Thursday, May 27, 2010

Why we need troops on the border

From Fox News:

The Department of Homeland Security is alerting Texas authorities to be on the lookout for a suspected member of the Somalia-based Al Shabaab terrorist group who might be attempting to travel to the U.S. through Mexico, a security expert who has seen the memo tells

The warning follows an indictment unsealed this month in Texas federal court that accuses a Somali man in Texas of running a “large-scale smuggling enterprise” responsible for bringing hundreds of Somalis from Brazil through South America and eventually across the Mexican border. Many of the illegal immigrants, who court records say were given fake IDs, are alleged to have ties to other now-defunct Somalian terror organizations that have merged with active organizations like Al Shabaab, al-Barakat and Al-Ittihad Al-Islami.

In 2008, the U.S. government designated Al Shabaab a terrorist organization. Al Shabaab has said its priority is to impose Sharia, or Islamic law, on Somalia; the group has aligned itself with Al Qaeda and has made statements about its intent to harm the United States.

In recent years, American Somalis have been recruited by Al Shabaab to travel to Somalia, where they are often radicalized by more extremist or operational anti-American terror groups, which Al Shabaab supports. The recruiters coming through the Mexican border are the ones who could be the most dangerous, according to law enforcement officials.

Security experts tell that the influx of hundreds of Somalis over the U.S. border who allegedly have ties to suspected terror cells is evidence of a porous and unsecured border being exploited by groups intent on wrecking deadly havoc on American soil.

Here's more from CNN.


Mike R. Bloomberg said...

NO! We need to have a sanctuary country. To not do so would be foolish. We need busboys and grass mowers. So what if a few terrorists slip by.

P.S. I'm running for president!

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

I've said this all along -- Mexicans aren't the only people crossing our souther border. Special attention should also be paid to our norther border with Canada. Illegals cross there too! By the time the government gets its act together, it will be too late for us. Note to all the unemployed -- Burkas will soon be the main fashion in the US after we are taken over. I'd invest in the fashion industry if I were you.

Anonymous said...

I've actually met Punjabi illegals who crossed the border with the assistance of a coyote. Now this dude was Hindu (so less likely to blow stuff up) but most Punjabis are from Pakistan and Muslim (and therefore more likely to blow stuff up). The situation on the southern border is out of control. If the Israeli's can build a fence which completely stops all border crossings and thus suicide bombings why cant we? It really is a matter of national security. They also need an actual ID card in this country which states your work status and is hard to forge, I'm sure people can run off SS cards on thier epson injket printers.
Once the border is secure, they need to go after every employer who hires illegals, and get them for back taxes.

Anonymous said...

The US needs to close all borders completely for 2 years. Once they are closed, we need to seek out all employers who hire illegals and fine them. Employers would also be responsible for transportation charges to send their illegal employees and their families home when they are deported. Lastly, illegals should have a time frame to leave our country. If they do no leave, they must be rounded up and deported and the bill for their transport will be paid for by their home countries. It's time to take America back. No other country allows people to invade them and then pays for them as reward. Try this in China or Mexico and see how far you get in that country by being there illegally. It's no wonder all these countries are laughing at us. Ameria also needs to streamline the Legal Immigration process for people who want to come here and assimilate the legal way.

Cherokeesista said...

DUH!!!! It took them this long to figure it out:(

kingofnycabbies said...

Haven't more terrorist wannabes come in by way of Canada? I'm taking QC volunteers right now to man our border to the north--any takers?--Bueller?

Joe said...

by way of Canada?
Yep, Canada let's everybody out INTO the US Border yet search and run the ID's of everybody coming in via the US border.

Those pricks in the boots tore up our tour bus, bunks, closets and trailor of equipment and this was 1996 before 911.
They held and interrogated us 12 hours in separate rooms over a black 35mm film capsule filled with the drivers "blue stuff" deodorizer for the toilet. They then started with another shit storm in over an autographed playboy of their own product Pam Anderson

Meanwile a good 30 unchecked semi's per hour were driving right bye southbound into the NY border.
Bunch of assholes !

Queens Crapper said...

"Haven't more terrorist wannabes come in by way of Canada?"

How would we know?

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile back in Queens, we have tens of thousands of student age Koreans in NY on student visa's who don't go to any school and steal rents from middle class American home owners. They are a nightmare group so be warned. They have their system and work our system like a well oiled tool.

Jeffrey Tastes said...

It's easier to control the borders of a country the size of New Jersey. Maybe we should put chips in each american citizen and everyone without a chip implanted in them will be prosecuted?

georgetheatheist said...

Look, I hate to say this, but these vermin are going to get in. By hook or crook. They are determined bastards and we are asleep at the border.

Joe's tale is true. I was camping in Canada years ago and came into the US in the late afternoon at Madawaska, Maine about 1-2 miles south of the New Brunswick border town of Edmundson. The US border agent ripped my VW bug up searching for whatever. He even squeezed the padding of my sleeping bag and searched underneath the vehicle. Everything had to come out of the car. He finally found some backpain prescription medicine capsules in my toilet bag. These were confiscated because I had them in a plastic sandwich bag (to save space) instead of in a pharmacy container bottle. When he found this unidentified medicine, he consulted a copy of the US Pharmacoepia and found out that they were legit but confiscated them anyway since they weren't accompanied by a drugstore label. But that's all he got. I was clean and he let me drive on to Madewaska where I booked a night in a motel. I asked the clerk where I could get dinner. She said, "Oh, everything is closed in Madewaska. If you want a restaurant, you have to drive back over the border to Edmundson." I showered and took a nap and then back over the border. Past the US customs where the agent was doing something or the other. I figured I have to go through the same rigamarole again going back in after dinner. BTW no problem entering Canada to go to the restaurant. After eating, back into the car and as I approached the US border and the customs station again, around 10PM, I saw it was closed. No gate, no spiked roadway, no nothing except a sign that said the station was closed and that traffic should procede.

Anonymous said...


send a message to obama and your legislators.

Joe said...

Its a total joke George, we were laughing at those Canadian cops. We just could not help it

They must have had 1/2 of New Brunswick police and border staff testing - retesting the blue toilet bowl stuff, scraping and getting fustrated then telling us "sombody" confessed. Demanding we tell them where are the rest of the drugs, throwing pens and paper cups at us.
According to the bus driver they were after the $200,000 tourbus. Harrismant, fines, surcharges and confiscation must be part of how the Canadians pay for all those social programs. The driver was really worried they may actually plant something if we didnt stop laughing.
BTW they then wanted $800 per person to enter the country because we "insulted" some of their officers under some sort of hurt speech thing.
We simply told them screw you people and canned the 3 shows.
The Canadians clearly don't give a crap about the US Border security. Jeeze what a stupid Pinkananny country.


Howya Ben Bubbalah said...

"Haven't more terrorist wannabes come in by way of Canada?"

How would we know?

Please look the other way, eh?

Queens Crapper said...

No my answer has to do with the fact that we don't know who is here that wishes to harm us or how they got here thanks to our lax border patrols on both borders. Let's not even get into our ports and airports.

georgetheatheist said...

BTW, if you look at the Texas map on this post, you'll see the Big Bend National Park. BBNP is in Brewster County, Texas. Brewster County is the largest county in Texas. There are only about 9,000 people living there. It's where the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski's brother, David- who later turned him in - lived for awhile, in the county's Christmas Mountains. (Man, this county is desolate. I've visited over 8 times, BBNP.)

Brewster County is larger in geographical area than these states: Connecticut, Rhode Island, Delaware.

Brewster County is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island combined.

Altogether: This site is so-o-o-o educational.

Queens Crapper said...

I've been to Big Bend. You can actually wade across the Rio Grande there.

Anonymous said...

The Obama administration is also starting to target homegrown terrorists i.e anyone who vocally opposes the government's current policies. Will you or your neighbors be listed as a potential threat? Where does it end? Seems to me that the terrorists have won the battle with the creation of an atmosphere of paranoia. Scary, huh? And they've only just begun.

georgetheatheist said...

Right you are Crapper. One of the campgrounds in the park is called Rio Grande Village which has a small grocery store, a laundromat and shower facilities. Right across the Rio Grande is the Mexican town of Boquillas. The National Park Service, prior to 9/11 let the Mexicans from there cross over and buy stuff at the camp store and then head back to Boquillas. I saw them all the time when I was there. When the river was low, indeed you could wade across or when it was high, the Mexicans had a ferry-skiff arrangement. The Americanos could also go over to Boquillas, walk around, buy some pottery and a tamale and then go back and say they were in Mexico. But that all changed with 9/11.

Blabs said...

Remember when you were really young and used to's a free country? Well free just got very expensive.

Joe said...

Apparently anyone who vocally opposes the government's current policies technically can be listed as a potential threat or yanked out of their home.
The patriot apparently pre-empts most of the Bill of Rights particularly throwing 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8 them down the toilet.
Especially for US Citizens.

It happened to a Bergen NJ blogger and radio host Hal Turner.
They ripped out all his dental crowns and threw him in a federal poky way down south full of angry blacks & Latino's. No bail, 23 hour solitary, bankrupted him with 3 hung jury trials.
They are currently going for a 4th
Great Read Here:

Anonymous said... may 17,2010

"cost of illegal immigration rising rapidly in Arizona,study finds."

Anonymous said...

I've said this all along -- Mexicans aren't the only people crossing our souther border. Special attention should also be paid to our norther border with Canada.

Why is it that POLS don't recognize the fact that if every day folks who jump the border to live and work illegally here, that those who have deliberate sinister goals to enter the country to perform terrorist acts can and are entering our country just as easily. When the term illegal is applied to folks, we dont distinguish who they are but rather anyone of the folks entering the country from Mexico or Canada could be an individual from abroad using those countries as a transit point to easily enter the USA. Thus among illegals could be terrorists that ironically the POS are catering to in order to one day garner their vote when amnesty is conferred upon them. Uphold federal laws, report illegals.

Anonymous said...

If the Israeli's can build a fence which completely stops all border crossings and thus suicide bombings why cant we?

It seems to me the Israelis get much flack from their walls, but they are also protecting themselfs by preventing outsiders from access to their country to blow up everything in site that Israelis have become used to. Do you want to face bombs in public spaces every day or build a wall to prevent this?

Hire the Israeli companies whom are building the wall and technology to monitor the walls.

The Duke! said...

When ya catch 'em...
string 'em up along the Rio Grande...
like the Romans used placed rows of their crucified enemies along both sides of the Apian Way!

That'll show 'em...'n learn 'em good!

georgetheatheist said...

Duke. That was when the Romans had balls. Under the early Emperors. The Julians, the Claudians, the Flavians. The Romans were feared in their rule of the Empire. Feared.

One of the reasons Rome fell was due to the introduction of Christianity by the Emperor Constantine who issued the Edict of Milan in 313 giving religious tolerance to the diversity of the population.

Who fears the United States of America saddled with liberal politicians and their way of thinking these days?

Look at the Seal of the United States on your dollar bill. The eagle is facing the olive branches away from the arrows. It's time to turn the eagle's head the other way.

All roads led to Rome. All roads lead to America.

Anonymous said...

At least one Queens weakly knows we need a fence. This was the Chronicle's May 6 editorial.

Compromise must be found on illegal immigration.
Arizona’s new law makes the need for national reform clear, and two principles must be key in any legislation. Each will please one side in the debate and anger the other, but there really is no choice. We can’t have states enacting individual policies on what is clearly a national issue, and the status quo is not acceptable either.
We must legalize — with penalties — most of the estimated 10 to 15 million illegal immigrants who are here and want to stay. Yes, that will “reward lawbreaking” to a degree, as critics will charge, but there’s little choice at this point. Mass deportations would cause chaos. Just look at the reaction to Arizona’s new law. While many protests were peaceful, like the ones held this weekend in Jackson Heights and Corona, others were marked by violence, which will only get worse if the federal government starts rounding up undocumented workers en masse. Just imagine the anguish of families torn apart, of babies wrested from their mothers’ arms by armed federal agents. Think Elian Gonzalez in reverse, multiplied by millions.
Under legalization, applicants would be forced to pay back taxes and fines for coming here illegally. No one who committed a serious crime other than crossing the border would be eligible. But millions of people who are now underground would become full-fledged members of society — no longer costing governments money by evading taxes while utilizing public services, no longer packing emergency rooms, no longer leaving justice unfulfilled by not reporting crimes committed against them. It would make for a better America.
At the same time, we must put a stop to the chaos at the border. We cannot continue to allow masses of illegal aliens to pour into the country. That means building an effective fence across the entire border with Mexico — not a virtual fence but a real one. And it means deploying more Border Patrol agents. All that will cost money, but among the primary roles of any government is protecting its borders, and ours has failed to do so for years, under both parties.
Many will find a fence as detestable as the idea of the police asking people for their papers. They’ll liken it to the hated Berlin Wall. But the analogy fails for one key reason: the border fence is designed to keep people out, while the Wall kept people in. Nobody would be shot in the back trying to clamber over it, in either direction.
Physical barriers have proven necessary and effective from ancient China, where the Great Wall protected a major civilization, to modern Israel, where fences have proven remarkably valuable in reducing terror attacks from the Gaza Strip. Here, legal immigration must continue in an organized and fair fashion, and a fence will only help that.
The Arizona law has opened up deep wounds across the country. While about 70 percent of Arizonans support it, it’s anathema to many in places like Queens — where immigrants legal and illegal alike go about their business every day, working and sending their children to school, enriching our city with the culture of their homelands while adapting to the society they often risked everything to join. At the same time there are many here who cheer the new law as a way to clamp down on rampant lawbreaking.
A bill that would recognize the dignity of human beings already among us while simultaneously putting more resources into the legitimate protection of our nation’s borders is the best answer. It will satisfy no one’s demands completely but will serve everyone’s interests substantially. It must be one of Washington’s top priorities.

Anonymous said...

adopting the Arizona immigration law in new york would absolutely solve the overcrowding of n.y.c. schools. fewer teachers and yellow school buses would be needed.

many billions of tax dollars from the citizens would be saved.

the unions would have less dues to bribe the whore politicians.

Anonymous said...

If you make them all legal, what makes you think they will obey our rules and pay fines for entering illegally? Same thing with taxes. They'll find a way to work off the books, just like they do now. They get all these perks here and they don't have to register or do anything. They will never follow our rules. Legalizing them would be a waste of time and money. Deport all of them.