Saturday, January 23, 2021

Homeless man prefers freezing elements and cold concrete than warmer but more dangerous city shelter

 Man refuses help, remains on street 1

Queens Chronicle

A homeless man underneath the train tracks at Myrtle Avenue and Fresh Pond Road in Glendale, only a block from the Community Board 5 office, has been refusing help for weeks, area leaders say.

Myrtle Avenue Business Improvement District Executive Director Ted Renz called his presence there “an ongoing issue.”

Community members say the man, Pawel, has refused help.

The Rev. Mike Lopez of All Saints Church said the city has done some cleanups of the man’s belongings but that area residents continue to bring him food, money, coats and blankets.

“I think it comes out of a good place from people who don’t want to see him get hurt,” Lopez told the Chronicle Tuesday. “He’s a rather charming gentleman if you’ve ever had the opportunity to deal with him.”

But the residents might be hurting more than helping.

“Our hope is to bring them indoors. As long as they’re being supported with their needs it makes it much harder to bring them off the street,” Lopez said of homeless people, though he acknowledged telling residents not to help “is almost impossible.”

Lopez has known the man for five years. Lopez said Pawel, who is in his mid-40s, was a working member of the community, a carpenter by trade, who became homeless three years ago.

Lopez said Pawel has family but declined to discuss that any further.

“He knows his rights,” Lopez said. “He knows he can’t be forced away.”

Accepting outreach efforts is voluntary. In accordance with the state Mental Hygiene Law, street homeless New Yorkers cannot be involuntarily removed from the streets unless they pose a danger to themselves or others.

A spokesperson for the city’s Department of Homeless Services said nonprofit service provider Breaking Ground canvasses the area more than 20 times a week and actively engages 24 verified homeless individuals encountered on the streets in an effort to offer them services and get them indoors.

“As the weather gets colder, our outreach teams continue to be out across the five boroughs, implementing best practices, latest health guidance and Code Blue protocols whenever appropriate, as they engage unsheltered New Yorkers and encourage them to accept services,” DHS said.

Councilman Bob Holden (D-Middle Village) told the Chronicle he visited Pawel with his chief of staff, Daniel Kurzyna. Holden said he stayed back as Kurzyna, who speaks Polish, approached him.

“We don’t want to gang up on him,” Holden said. “Dan said he looked white as a sheet.”

The lawmaker wants to see the city invoke Kendra’s Law, which allows courts to order certain individuals with serious mental illness to stay in treatment for up to a year.

“I didn’t examine him but it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that if this man would rather live under the trestle than be in a warm room then he can’t make rational decisions,” Holden said, adding, “Obviously it’s the wrong decision to pick being outside in 20 degree weather.”

But Lopez said Pawel has had bad experiences in shelters.

“They feel that it’s safer to be on the street and they wanted to be connected locally to their communities and I think that’s one of the reasons he stays,” Lopez said.

The reverend believes the city needs to improve its shelter system.

“Can you imagine choosing to live on the streets of New York City in January over a shelter because it’s unsafe?” Lopez said.

CB 5 Chairman Vinny Arcuri said Pawel told him “he’s just waiting to die.”

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Homeless shelters are like an extension of prison but with apt more mentally insane.

At least in prison there are some go getters or young men that have their marbles together.

There are so many smelly, deranged K2 smoking men homeless shelters.

You can see why some people choose to live in the streets

#maleprivilege

Anonymous said...

Better to die free! Sort of!

Anonymous said...

He can't be forced away? What happened to the nyc vagrants laws? Do they still exist.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the nyc vagrants laws?

What happened to common sense? You would like to force people against their will?

Adolf Hitler is your mentor?

Anonymous said...

Forcing him to move is an act of violence

warp10 said...

So they can arrest protestors on the basis that they're obstructing the sidewalk, but they can't remove the homeless for the same reason?

Why is this so difficult. Send the mentally ill to mental institutions, send the normal people to shelters, and if someone does something criminal, send them to jail. Rocket science, apparently.

Anonymous said...

What happened to common sense? You would like to force people against their will?

Yes, because he is unable to take care of himself. And we have a duty to take care of our most vulnerable.

Do you know how many families there are like mine who have someone who is mentally ill and refuses to get help? When there is no help to be had and you have to watch them go downhill until they are homeless, cold, sick, beaten up in shelters, robbed. With dry skin patches and swollen knees. Ankles and feet that are incredibly swollen. Teeth rotting and falling out.

Wishing and praying that they mention one, just one, suicidal thought in their ramblings so that you can try to get them held for three days so they can go on medication and start getting better?

So yes, I do wish that we could hold people like this against their will until they can get help and get their life together. Get to a point in their life that they can be safe and healthy and make rational choices.

Wouldn't you want the same if this man was your father, brother, son, uncle, grandfather? Or would you rather this life for him?

Anonymous said...

Can't blame them... City shelters are likely covid virus spreaders.

Anonymous said...

Re open Creedmore, and other mental hospitals. They can make them decent places for people.

Anonymous said...

Creedmore is open !

Anonymous said...

@warp10 said... "Yes Rocket science, apparently !"
Most New Yorkers picked/voted for the Electurds who are making these terrible decisions and now we have to vote them out. All of them !!!

Anonymous said...

Most New Yorkers picked/voted for the Electurds who are making these terrible decisions and now we have to vote them out. All of them !!!

Zero proof to that. Now that we know elections are rigged and no one is ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT the cat is out of the bag.

Yes, vote them out, but better yet TERM LIMITS! NOW! to all senators, congressmen, mayors, governors. All of them. We have an older crew in Washington DC than the Soviet Politburo was. Shame, shame, shame.

Nanzi, Chuckie, business is good darlings? Presidents come and go, but you lovely people are there for ow many decades now? You call this a "democracy"? what a joke.