Tuesday, May 18, 2010

New Jersey city gives ID cards to illegal aliens

From the NY Times:

Since moving to this city from her native Guatemala a decade ago, Herlinda, an illegal immigrant, has supported her family with restaurant work, but has had no way of proving that she lives here. Without government-issued photo identification, like a driver’s license or a passport, she said, she could not get treatment at most medical clinics, borrow a book from the library, pick up a package from a mail center or cash a check.

But this month she discovered a solution: a community identification card issued by a coalition of civic groups and endorsed by Trenton and Mercer County officials.

“When you don’t have a proper ID, they can humiliate you,” said Herlinda, 43, as she waited in the offices of a church where the cards were being issued. “I feel I belong in Trenton.”

As a new law in Arizona makes the failure to carry immigration documents a crime and spurs similar proposals in other states, Trenton is one of a small but growing number of municipalities that have moved in the opposite direction — making sure that illegal immigrants have documents to make their lives easier.


Why would we want to make life easier for people who breached the security of our country, states and cities?

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

these new jersey civic coalitions and trenton /mercer county officials are traitors to the U.S.A.

Arizona citizens have spoken out because the federal government is violating the Constitution . about nine additional states are supporting the Arizona patriots.

Sen. Spector (the new democrat) from Pa. is on his way out of government for not listening to his electorate .

REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER.

Anonymous said...

Because they are mindless tweeds voting for the Democratic Machine clubhouse.

Joe said...

Its not just the Democrat's

The The Vatican wants a piece of these 30 million parasites, its bankrolling Catholic Charieties to set uiep these coalitions in its communty centers. They give these criminals lawyers and hideouts too

Anonymous said...

Didn't know my Hungarian Grandfather was a crook when he jumped ship. Oh wait, he had very, very white skin - must have been honest.

Lino said...

"Sen. Spector (the new democrat) from Pa. is on his way out of government for not listening to his electorate .
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER."

Hey old fool, did you notice that Spector's challenger is Joe Sestak a democrat with what can best be described as moderate-Liberal record:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Sestak

For the uninitiated, this old fool poster is practicing the typical bullshit, half-truth-equals-lie tactic that akk of those right wing talk hosts use to fool the fools.

Yeah, do remember in November.

Anonymous said...

Does that entitle them to pay taxes?

Anonymous said...

These organizations and folks who issue should be prosecuted for enabling and abetting crime and terrorism.

Anonymous said...

While I don't agree that we should ratify illegal behavior, if we are not willing to do the right thing and deport, we should at least make it easier for cops to determine who people are when they are arrested.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter. They're not worth the paper they're printed on, right? What does this card get you-- free access to all the valuable and important services provided by the City of Trenton? Have you been to Trenton lately? Seen any pictures of 1945 Berlin??

Klink Cannoli said...

Lino Wrote:
"Hey old fool, did you notice that Spector's challenger is Joe Sestak a democrat with what can best be described as moderate-Liberal record:

For the uninitiated, this old fool poster is practicing the typical bullshit, half-truth-equals-lie tactic that akk of those right wing talk hosts use to fool the fools.

Yeah, do remember in November."
===============================

A fool in the rain
Is Lino again.

I guess you didn't happen to notice the other 2 Republicans, the Constitutionalist, Libertarian or Indep. American running for the Specter seat, Lino.

Describing Sestak as a moderate-Liberal just shows how out of touch and radical your political views must be.

Projection is an interesting psychological mechanism. Familiarize yourself with it. You use it quite often whenever you sense the fear and the impending defeat of your ideologues near.

Anonymous said...

Why are some churches supporting illegal immigrants? Because they need new followers.

Anonymous said...

If your Hungarian father jumped ship, he broke the law. Look up illegal in the dictionary and get a clue!

Anonymous said...

“I feel I belong in Trenton.”
------------------------------

But you still don't.

No Fan of Lino! said...

If you seek enlightenment from the screeds of Lino,
Don’t waste your time; you’re better off talking to a Wino!


Give 'em hell Cannoli!

Anonymous said...

I am against illegal aliens but I want to make a point that is bothering me:

Half of New York City residents don't pay taxes because they are below a given threshold. I don't think illegals make above the threshold either so they would not have to pay if they were legally on a payroll either.

Another point is that illegals primarily are taking the jobs that people on welfare are to lazy to do.

What happens if the government says 'Minimum $50,000 fine for every time an illegal is paid in lieu of legally paying someone here legally' and they strictly enforced it? No more illegal problem, they go where the jobs are.

Anonymous said...

How did we all survive before the Mexicans came here in droves? We don't need them one iota! We can and will survive. VIVA ARIZONA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lino said...

"Describing Sestak as a moderate-Liberal just shows how out of touch and radical your political views must be."

Klink-klank-klunk. Still trying the role of faux intellect?

For those too lazy or clueless to eve cut'n paste, here are the facts:

"Abortion

Sestak is pro-choice, holding a 0% rating from the National Right to Life Committee and a 100% rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America.[13] NARAL has endorsed Sestak in the Democratic primary over Specter because of Sestak's opposition to a ban on Partial-Birth Abortion"

He voted for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (the Stimulus) and the Tax Extenders and Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2008.

Sestak voted for the Improving Head Start Act and the College Cost Reduction and Access Act.

"Sestak voted for the Waxman Markey American Clean Energy and Security Act (Cap and Trade) program.[16] He is the only Pennsylvanian congressman to have a 100% rating from the League of Conservation Voters and PennEnvironment. He was also endorsed by the Sierra Club.."

"Sestak supports gun control and has a 100% rating from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence[18] and an F rating from the National Rifle Association."

"Sestak has called for the reinstatement of the federal ban on assault weapons"

"Sestak credits his support for health care reform as to "pay back" the country that provided him and his family health care while he was in the Navy (the TRICARE program), especially for treating his daughter's brain tumor. He supports state-provided preventive care and voted for the CHAMP Act."

"Sestak is an original co-sponsor of the Employee Free Choice Act and supports the original version that includes card check."

(Above are all cut/paste from link below)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Sestak

You are not very bright "klink" and it's rude to flaunt one's outstanding traits.

Anonymous said...

That's right. Remember in November. This should be our national slogan for all registered voters. Goodbye Mr. Spector. Interesting how the White House decided not to let Obama appear and campaign for Spector. Smart move on their part. They want Spector to keep his seat. Vote him out and flush the toilet on all incumbents. Remember in November.

Anonymous said...

Without verification of the data that goes on the card, without at least the threat of a criminal penalty for fraud in obtaining this id, it's a joke. The idea that a bank, airline, or employer would actually accept one of these as valid id, also a joke.

Anonymous said...

"Half of New York City residents don't pay taxes because they are below a given threshold"

i think, when they say half don't pay taxes they are referring to federal income taxes...i'm not sure how low your income has to be to not pay state/city taxes...anybody know?

for some interesting videos:

http://www.borderinvasionpics.com/

Anonymous said...

Lino, why do you hate old people so much? you're always insulting the old people

is it because you are an egotistical, hypocritical douchebag?

blah, blah, blah the stores we own blah blah blah boring, boring our restaurants blah blah AM radio blah blah cut and paste wikipedia blah blah not too bright blah

aren't people allowed to disagree with you without getting ripped apart? or is your ego too fragile you scrambled-eggs brained jerk

the only thing i want to hear from you from now on is if you pay your illegal bicycle delivery bois off the books...otherwise shut the fuck up you hypocrite

No Fan of Lino! said...

I love it! Keep 'em coming!

The one thing Lino fails to recognize,
is that if the revolution he so desires actually came to fruition,
he'd be the first one up against the wall!!!

If you seek enlightenment from the screeds of Lino,
Don’t waste your time; you’re better off talking to a Wino!

Anonymous said...

Any municipality that gives out these fake IDs to illegals should be held accountable and be fined. If the illegal is arrested, the municipality should have to pay for the incarceration out of their budgets. Where is the accountability? Illegals are breaking the law and any community administrators that help them with these ID's are aiding and abetting criminals. We should make it harder for them to stay here so they will go home -- not easier. Then they bring all their relatives. We should know who is in our country and we should secure our borders. Illegals should have no rights in this country - just as Americans have no rights in their country.

Anony2 said...

Trenton has money for this? How many years have they not fixed the Trenton makes, the world takes sign? I get teary eyed every time I see that sign. But this they have money for..
She can't use the library? Good she shouldn't, she doesn't pay taxes.

Lino said...

" No Fan of Lino! said...
I love it! Keep 'em coming!
The one thing Lino fails to recognize,
is that if the revolution he so desires actually came to fruition,
he'd be the first one up against the wall!"

See, here we have typical propagandized idiot who equates anyone having (somewhat) Liberal views with being some bomb throwing revolutionary.

Their blind stupor results from years of bad information and indoctrination.

too bad, but your bunch will be gone soon anyway.

Queens Crapper said...

Actually, I find that's more how liberals view conservatives. Note how the Times Square bomber was automatically assumed to be some crazy white man upset with the government.

Anonymous said...

right, lino...anyone who doesn't agree with your warped view is a "propagandized idiot"...very mature

are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the ticklefight party?

(just admit that you pay delivery boys off the books...you can do it, the truth doesn't hurt that much)

Lino said...

" Queens Crapper said...
Actually, I find that's more how liberals view conservatives. Note how the Times Square bomber was automatically assumed to be some crazy white man upset with the government."

Where Q-C?, some crackpots on blogs and comment sections on newspaper sites. I was down there that afternoon and when I got back and heard about what was happening I thought it was something to do with May Day.

Let's not forget that is was 15 years ago that some white guy blew up that building in Oklahoma City and another crackpot flew a plane into an IRS office in Texas.

We had a spate of doctors assassinated in the late 80's -mid 90's spurred on by right wing fanatics opposed to abortion.

Then we have the fact that over the last year sales of guns including semi and automatic types have soared even though the Obama adm had openly stated that there will be no attempt to curtail gun ownership.

So,yeah come to think of it, "some crazy white man upset with the government" may indeed be a valid fear.

Queens Crapper said...

Actually, our mayor said it, not some commenters on blogs. Our police commissioner was putting out video of a white guy changing his shirt and had us all looking for him.

It turned out to be a radical Muslim who chose Times Square on a Saturday night for the impact it would have. And he had 4 more targets besides Times Square. Imagine that. And he wasn't crazy at all!

Disappointingly, no white guys have gone unhinged and let loose because of Obamacare as feared.

But Bloomie's making it easier to get a gun which, in the crazy mind of a left-winger, means all the Archies will run out and arm themselves and go ballistic on the east side libs. Watch out, Lino!

Anonymous said...

when i am gone to my maker,my siblings and patriotic
Q.C. support will deal with your lack of common sense,lino.

and as you can read they can be extremely caustic.

you will only have your 200 or so illegal alien delivery boys to console you.

Lino said...

"But Bloomie's making it easier to get a gun which, in the crazy mind of a left-winger, means all the Archies will run out and arm themselves and go ballistic on the east side libs. Watch out, Lino!'

Aw geez Arch, I dunno, ya see my dad, a big shot art dealer had a carry permit an' I kinda grew up around a lot of antique flint lock and other rifles...still have 'em.

Seriously Q-C my two partners have carry's I could get one too if I were interested...All it currently takes is a reason: handling large amounts of cash will do..and..some cop or detective to vouch for you. With the fact that two of our managers are married to detectives and we feed a lot of cops on a daily basis, it's no problem.

I have -zero- problem with people having something in their residence for protection,..I support that fully.

Carrying is another matter.

With all the stoneheads out in parts of Queens, you'll be more likely run into a problem than I.

Anonymous said...

This is aiding and abetting terrorism. The federal Govt must step in and stop this illegal processes.

Anonymous said...

i hate n.j and it smells there , the shit hole of the U.S.A.

Archibald Bunker said...

you will only have your 200 or so illegal alien delivery boys to console you.

Yes, but Lino's "pool boy" Ramon is the one that really makes him feel "special"!

panzer65 said...

The sentence says Illegal...and then the last sentence says.."Make their lives easier"....