Monday, December 5, 2022

City Council members call for caucus on crime with fellow electeds

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Queens Post

Three Queens council members who are members of the Commonsense Caucus say their legislative colleagues are out of touch when it comes to tackling crime and have called on them to get tough on improving public safety.

Council members Bob Holden, Vickie Paladino and Joann Ariola want their fellow lawmakers to take a hardline approach to crime which they say is spiraling out of control. Major crime in New York City is up nearly 27.5 percent this year compared to the same time last year, according to police data.

The lawmakers told the Queens Post last month that residents are living in fear with many afraid to walk the streets or take the subway— such is the severity of the situation. Others have left the city altogether, according to Holden.

The caucus members say it’s time for city and state lawmakers to start sticking up for law-abiding citizens by taking legislative action, engaging with their local police precincts and calling out crimes in their districts when they see them.

“I lived through the 70s and 80s and we’re going back to that,” said Holden, a Democrat who represents the 30th Council District in central Queens.

“My constituents are all worried. My wife, who is Asian American, will not set foot in the subway.”

The lawmakers argue that much of the city’s crime spike can be attributed to what they call “far-left policies” such as bail reform laws, the denigration of the police and their powers, as well progressive district attorney’s not prosecuting crimes.

These policies, the caucus members claim, have empowered criminals and led them to believe they won’t get punished. Many crimes, the lawmakers say, are caused by repeat offenders.

“It’s out of control because it’s absolute lawlessness,” said Paladino, a Republican who represents the 19th Council District in northeast Queens.

“If you don’t have a city that backs their cops or wants to do anything to change it then that’s a problem. And then we have our District Attorneys who aren’t doing their jobs either, they’re not prosecuting so it’s a turnstile system and it’s failing miserably.”

Many crimes too, the lawmakers argue, are being carried out by the mentally ill who they say should be forced to get treatment. Instead, many of these people are sleeping in the subways and roaming the streets putting residents at risk, the caucus members say.

However, many progressive lawmakers challenge this narrative and say that the city is in not in the midst of a crime wave.

They say that murders are in fact down by more than 12 percent from this time last year– and that crime is down compared to the Giuliani and Bloomberg years of the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Furthermore, they say that the rate of defendants being released under bail reform and then violently reoffending has seen little change since the reforms went into effect at the beginning of 2020. The rate went from 3 percent in 2019—prior to the reforms—to 4 percent in 2021, according to a report issued by the state Division of Criminal Justice Services.

Additionally, progressive Councilmember Tiffany Cabán has played down concerns about subway attacks, tweeting in September that violence on the system is a “one-in-a-million event.” She said that while the attacks were concerning, “let’s not let fear-mongering politicians and corporate media outlets scare us into thinking we have a dangerous, scary public transit system.”

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is too much Commie ideology over evidence ! NY is toast.
Prove me Wrong...

Anonymous said...

Same three clowns have no problem voting for a criminal to be president.

Anonymous said...

So long as crime continues to skyrocket and illegal people continue to flood into New York, the occasional assault on a tax payer won’t change anything. It’s baked into the system at this point. Lee Zeldin was the city’s last hope.

Anonymous said...

Listen to Me said...
The voters of New York had a chance to change the lawlessness in their state and cities and the voted like they always do. If you live in New York and didn't vote well you wanted this to so live with it. Just sorry for the people who voted for a change and got out voted and can not afford to leave.

Anonymous said...

It's ridiculous that Justice has become a revolving door for criminals. And the "insane" should be institutionalized.

Anonymous said...

Most demOrat "leaders" and their Sheeple contend that there is no crime.

Anonymous said...

Nothing will change as long as you have Andrea Stewart Cousins, Carl Heastie & the hapless Kathy Hochul calling the shots. They all support criminals along with Alvin Bragg.

Ronald A. Fisher said...

Additionally, progressive Councilmember Tiffany Cabán has played down concerns about subway attacks, tweeting in September that violence on the system is a “one-in-a-million event.” She said that while the attacks were concerning, “let’s not let fear-mongering politicians and corporate media outlets scare us into thinking we have a dangerous, scary public transit system.”

“one-in-a-million event.”

These innumerate progressive dolts also believe that cops are shooting dead dozens of unarmed black men every day, and prisons are full with 20-year olds serving 30 year sentences for selling dime bags.

Anonymous said...

@“ So long as crime continues to skyrocket and illegal people continue to flood into New York,”

Well, that’s been the way since 1492. That’s how you got here.

Ned said...

“I lived through the 70s and 80s and we’re going back to that”

Has Bob Holden gone nuts or senile?
Allow me to refresh his memory and add some facts
Whats going on now is far worse then anything that went on in the 70s. At least in the 70s cops and judges could lock people up.
Now a thug juvenile or otherwise can attack, beat and kick an innocent person in a train car and be issued a disappearance ticket and be out of jail in 1 hour, no bail, no nothing. Remember now the doors between train cars are locked, if you get cornered between stations your locked in and on your own. Especially if they are black. It just happened 2 times this week. One thug told the police "I did it, F~CK YOU SO WHAT" He was issued a ticket and back out on the streets in hour and a half. The 70 or so year old man who was drenched in blood, bleeding out is still in the hospital with a scull fracture.

It seams its always a black who commit these violent acts of crime, yet DA Bragg and all these democrats tell the police "just de-escalate the situation and leave blacks alone"
This is fact I'm not being racist
What the hell is this, Police, local district DAs, Prosecutors and judges all wearing the handcuffs and blindfolds so these bastards can kill, rob beat innocent people going work or shopping to take care of their family's?
Look on TV "Have you seen this person contact the police"---Yeah 9 times out of 10 its always a black repeat offender let out of jail again with a long record.
These are facts Mr.Holden and all you democrat dummys!!
We are currently far past and beyond the worst of the 1970s and its getting worse, and spare us the mayors and police commissioners rigged crime-states!!
When the police are not allowed to charge people with crime, crimes decriminalized limiting arrests and prosecution counts as no crime, we are not stupid !!
This police commissioner and Mayor need to shove their technically rigged crime-stats and spins up each others assholes.

If the cops are gonna be in handcuffs older citizens should at least be allowed to carry guns, especially if they are elderly and have no chance against some prison experienced thug let loose for the 5th or more time.
Now, Robbery, Murders and Rapes in your own home?
That and average one cop per week shot wasn't on TV everyday day in the 1970s
This shit don't happen much in Texas, where thugs get blown away and gone.
Our Reps need to fight more to end the unreasonable restrictions that prevent innocent older people with no criminal history to get gun permits Mr.Holden. When the bad guys don't know whos packing and who NOT crime stops or is severely culled.

Many violent crimes and EVERY mass shooting that was stopped in this country were accomplished by ordinary citizens who had guns...Not the police.
Thats also a fact. Find me one shooting or home invasions that was actually prevented by the police, gun laws and not an armed citizen.
You wont !

-Ned

Anonymous said...

Council District 19 is having a problem with cars that are parked on the street having their windows smashed and their airbags stolen. And we thought it was just catalytic converters!

Anonymous said...

So where are Kagan, Jennaro, Vernicov, Yegar, Gionis, Bordeli Cabrera and Carr?

Anonymous said...

prisons are full with 20-year olds serving 30 year sentences for selling dime bags.
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That's a myth created by the woke to get support for more crap reform.
, prisons are 99 % hardcore violent bastards.
Nobody goes to jail for a dime bag of pot, not even an ounce or 8 ball of coke first of 2nd offense for the past 20 years.
Stop bullshitting us!

That was a Nixon era thing from back in the good days. Nixon hated drugs, liberals and democrats. Had Nixon had his way he would have executed every pimp, drug smuggler and dealer rather then court cost, jail, feed, and healthcare them on taxpayer dole.

Anonymous said...

Let the crime rates soar. Who cares about the garbage that lives in nyc anymore? They voted for it so let them suffer.

Anonymous said...

Additionally, progressive Councilmember Tiffany Cabán has played down concerns about subway attacks, tweeting in September that violence on the system is a “one-in-a-million event.” She said that while the attacks were concerning, “let’s not let fear-mongering politicians and corporate media outlets scare us into thinking we have a dangerous, scary public transit system.”

“one-in-a-million event.”

These innumerate progressive dolts also believe that cops are shooting dead dozens of unarmed black men every day, and prisons are full with 20-year olds serving 30 year sentences for selling dime bags.

Right? The whole thing is comical. They should tell that to the mta workers who have to see all of this and deal with it. And then there is the racist news media who only report when a black man is killed by a "white police officer" but never show it when they are killed by a black officer or when a white officer kills a white criminal. The dumbocrats are in such denial about the whole system. And the dumbocrats and news media fuel the hate by allowing these organizations to be coddled and giving them attention. And let's wait to see what happens when they close rikers....what a joke that will be. At this point of time, let nyc shoot themselves in the foot, they voted for this garbage. So when babies are getting shot in the streets by some thug who was just released from prison for the 25th time, then they shouldn't go on camera crying "my baby, my baby" when they are the ones who voted for it.

Anonymous said...

Nothing to see here. Move along

Signed Guv KH

Anonymous said...

How's that new Crime Law thing Going???

Anonymous said...

NYC man stabbed to death during fight sparked by request for a cigarette.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/07/man-24-stabbed-to-death-during-nyc-fight-over-cigarette-cops/

Sounds normal to me. Escape from New York was a real movie about the FUTURE of New York Post Hoschul Zeldin election

Anonymous said...

All this crime is fake news. It’s a witch hunt by Murdoch and the NY Post. Everyone is saying it.

Anonymous said...

As illegals radiate from the southern border more Crime will emanate.
Biden Literally Doesn't Care About the US Border Crisis.

Anonymous said...

As illegals radiate from the southern border more Crime will emanate
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Yup, most overweight, out of shape, can not read or write in any language, terrible alcohoaism and diets much worse then we see here.
I doubt they can work in a car wash, cant hang sheetrock, work construction because reading rulers, codes, schematics or simple math is out of the question. Maybee their kids 20 years from now will have reading, science and math abiliety but no way can this new batch support themsleves or afford New York.
Some are already claiming America owes them for stealing what was once Mexico, blaim us because they refuse birth control and cant feed their huge familys.

Most will turn to crime when the goverment handouts run out.
I think the shit mayor knows this and has started to panic, his solution is to set a landlords rent prices, do away with zoning (and public input) and for the real cherry on the cake force Long Island to build more affordable housing and force homowners to take section 8, crazy people and criminals with long records.
Is this Ukraine 1960 or America?

Anonymous said...

Bring back the electric chair said...
Criminals are a protected class now. California had just ruled yesterday that an armed robber may legally kill their victim in self defense if the victim puts up a fight.

Anonymous said...

As illegals radiate from the southern border more Crime will emanate
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Evil does indeed exist in this fallen world. Children including unborn children are the most vulnerable and innocent among us.

Anonymous said...

Sheeple this is no joke. Remember in the 1980s when Mario Cuomo refused to execute cop killers? Well look what happened: Decades later his son Andrew became Governor and what did he do? He releases the same cop killers his dad refused to execute, almost 18 in total, AND when it happened he didn't tell the families of the dead cop.

Ned said...

Quote: "California had just ruled yesterday that an armed robber may legally kill their victim in self defense if the victim puts up a fight"

I think that's been on the books in Ca for a wile, that was just another Woke DA who dont wanna see young black people in jail for long periods such as murder unless absolutely what these crazy liberals deem necessary.
In gun safety school the rule in general is to claim self defense you have to shoot the asshole wile he's threatening to kill you or shoots first. And in commie states like New York and California that apply s if your cornered and cant getaway (retreat first, no window to jump out, no-place to hide, safe-room etc)
Once the crook is out the door or retreats a victim of a property crime cannot then use deadly force to reclaim stolen property"
I don't know what California did, I don't consider California or San Fransisco part of America. California a cesspool of mixed rotting frutes and nuts

-Ned
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