Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Middle class kissing NYC goodbye

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

This piece is entirely Manhattan-centric. There are plenty of good, affordable middle-class areas in the outer-boroughs. To say there are no good options for middle-class families in NYC is an insult to the middle-class neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn.

Snake Plissskin said...

That is not the point.

A steady drumbeat of this - while we do everything to let the world know that immigrants are welcome even if they are illegal, lets the clubouse design communities to fit its fancy.

Wade Nichols said...

California is also losing people in droves.

I wonder why?

Anonymous said...

"To say there are no good options for middle-class families in NYC is an insult to the middle-class neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn."

FYI - The neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn are being so OVER DEVELOPED no sane person would want to live in those areas. I live in Queens near St. John's Univ our way of life has been severly impacted by the development of the college.

As soon as the housing market goes up a bit I'm outta here off to North Carolina.

italian girl said...

That's so sad. I'm afraid this is the beginning of the end of New York City as we knew it. It'll be the city everyone runs away from instead of flocks to. What a shame.

Anonymous said...

Oh please. The area near St. John's is supported by the development of the University. Without it, the area would have substantially less business and economic activity.

Anonymous said...

The area near St. John's is a residential community.

Anonymous said...

Two posters up is

1. a Pratt student who will be a major player in city preservation movement within a decade

2. a local community board member

3. a political foamer that wants to run for office.

4. a local newspaper reporter dreaming of a City Hall job.

Anonymous said...

"The area near St. John's is a residential community."

Used to be residential, have you been there lately? It's a lot of no parking, lots of building inside and outside of the campus it's more a college town then a residential community.

Anonymous said...

We have been losing the middle class for as long as I've been alive and the city isn't dead yet. New people will always arrive.


We've survived 911, the fiscal crisis of the 70's, the racial, political and drug problems of the 60's, World War II, The Great Depression, German sabotage during the First World War, the Civil War Draft riots and the burning of the entire city during the American Revolution. We will survive this too.

faster340 said...

"This piece is entirely Manhattan-centric. There are plenty of good, affordable middle-class areas in the outer-boroughs. To say there are no good options for middle-class families in NYC is an insult to the middle-class neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn."

Hey anonymous some middle class people would like to live in Manhattan. It shouldn't just be for the rich or well to do! The outer boroughs are nice but it's not Manhattan, it's totally different. If I wanted to live in Manhattan I shouldn't have to pay $5000 a mos. for an apt. where the same size and style of apt. in Brooklyn or Queens would go for $1500. That's insane.

Anonymous said...

It isn't up to the government to control geographical prices so you can live wherever you want. If someone else who can afford it wants to live there, why should they not be allowed because you want a place reserved for yourself?
Get serious before you try to debate a topic like this please.

faster340 said...

"It isn't up to the government to control geographical prices so you can live wherever you want."

Who said that?

Anonymous said...

You did.

Anonymous said...

Actually, no he didn't. He said it shouldn't be that way, not that the government should control geographic prices.

Queens Crapper said...

But if you think about it, the government does do that by the type of zoning, landmarking and amenities (like parks) they bestow upon a neighborhood and by allowing the NYC to be a Sanctuary City. They know exactly who is going to move where. So whoever thinks the government isn't responsible for this needs to have his head forcefully removed from his posterior.

faster340 said...

That's true crappy. Like in the past whoever lived closest to the center of the castle had a better way of life and consequently it cost more money too.