Uh oh...
When you run a bar, it's wise to hire licensed security and not to serve alcohol to minors or intoxicated patrons.
Whoops.And I must say, the clientele along Bell Blvd has changed, and not for the better.
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25 comments:
Uh Oh.
I guess were not playing Thursday night.
Thanks for the info Crappy
Bell is a mixed bag, mook troublemakers from the 'Burbs at night -locals and workers in the offices during the day.
Violence is a recent arrival, my partner told me of a cop being shot and killed at a bar/restaurant near the LIRR back in the '90s. The cops then staked out the place and constantly checked ID's of those entering until they drove the place out of business (was the place called "Taste the Apple"?).
Problem is that over the last 6-7 years there seems to be a trend toward what are called "binge bars" the reason for that title is obvious when you are in one of these places, that trend has caught up with Bell blvd.
the transit cop (off duty) and his ex-con buddy hit the bar bouncer over the head with a beer bottle.the 111 th pct.was called and they let the attackers walk away.
the bouncer drove to jackson heights got his weapons and went looking for his attackers at other bars on the blvd. when he found them he shot them.
he was convicted and probably is still in prison. the killing caused a police crack down on the blvd.bars. there were rumors of a mob connected bar and many off duty n.y.p.d. employee's partying.
alcohol,testosterone,violent character results in tragedy.
The yellow sign seems like this could be the result of a bankruptcy claim. It wouldn't be so surprising today.
The yellow sign is what contains the info I put in the post. Click on it to blow it up larger.
I see. Thanks for pointing that out.
There are still a few problems, I think. 1) The handwriting on the sign was done by 2 different people which would bring into question the comment's authenticity. 2) A hand written comment(s) on an official document is suspect. 3) It wouldn't stand to reason to have such a statement made after the fact of a court ruling. The particulars of a case would be available to the public. To my knowledge, publicly shaming lawbreakers isn't a NYC policy.
I know absolutely nothing about this particular bar or how it operated. I do know, having been a Bayside resident of many years, the animosity towards such establishments on Bell Blvd. and the the likes of its quite vocal and oftentimes irrational opponents.
"2) A hand written comment(s) on an official document is suspect."
Oh brother, you must never have seen one of these stickers before.
As for "public shaming" when a food handling facility is closed by the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene a sticker stating such is affixed to the front door, though no specific violations are posted.
Handwriting on signs looks the same to me.
Bell...or should I say "BAR" Boulevard on Friday nights is a howling hoot!
Horny "Bay Club" women looking to get lucky and marauding young drunks.
Not exactly a sign of stability in a neighborhood...is it?
And the commercial establishment vacancy rate seems to be increasing.
You should look at the crew that hangs around the "Habana Hut" cigar lounge...across the street from Donovan's...real Klass...with a cap "K"!
Looks like some old Ozone Park "boys" have their own alternative to Gotti's infamous Bergen Fish & Hunt Club.
Some BS here.
More then one of the bars are co owned by n.y.p.d. employee's, former employees.
Many of the bouncers ARE cops.
Yes they drink **OF DUTY** and that's not against the law !
There is rarely trouble in the places they frequent, the patrons know the deal.
What happened was some midwest trust fund Merchant Marine academy Yahoos decided to go an a boozed filled rampage and got there asses kicked outside 7-11.
One is the 20 YO son of a Indiana senator
That's what this is about.
Look closely at each letter and you'll see distinct differences in pattern, QC. Letters; E, N, Q and S especially. Between the two signs, I would say it's very likely three different people were involved in the writing.
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Lino said...
"2) A hand written comment(s) on an official document is suspect."
Oh brother, you must never have seen one of these stickers before.
As for "public shaming" when a food handling facility is closed by the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene a sticker stating such is affixed to the front door, though no specific violations are posted.
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Oh, you mean an official document like this from the DoH & MH, Mr. Lino?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4446015966_db54f10c6b.jpg
It's logical to conclude shaming works when the establishment has an opportunity to conduct business again (fines are paid and issues addressed), as in the case for a food vendor being temporarily shut for repeated violations. However, if there's an official sign (and I'm questioning this as well) that states no equipment is allowed off the premises (suggesting a creditor collection issue), one can draw the conclusion that the business is in default and will not be conducting business again.
If I'm not mistaken, Court orders on businesses are enforced by federal marshals, not the NYPD. In this particular location, that would be the 111th Precinct.
"if there's an official sign (and I'm questioning this as well) that states no equipment is allowed off the premises (suggesting a creditor collection issue), one can draw the conclusion that the business is in default and will not be conducting business again."
Wrong, that simply points to ongoing investigation and seeks to preclude third party vendors from removing equipment that may be involved in activities conducted at the location. Typical cases involve coin-operated devices that may be involved in gambling (Joker poker etc)as well as office computers and anything with business records (electronic cash registers and menu units) even, well, beds in the case of a cat house. It is a generic sticker.
Doesn't newly elected Councilman Dan Halloran own a bar around here?
Can someone please elaborate on this or correct me if I'm wrong.
Well....Dan did hold a beer blast at the Ft. Totten officers' club.
Was it his victory blast?
That wasn't beer.
It was "Libertarian (Club) liquor"... unless his tea-baggers got thee first and threw a dry tea party. (LOL)!
The guy from Dougliston ?
Uncle Jack’s I believe but its more a steakhouse
Lino wrote: "Wrong,..."
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We may both be wrong. But I doubt it. Nothing on those signs indicates a verdict in the court case was given or that the case is still pending. I assumed it was a done deal, you an open investigation. In light of Joe's information, if there's inter-state politics involved, you know something stinks. So I wonder what equipment or property they would need to be secured to aid an investigation for serving a minor, serving intoxicated patrons, unreasonable noise, or unlicensed security? Bookkeeping records? Please.
But I know it pleases you so to crack my nuts, my QC antagonist. So I'll keep arguing till I'm bored with you.
Monahan & Fitzgerald being the worst along with Brews Bros and a bunch of other bars are filled to the brim with underage kids on Thur-Sat nights. Bunch of punks too..
The police need to do more since the state liquor authority does a crap job of enforcing state laws
"So I wonder what equipment or property they would need to be secured to aid an investigation for serving a minor, serving intoxicated patrons, unreasonable noise, or unlicensed security? Bookkeeping records? Please."
"klink" Give it a rest will ya, this is a generic sticker put up by some Civil Servant to secure a scene where an investigation is taking place.
Really, get a life.
Lino wrote:
""klink" Give it a rest will ya,..."
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Now what kind of fun what that be?
Really, get a life.
That's really rich coming from you, Lino.
...and so is the "give it a rest."
Take some of your own advice, Lino.
Guess everyone should head to "Local" on Bell. Ladies night 10-2 on thursdays.
"Klink Cannoli said...
Lino wrote:
""klink" Give it a rest will ya,..."
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"Now what kind of fun what that be?"
I'am talking about the article..not your hand.
They were raided a few weeks back for having way too many underage drinkers.
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