Sunday, January 31, 2021

Landlords are illegally refusing city vouchers from homeless people

 


NY1

 

It’s been more than a year since Rebeka and her family lost their apartment in Queens. Since January 2020, they have been living in a hotel — a hotel operating as a homeless shelter for families.

"This whole year has been different," Rebeka explains. "Christmas, New Year's, Thanksgiving, everything is just different."

She has two children and worked for the city until the pandemic hit the five boroughs. NY1 has changed her name to protect her family's privacy.

When we met on a cold day in December, Rebeka was carrying a large stack of papers. On it was the names and phone numbers of management companies and realtors.

"This is a prospective list that I was given by my shelter," she said. "And this is what I have been doing, making calls. I also do social media."

 Rebeka was given a list of management companies and buildings from her shelter provider that are supposed to accept her voucher. She called one of them, only to be told they only accepted Section 8. 
 

Her family’s only path out of shelter is a voucher from the city — a path that all too often is a dead end.

She calls a management company based in Long Island City.

  On the other end, they ask: "Do you have a Section 8 voucher? Are you looking for affordable housing?"


Rebeka replies: "I currently have CityFHEPS." 

"We don’t accept that here," replies the management company. It’s an exchange that is repeated again and again for Rebeka.

 Rebeka calls a realtor about an apartment in Brooklyn. He says they have income and credit requirements. 

"He is looking for 650 credit and he is also looking for about $45,000 to $50,000 annually," a realtor tells Rebeka. 


"Wait, so is he accepting vouchers at this time?" she asks.


"I sent him a message and he hasn’t gotten back to me," the realtor replies. Then he hangs up.

There are thousands of people in the city’s shelter system desperately searching for housing with the city’s rental assistance voucher known as CityFHEPS. It’s a voucher program started in October of 2018 aimed at getting people in shelter back on their feet.

A NY1 investigation found these vouchers are routinely rejected by landlords — some refusing to rent to people coming from the shelter system — discrimination that is illegal but nonetheless appears to plague the system.

The city has issued thousands of eligibility letters to homeless people to show landlords that they can use the voucher to get an apartment. But statistics exclusively obtained by NY1 show just a fraction of these families actually get housing every month.

For the first 10 months of 2019, on average every month, about 4,118 families with children in shelter had an eligibility letter to entice landlords into the voucher program. On average in that time period, only about 178 of those families found an apartment every month — a tiny slice of those potentially eligible.

Since it started in October 2018, the city says a significant number of households exit shelter and enter permanent housing every year with CityFHEPS. Through September 2020, 6,490 households have moved into an apartment.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

I really feel for the kids in this situation, city has to really drop the hammer on these landlords

Anonymous said...

This problem will never end until the city starts to address the root causes of the problem.

Why is it that landlords don’t want to accept the vouchers? Shouldn’t guaranteed income entice people to accept the tenants? Answer: some percentage of the tenants are a nightmare and will ruin your place and/or make life miserable for the other tenants, if you happen to have more than one unit. It will take forever to evict the problem tenant, and you may lose good ones in the meantime. If you have a destructive tenant, the amount it costs to make the place habitable after they leave is not worth what the city is paying.

So you end up with mostly slumlords willing to take the vouchers. And then good section 8 tenants end up suffering in crappy apartments.

As with most things, the city fails to treat people according to their specific situation. People who are down on their luck but responsible deserve help and a decent place to live. They should get vouchers. But landlords shouldn’t be forced to take problem tenants just because the city gives them a voucher.


Anonymous said...

I lived in an apartment building that over the years rented to more & more single mother families with these vouchers. Thanks to them the quality of life disintegrated quickly and began the destruction of a once beautiful & wonderful neighborhood. They made an ugly ghetto. Unfortunately- what these women often do is move in their boyfriends who are sometimes but not always their children’s fathers. These men’s income are not on their budget nor is the boyfriend- partner on the lease - this is how they scam the system. Generally these men are either unemployed or unemployable - they hang around & deal drugs, become pimps, loanshark & make themselves pains in the ass. Do you want them as neighbors? I didn’t- they made the building very unsafe with their customers coming & going 24/7

Anonymous said...

Its not that slumlords don't want a CityFHEPS or Sec 8. Its the fact its a single mother with 2 kids. She likely will never work, and once those kids register in the local school, destroy the apartment, she loses vouchers the landlord is screwed and stuck with them.
Most single mothers with kids are destructive and big BIG trouble. Also: Next thing you know different problem males are also in the apartment.

Anonymous said...

Shouldn’t guaranteed income entice people to accept the tenants?
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It really is not guaranteed !
If the tenant is an asshole, destroys the place, isn't disabled and refuses to show they are attempting to work they lose that section 8 and the landlord is stuck with them.
Lots of things a tenant can do to lose that section 8, the city can also go bankrupt.

Anonymous said...

I am sad to see kids in need. However, I also understand the landlords. At this point of time in uncertainty, the landlords don't even know how long it will take the city to pay for them or if the city will ever pay for them each and every single month. The state in general is broke and the only thing that is keeping it going is the ones who are still working and the people with gambling addictions. This poor woman lost her job through the city and that doesn't make it look any better on a landlords point of view. That would just tell me as a landlord that the city is in REALLY bad shape if its laying off their workers and now their OWN workers are now homeless. Mayor dumbdumb still has his job and I think he should have been fired LONG ago. So I do see both sides of the fence on this one and hope that things get better for people who are now homeless due to job loss. And let's face it, it doesn't help that the city harbors so many illegal people here either because the majority of them that do work, dont pay into the tax system and they take more funding than they give out. Not to mention that they send all the majority of their money out of this country. Nyc was a disaster waiting to happen. And now I believe its really on its last leg.

Anonymous said...

Meh. I don't feel bad for the renters. Where I work I see the utter damage and disrespect people on section 8 or housing vouchers do to their apartments and buildings they live in.

They break everything for fun, demand it gets fixed immediately and call the city to complain, dump garbage everywhere, and generally have no respect for where they live. I don't fault the landlords for not wanting these people. The cost of constant repairs, maintenance, and cleaning; plus in a best case scenario taking years to carry out an eviction on problem tenants just isn't worth it. I don't blame them.

Ned said...

""This poor woman lost her job through the city"
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Not so fast!!
Remember the media never tells the whole story and this woman doesn't give her name to fact check. Its hearsay and likely bullshit "poor me I'm a victim" "the landlord is racists"
The article does not say why she lost that job, that could be anything.
Gambling, drugs, booze, cant work, fighting with co workers, many different reasons.
Yes you can bet the kids will be destructive juvenile delinquents and a large thug male (always for protection and extra money) will soon move in with her after she establishes residency in the building. Then the landlord and all the tenants are screwed with problems.

I see these people in the bodega's & gas stations buying cheap food with a SNAP NY State EBT cards, then go and hand $80 in cash for numbers or scratch lottery tickets.
This behavior proceeds near EVERY time a NY State EBT card is used

-Ned
www.nra.org

Anonymous said...

"Harbors so many illegal people"
They're not illegal people, they're "International Americans" !

Anonymous said...

@ Ned said... Looking like communism already 'round here lately.

Anonymous said...

"International Americans"

You my friend deserve a few beers for this excellent line!

Congrats!

Anonymous said...

Looking like communism already 'round here lately.

Yep. The Bolshevik coup took place on January 6th, 2021.

Gino said...

"International Americans" and poor single moms with kids my ass.
After 1000's of hours stripping layers of paint, having custom router bits milled to recreate exact moldings, windows & trim, brass hardware, fixtures, doors damaged by slobs to restore my 1920 Ridgewood Stier home no way will I have this shit.
They aint getting in.

Section 8 people are all problematic destructive pigs with no respect for anything including other people. Restoring a house once is enough work and expense even when your a contractor.
Id rather have a rooster and 8 chicken's in a room then an "International American" or worse a section 8 case
All my customer landlords also feel this way.

If you have a vacant apartment and must rent to pay bills keep your mouth shut and go through private means, references, background checks, credit history's, base income salary's to cover your ass. When the slobs and social workers hear the requirements to get into a private home they disappear.
The big problem is real estate agency's cant be selective out of fear they will get hit with a discrimination claim. A private homeowner who resides in the building not listing in public can weed out the garbage and be selective.

-Gee

Anonymous said...

"The Bolshevik coup took place on January 6th, 2021."
Imagine thinking a guy who has been in politics all his life wouldn't lie to you.

Anonymous said...

"The Bolshevik coup"
Read my Lips "$2000 checks for everybody !
There should be a Yelp page for politicians.

Vote for us and we lie to you as good as the next politician

Sheeple: done ☑️

Anonymous said...

Its not that slumlords don't want a CityFHEPS or Sec 8. Its the fact its a single mother with 2 kids. She likely will never work, and once those kids register in the local school, destroy the apartment, she loses vouchers the landlord is screwed and stuck with them.
Most single mothers with kids are destructive and big BIG trouble. Also: Next thing you know different problem males are also in the apartment.

Interesting point....then how about men not be such scumbags either and actually marry the women they knock up? Most men these days have no moral values at all. Stop sleeping with every single bimbo that has a pulse or atleast wrap up your stuff if you dont want anymore single mothers on the streets. Men can definitely keep their dicks in their pants.

Anonymous said...

Imagine thinking a guy who has been in politics all his life wouldn't lie to you.

Cannot.

Ned said...

Stop sleeping with every single bimbo that has a pulse
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No-- most these sec 8 and SNAP card woman WANT more kids.
You must be a young liberal so let me s'plain and teach you some facts the communists banned schools, teachers, books and TV from talking about years ago.

Pregnancy = Automatic Medicaid, more free money, services, special protections and perpetual excuse not to work.
2-Spread your legs to street thug scumbags for protection and intimidation against the landlord and other tenants that don't want you living around them.

Now for that protection by thug aspect:
In many cases when the pimp or male moves in and crime or destructive activity starts the female loses that section 8. Now since residency is established, kids in school the city will do everything possible to cut section 8 funding and "stick them" on the landlords wallet.
The landlord is now stuck with the rent loss, the utility's and 3-5 year eviction process not including all the destruction of the apartment and trouble that's going to start.
In NYC a sheriff can not do a physical eviction when children are involved unless a shelter and school placement is available and that could be years at the current time.
These section 8 dweller experts know all this, Its called working the system.

You cant blame the landlords. I think the city wants all landlords bankrupt, in pain so it can take over and re-assign private buildings. And that's part of the socialist redistribution of wealth agenda.

-Ned
www.nra.org

Anonymous said...

"Most single mothers" should close up shop !

Anonymous said...

Not allowing the fake DOB Deblabio task force in 231 times !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJD7KvS1HDY&ab_channel=JUSTENOUGHHESHY

Anonymous said...

Don't worry, Creepy Joe will just sign another executive order to fix it.

georgetheatheist said...

@ Gino and Ned. A Chinese American landlord friend of mine advertises his vacant rental apartment only in the Chinese language World Journal. He has always gotten an upstanding rental clientele. Gabeesh?