
She's just too dumb for words.
Wow it's nice to see that someone can read through the nasty messages to crapper and relize it's Liz, her staff and family members. and yes we lost a hospital and gained a school, but what good is the only one hosptial we got, when EMS won't be able to get to it. There will be so much backed up traffic on Grand avenue, that's right folks of Maspeth and let's not forget Ridgwood we won't be able to get anyone there in time. It's sad the city council did not give that any consideration on their decisions. Oh and lets not forget our great mayor Mr. Bloomberg, he can stop this right now! he can actually pull the plug on all of this, so why hasn't he defend our three communties? but bet your ass he'll be over here looking for votes. I'm so done with all the b.s. and again I won't vote for Liz and hopefully someone will step up for her seat and the mayor's seat and just be honest. Wow is that even possible?? and please if we do get a new mayor, please get rid of the staff, can't stand seeing Quinn up his ass anymore, another one that needs to go away. Let's not forget she was questioned about money. Mr. Bloomberg an apology won't be enough from that racist pig from Brooklyn he needs to be thrown off city council. Still amazed that this man was once a black panther and is on city council, lmao..... this city is a joke.
I heard Elizabeth Crowley speak last year. Frankly I don't know how you guys in Western Queens could vote for someone so uninspiring. She slurs her words, speaks with no authority and her sentences are filled with political clichés. When I heard her speak she could not finish a complete thought. It was more than embarrassing. I can see why the city council would not go along with her. I guess in some neighborhoods, the electorate votes with their asses and leave their brains at home.
Sorry to say that from here the voters in your district got exactly what they deserve.
Gallagher pushed for the high school.
So did Como.
Liz was just too dumb to stop it.
Please leave Dennis Gallagher alone.
Hasn't he suffered enough?
He was so desperate for a woman he actually raped a woman 9 years his senior.
He got thrown out of office in disgrace.
He's a penniless sex offender and an outcast in his own neighborhood.
His wife Donna ran off with a brother who unlike Dennis has a normal size package.
And Patrick is having a gay time through it all.
oh, I almost forget, he's being sued for millions.
OMG! how about the racist guy from brooklyn, he can be our next mayor! the city is shit now and he can blame it on the WHITE FOLK!
Crowley voted No. FACT! The SCA pushed this now because in an election year passing this is a sure thing.
This school started with Pinky. He screwed it up. Phony Tony Como screwed it up. It falls into Crowley's lap. She tried to fix something that was already broken.
Can we be FAIR please.
Who is Gallagher's attorney?
NO. IT WAS SCREWED UP TP BEGIN WITH. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!
PINKY AND PHONY TONY COMO SCREWED IT UP. LIZ COULD NOT FIX SOMETHING SO SCREWED UP.
Why don't you people get off your asses and do something about it instead of bitching about the people who are actually trying to make a difference in this city?
BE FAIR? WAS SHE FAIR ON US WHEN THE RACIST BASTARD CAME RUNNING IN TAKING THE FLOOR CALLING US ALL RACIST IN MASPETH, MIDDLE VILLAGE AND GLENDALE. AND LET'S NOT FORGET MARGE FROM THE BIG SIX!
LIZ HAD THE MIKE, SHE COULD OF STOP THEM IN THEIR TRACKS AND DIDN'T, FUK THAT NOISE, NO ONE SHOULD BE FAIR TO HER AND SHE MADE HER OWN BED NOT DEFENDING US! THIS IS NEW YORK BOYS AND GIRLS AND THAT'S HOW IT GOES, JUST ASK THE GIANTS OR JETS.......
RIGHT! DO SOMETHING ABOUT. YOU HAVE A COUNCILMEMBER WHO IS SYMPATHETIC TO YOU. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE A MAYOR WHO IS NOT.
CONNECT THE DOTS. BLOOMBERG MUST GO.
NO BLOOMBERG--NO SCHOOL.
LMAO, WE DID TRY TO DO SOMETHING BUT AGAIN THE CROOKS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL ROBBED US ALL. SO PLEASE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE EXACTLY TO ASSUME THAT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING. DIDN'T SEE YOU AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WHAT DOES THE GIANTS AND THE JETS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS DISCUSSION.
CROWLEY VOTED NO!
"TO DUMB TO STOP IT"
MAYBE IT WAS TOO F**KED UP TO STOP!
Get over whether or not Liz stood up for you when someone called you a racist. This isn't high school. Are you too much of a pushover to not stand up for your self?
IN THAT SITUATION WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
WELL???
YOU HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS RIGHT???
TELL ME, PLEASE
Hey liz stop posting comments on this site, it's too funny to watch you have a total melt down, lmao. and giants and jets know how new yorkers are either we love ya or don't. i got it!
well let me tell you if you were allowed to speak out at these meetings i would of got up in front of city council and called him the racist pig he is. how dare you walk into a room not knowing what the concerns are and assuming the worst because we are white. why don't you look up this ass hole on the web, he is a crook like the rest of them and i want to know who from SCA paid him to come in and start this and why isn't the mayor doing more about this. change starts at home and apparently he is the one stuck back in time, not us white folks as he put it.
Who are you trying to convince that you're not a racist??? Interesting............
you got the jets/giants thing. GREAT JERKY.
THERE IS GOING TO BE A SCHOOL ACROSS FROM ME. I DONT.
CROWLEY IS A WINNER.
Crowley fought the good fight. I'm so tired of all the haters. Thank you Liz for standing up for us when no one else would!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely, enough with the negative comments about Liz. She deserves our thanks and our vote. She may not have won, but she's a scrapper and I want her in my corner.
liz crowley is in the pocket of the construction unions, look it up. she made a deal. she really wanted the school but wanted it to appear that she was going to fight for local zoning but she knew early on that it wouldn't happen. katz and others coached her to make it appear that she fought for local zoning. guess what folks, she won, the high school will be built in maspeth. something she wanted all along.
hey maspeth, you lose, again. thank lizzy and the unions for that.
"Absolutely, enough with the negative comments about Liz. She deserves our thanks and our vote. She may not have won, but she's a scrapper and I want her in my corner."
Are you that gullible or Liz Crowley?
First forget about Avella for Mayor. Not gonna happen.
And I like him!! Just not gonna happen.
As for Nuziatto going for city council seat , come on.
Get real. We need someone who has some education and can clearly express the needs of out community , not a foot stamper and screamer who throws tantrums. Go sell flowers and shut up!!!
lmao, i'm just repeating what the man said to us and if you were there black, white, asian, latin,etc etc etc you would of be offended too. i'm not the racist he is and to pull out a race card is very sad today. and the mayor needs to stop this kind of action with the city council, very very sad.
hey crapper for city council,lmao
hey looking up helen sears and on her page she looks too young, time to update your picture dear.
yeah your right, she looked older when i saw her. noticed most of the seats are up in december, hey there's HOPE for change.
Jake or James do you know if Melinda coached anyone?
CROWLEY VOTED NO!
GREAT JOB LINDA...YELL BACK AT BARRON....WHAT A SOLUTION....
hey it's a hell lot more then liz did, lmao.......
the way it works when the local council member is against the school the dept of ed backs off. liz crowley didn't try to get the city to back off of the maspeth site. as a result, the good people were handed all of the problems of a public high school with absolutely no benefit. few maspeth kids will get into this school thanks to the bloomberg admissions policy.
Although the rest of the Council generally votes the way the local council member votes on issues affecting their community, in this case we have found out that Council Speaker Christine Quinn has successfully lobbied the rest of the Council to vote in favor of the school in order to curry favor with the Bloomberg administration. Since the Speaker can and does make council members' lives miserable if they vote against her, most of the members are intimidated into going along with whatever she dictates.
This is how things are done behind the scenes in this city, and the residents are the ones who end up suffering.
wow we have a council person among us, so that's how it works? your afraid to go against quinn and the mayor? wow now that's real sad. i thought you guys were elected by the people of your district. so when barron screams race the mayor is afraid of him and a lawsuit? because i still don't understand how he could get away with such crap. explain that one, if your allowed to or do they stop you from speaking your mind too.
Reading the comments here, I wouldnt know how she voted. I didnt vote for her or Como. I couldnt even find a lesser of 2 evils. But I can't fault her for taking a stand and voting the right way. To indict her for not swaying the city council is kinda silly. Regardless of who pops is, she is not going to sway that group of miscreants.
Again, the usual gang of suspects here attack those who do the right thing. Next they will wonder why they are so marginalized.
...now I'm just waitin to be accused of bein her submissive love slave....
"Wow, 92 racists on Queens Crap!!"
Maybe its just 92 people who dont want another thousand children on the already overcrowded bus line they ride on to get to work.
Maybe some are business people who lose customers when hundreds of kids are standing in front of their establishments.
The easiest way to prove your ignorance and lose a debate is to accuse people of being racist w/o making a single cogent argument.
The Councilwoman who presides over the area votes against the school. The Community Board 5 that works with the area votes against the school. All of the local civic associations are very strongly opposed to the school. Local residents and businesses hate the idea. Parents that are wise to the situation realize that a high school built there will be a disaster. It appears that the only people who want the school are those with vested interest, such as the Board of Ed, or people that don't represent or live in the community.
Never before have I witnessed such a sham. The purpose of the Community Board is to thoroughly investigate items like this in a manner that other government officials cant. Their recommendations should be taken very seriously. It is obvious that once a powerful group like the Board of Ed decide to do something, then all of the appearances at Town Meetings and Community Board meetings trying to look like they are working with the community is just an act.
Mark my words-the 2 'huge' concessions that Walcott made regarding the number of student reduction and the smaller size of the building will not last. Having an extra 1000 teenagers, along with the supporting network of teachers, custodians, office staff, etc all leaving the building at about the same time will create havoc in the surrounding streets. And all this for a school that will not even be for the children that live in close proximity to the school.
What a mistake.
Actually, Leroy Comrie was chairing that meeting and should have censured Barron right then and there. But because Barron's aide Viola Plummer threatened to assassinate him a few years back, Leroy was probably reluctant to do so.
"Again, the usual gang of suspects here attack those who do the right thing. Next they will wonder why they are so marginalized."
Yes, marginalized by the marginal. To prove my point why are you here? And can you name a more popular blog that covers Queens? Jackass.
And as for those who you say "do the right thing," QC attacks those bureaucrats who are corrupt, incompetent, and just plain dumb. A good example are the last three council members that represented out town of Maspeth in the NYC Council.
Gallagher: Corrupt, sexual predator and perv
Como: Illiterate lifelong bureaucrat
Crowley: Dangerously dumb, represents special interests and NOT the community.
So Crowley voted "NO" on the Maspeth HS.
We're getting a large high school in an already congested area that according to her, our kids will have a 1 out of 20 chance of getting in.
Good work Liz! Keep working on ways to fuck up our neighborhood and then have your friends and family tell us what a great job you're doing.
Actually Dizzy Dyslexia Crowley didn't intend to vote "NO" on the high school. She thought she was voting "ON" the high school. Oops.
Hell this blog is fun.
hey boys and girls just learned that lizzy has an enviromental study of the maspeth area and it failed, so why hasn't the board or civic groups told about this? she screwed us royally with the school. it states impact of traffic would be added.
Elizabeth Crowley is in the council only because of her last name. She does not deserve it. At the recent January 30th hearing of the Council Consumer Affairs Committee, she came in like she owned the place and sat near the chairman. She is not on the committee! She gave a strong silent message to the carriage drivers. "Don't worry, guys. Joe [crowley] will take care of you. He promised Tom Manton on his deathbed. We do not care if you treat your horses like crap and drive them through traffic. We want you to stay and you will. We own NYC."
Tony Avella was amazing at the hearing. See this youtube video of him questioning the representative of the DCA who did not even know the rate charged by the drivers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iqyxZETMqQ
Too many Crowleys in government. Power corrupts. Time to thin the herd.
"The easiest way to prove your ignorance and lose a debate is to accuse people of being racist w/o making a single cogent argument."
Let's just say, for example, that Black Panther Barron, in an official capacity, on the taxpayer's dime, came out and accused all opposition to the school to be racists.
Let's just pretend that this is true. That he said that all he saw were white faces who wanted segregation.
Whoa! Wait! No pretend. He did day that. And then walked out of the room. Much like a drive-by shooter.
And, now get this! He NEVER made any argument, much less a cogent argument.
So, according to ignorant Anonymous, Black Panther (cop killer) Barron is IGNORANT!
Is that your point, Anonymous? Or, did you even have a point? Were you just ranting like a moron?
This year, Council Members were assessed on the following issue areas: democracy, advancing equality, environmental justice, health, housing, and workers’ rights. Top Ten Council Members
1st Letitia James (Brooklyn, District 35)
2nd Charles Barron (Brooklyn, District 42)
3rd Tony Avella (Queens, District 19)
4th Melissa Mark-Viverito (Manhattan, District 8)
5th Rosie Mendez (Manhattan, District 2)
6th Hiram Monserrate (Queens, District 21)
7th Jessica Lappin (Manhattan, District 5)
8th John Liu (Queens, District 20)
9th David Weprin (Queens, District 23)
10th Gale Brewer (Manhattan
now this you can easily look up and noticed Mr. Barron name, lmao
i would of never guess he would be on the top 10, especially the way he carries on and talks down to people.
I remember seeing more postings on this blog. Censorship is not a Democratic. I beleive freedom of speech is in the first amendment of the US constition.
Why so sensitive?
Simple:
No Bloomberg = No School
Simple:
No Bloomberg = No School
"I remember seeing more postings on this blog. Censorship is not a Democratic. I beleive freedom of speech is in the first amendment of the US constition.
Why so sensitive?"
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Here we go again. Only tax paid entities can violate First Amendment rights by censorship.
Your tax dollars are not spent on this site except by nervous tax paid employees.
Is it censorship when you yell at your noisy neighbor to turn down the volume?
But, you are quite wrong saying that Censorship is not Democratic (in fractured English).
It is the DEMOCRATS who want to re-institute the so called "Fairness" doctrine to eliminate opposition voices on the airwaves. Who's sensitive?
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