Saturday, March 13, 2010
Snowballs now considered weapons
From the Daily News:
Four Bronx buddies are facing a year in jail for criminal possession of a weapon - a snowball that hit an off-duty transit cop.
The young men say they were horsing around in the late February storm when an errant snowball smacked Officer Adonis Ramirez in the leg.
Next thing they knew, he was waving a gun at them and calling for backup. Now they're facing a slew of charges and readying a $10 million suit against the city.
"When I was in Central Booking, people asked me what I was locked up for, and I said a snowball," said Johnathan Rodriguez, 22. "Everyone started laughing."
The NYPD doesn't think it's a joke.
A police source said the cop, who was in street clothes, was barraged with snowballs and taunts and chased down the street "in a threatening manner."
The group says Ramirez was the one who behaved badly - failing to identify himself as a cop when he pulled out a gun and ordered them to the ground.
"He screamed, 'You don't know who I am,'" said Manuel Rondon, 18, a student at Monroe College.
"He pulled out the gun and aimed it at me when he was 3 feet away. I thought he was going to kill me."
"I thought he was some drug dealer who was going to shoot me in the head and walk away," said Christian Perez, 19. "We only hit him once, and it was by mistake."
Ariel Lopez, a 17-year-old senior at Jane Addams High School, said he and the others "were all really scared."
26 comments:
in this uber-uptight, newly fascist America and Bloomshit world, mischief is now a crime.
man, I want back the real America..
On one hand, I hate cops. On the other hand, I hate thug spics with priors. Yeah, I'm going to have to go with the cop on this one. Also you would be lying if you said you wouldn't have done the same thing. Do you expect the cop to run away and cower or actually do something about it?
These punks think they can get away with an "accidental" snowball hitting one of our enforcement goons? The peasantry needs to learn their place and be thankful our obedient dog didn't splatter their brains on the snow. You people have no rights. You have no property. All you have is what we sell you and you buy it up like good little clones. Fear not, the culling is rapidly approaching and we will soon have no need for the lot of you. And after our execution squads are done putting down the lame, we will reward them with the death they deserve as well. You are all cannon fodder. All hail the New World Order.
These damm police think they are so above the law! They should'nt be allowed them to take their guns home with them. Without thier guns, they are just a bunch of punks themseleves.....
Maspeth Mom says....
These are not 10 year old playing around, these are adult men. If they started to hit me with snowballs I would not be too happy about it and I would certainly feel threatened.
They were spoiling for a fight-now they are saying they were just playing around- why becuase their weapon of choice was a snowball- Whats the difference between a snow ball and a rock - hurts about the same The only thing thats different is the snowballs melts.
Ok kids you live in New York..no more snow ball fights by penalty of law!!
Snowball is a weapon. What a nation of pussies who were all so eager for war but can't fucking handle a snowball. losers
"Snowball is a weapon. What a nation of pussies who were all so eager for war but can't fucking handle a snowball. losers"
I kind of agree....
People are way too soft these days...
come on it was a snowball.. the cop should of just asked them to stop that it may get out of control. to pull out a gun come on!!
People in America have become way too squeamish. I'm surprised the cop didn't go to the ER to have his bruise looked at.
If a civilian had tried to file this complaint, first the officers would have laughed, then they would have made fun of him, then they would have told him that it was not a crime.
How old are these assholes?
They're Goddamn lucky it WAS a cop and not some savage.
Don't fuck with people you don't know, and you won't end up face down in the street with someone pointing a gun at you.
Period.
My buddy is a former bus operator for nyc transit.Some asshole hit him in the face with a hardpacked snow ball through the open window of his bus many years ago.That iceball seperated his retina,ending his career and made his life miserable.Hope these miscreants get all they deserve!
Maspeth Mom says.
Yes Linda it was a snowball, but it was thrown by 20 year olds not little kids. If there were 3 of them and one of me, yes I would feel threatened - and not ashamed about it at all.
And Faster 340 why should I have to handle a snowball thrown at me by 3 adult males? Tell me why you would think thats OKAY??? If it was a rock would that be okay. If they were throwing at your mother would that be okay with you???
People who can't admit they are scared are wrong are the losers.
The guy was hit in the leg. He was not the target. He was not hurt. And 20 year old males are college aged kids. College aged kids still lack maturity and horse around. This was a silly incident.
Lol @ people saying it was just a snowball. Yeah a snowball being thrown by four adult men. Let me throw a snowball at your face full force and see if it won't cause any damage. The cop put these little pieces of shit in their place and I see nothing wrong with that.
The police dept is a very adverserial employer.There is more to the story or the cop would have been suspended.
And Faster 340 why should I have to handle a snowball thrown at me by 3 adult males? Tell me why you would think thats OKAY??? If it was a rock would that be okay. If they were throwing at your mother would that be okay with you???
A snowball thrown at me by 3 males? Boy that's a really big snowball, especially when he was just hit in the leg...
And it wasn't a rock! It was a snowball. If it were, then I say arrest them but a ROCK is not a snowball...
And if they threw the snowball at my mother she would probably throw one back at them and have a great time.
Please get over yourself. You and the rest of these people need to stop taking yourselves so serious.
Why don't you get all righteous about someone beating down a defenseless dog with a snow shovel than throwing some snowballs? I see you didn't waste your typing skills for anything like that...
A snowball doesn't deserve a gun in the face like that!!! It's a bit excessive!
First of all, if the snowball had already been thrown, there was no need to pull a gun out. The "perps" had been relieved of their "weapons". Second of all, the officer could not have possibly been in fear for his life because he had been hit with a snowball. Third, nowhere in this story does it say the officer was hit in the face.
So it sounds like trumped up charges so the cops up in the Bronx can show how tough they are.
Gee ...shades of the "Boston Massacre".
I ain't givin' you an American history lesson so look it up.
FYI:
Hey...If you so much as touch a cop lightly with your finger...it's considered assault and you can be cuffed, arrested and taken into the station house.
That's the law...I didn't write it that way.
It's also a felony to assault a transit worker.
Yeah and they knew he was a cop how exactly? He was in plainclothes. Even after he whipped his gun out they claim he never ID'd himself. And if what you are saying is true, they would have charged them with a felony that could put them behind bars for 7 years, not a dopey misdemeanor that will likely get tossed.
What a fucking Asshole, I'd like to bury that jackass in the snow:) When it snows in AMERICA WE LIKE TO HAVE SNOWBALL FIGHTS:) Why didn't he join in:) and for you ASSHOLE A SNOWBALL IS A FRIGGIN SNOWBALL NOT A WEAPON:)
If the punks would refrain from throwing snowballs, there wouldn't have been a problem.
www.forgotten-ny.com
(LOL) Yeah but the evidence of a an existing "weapon" melted.
Dumb ass cops!
They think just because they've attended a couple of classes at John Jay that they're smarter than the average citizen!
Their brains are in their asses and their cocks are in their Glocks!
Doughnut dunkers!
A snowball,if used to cause physical inury/Serious physical injury is considered a Dangerous Instrument.
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