Monday, September 15, 2008

Storm could put us under the sea

Several recent studies have suggested that global warming and an accompanying rise in ocean temperatures might increase both the strength and frequency of hurricanes. The changing climate could also result in higher sea levels.

Geography puts New York in 'danger zone' for hurricane

"Adding as little as 1.5 feet of sea level rise by the 2050s to the surge for a Category 3 hurricane on a worst-case storm track as described above would cause extensive flooding in many parts of the city," suggests Climate Systems Research at Columbia University.

"Areas potentially under water include the Rockaways, Coney Island, much of southern Brooklyn and Queens, portions of Long Island City, Astoria, Flushing Meadows-Corona Park, Queens, lower Manhattan and eastern Staten Island from Great Kills Harbor north to the Verrazano Bridge."

Sounds like exactly where all the new development is going. This was smart planning.


Anonymous said...

With rising waters and falling financial markets (Lehman & Merill collapse) "developers" ought to start building "affordable living houseboats!

EW-3 said...

According to the Argos buoys used to monitor ocean temperatures, actual ocean temperatures are NOT going up, in fact the evidence is are going down slightly.
Not one prediction from the Globull warming crowd has been accurate.

Anonymous said...

Few predictions from the
"luxury" condo sales force about
these newly built projects being sound investments have been accurate!

You're conning your buyers!

Soundly built "pre-war" stuff holds its value much better.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like this is also the fault of our dysfunctional legislature.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like this is also the fault of our dysfunctional legislature.

No, its the fault of our disfunctional preservation movement. The politicans and developers are stepping into a vacuum because the preservationists are NOT doing their job.

Anonymous said...

We should have someone post images of Galveston on QueensWest and LiqShitty.

Everytime there is a pro development posting (Rockaways, Willets Pt) we should post these images on their blogs and websites.

Like the anti-abortion folks with their images - images of this can be a powerful tool.

Anonymous said...

'"Areas potentially under water include the Rockaways, Coney Island, much of southern Brooklyn and Queens, portions of Long Island City, Astoria, Flushing Meadows-Corona Park, Queens...'

All those areas mentioned will be no great loss.

Anonymous said...

It would be absolutely devastating financially and socially.

Anonymous said...


I am curious, since you are putting it out there...can you cite us at least 3 examples (using reliable sources...I think a mix of AP and UPI for those suspecting political bias' will suffice, with weblinks) where global warming predictions have not come to pass according to experts' ETA? This is not a rhetorical question. I, myself am putting together my own anti-global warming campaign and would love to gather as much info supporting my stance as possible.


Anonymous said...

Build now, bail out later.

Anonymous said...

This is a long time coming.Certain chemicals react with the atmosphere.As far as the Lehman, Merril, and the rest to come well thats just part of an unstable economy from many years.
The British (BP) and American(standard oil) control of Iranian oil since 1953 has been a bad mistake as well that we will reap.The first major dictator Iran had was installed by operation Ajax.Its going to be hard to reach the oil off the Texas coast now.Prices will go up.

Anonymous said...

True dat!

Fuel oil pass-alongs
will be dealt out to renters, condo & co-op owners.

Somebody's got to pay for these price increases and it ain't gonna be the owner of a building!

Anonymous said...

Hey all of you "upscale" yuppies
in denial out there...
don't be so quick to put down the middle and lower classes.

You might soon find yourselves among them a lot quicker than you ever thought possible!

Fannie May, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, AIG....
where have you parked your assets ?

You'd better start learning
to browse thrift shops and look for temp-work (if there is any)!

Anonymous said...

Falling rain and failing markets....
"Dame Calamity" has thrown the greedy her double whammy !

I think that NYC will be more likely to be losing about one million of its newbie/population rather than be gaining that same amount by the year Mayor Mike? !!!

It's seems that it's no longer cost effective, except for the ultra/ultra rich, to putting down roots in the big apple any longer.

You just keep on whistling while you're walking past the graveyard!

You certainly won't be hurting
as NYC's ex mayor.

ew-3 said...

Anonymous -

Reliable sources like AP/UPI. I spent several years in the newspaper busines and can tell you they are not reliable sources.

The best thing to do is go straight to the scientific literature. The media is in the tank for global warming.

Just google on ARGOS buoys. AGW predictions are that the oceans will heat up, they are cooling down.

Google "nasa earth temps satellites", AGW predicts a heating up in the troposhere. Truth is there is none, the only higher temps are seen in urban environments. Someone tracked down quite a few of these temperature measurement stations and foudn they no longer met spec. One in particular was a few feet from the exhaust of an airconditioner. Here in MA, the official boston temperature used to be taken by the old state house in central boston. The new temperature station is at Logan airport, amid a sea of asphalt.

Think the antarctic ice sheet is melting? Google for your answer.

Even the latest report from the IPCC climate report scaled back the estimates of calamity and made the movie "Inconvenient Truth" a fictional work and not a documentary.

I send you to google as you will see reports on both sides. Use your own judgement.

But I can recommend googling for "global warming swindle". worth watching.

My prediction for this winter, cold and wet. The suns activity is very low, in fact record low levels. And when that happens the temp on earth goes down. Plus the climate gets wetter. Google: Maunder Minimum

Good luck

Dr. Engine said...

Question, when we start sinking, can we use all these right-wing global warming deniers as sandbags?

Just pile them up around the foundations of our buildings so the rest of us, who are aware of the danger might live to actually do something about it? Just a thought.

ew-3 said...

This right wing global warming denier has a BS in physics and has been a practicing scientist & engineer for 30 years.

If you bother to look it up, the planet has been cooling for the last 10 years. Quite a few scientists are actually concerned we've entered a new cooling period based on the record low level of sun spots.

Feel free to google "Sunspot climate" Or is doing your own research harder then absorbing the corporate line from the libs?

Dr. Engine said...

I think I'll absorb the corporate line and um...try to save the planet. You take your BS degree and go right on ruining it. How's that sound?