Saturday, July 5, 2008

Bukharians on a Forest Hills crapping frenzy

“We like to utilize every single square inch of land, every inch of territory,” explained Rabbi Shlomo Nisanov, head of a Bukharian synagogue and community center in Kew Gardens Hills. “For some reason, people don’t appreciate it.”

Questions of Size and Taste in Queens

The Bukharian tendency to pave over everything is practical, he continued. Bukharians preferred a terrace or patio to a lawn, which he called “useless land.” A yard required mowing — “a waste of time,” he said.

“Exhibit A,” he said, gesturing to a brick row house on 76th Road. It had a verdant front yard that seemed to beg for mowing and pruning. “You see this?” he said dismissively. “What is this? What are we seeing here?”

He then pointed to the house next door. “Exhibit B,” he declared. The house was fronted by a well-swept terrace of red and black paving stones and enclosed within a five-foot-high wall that, he said, ensured some privacy. Any remaining green was an accent rather than a feature.

“You can eat outside, the kids have a place to play,” the rabbi said. “You have usage of the front of your house.”

“It’s nice, it’s beautiful,” he added. "What are you afraid of?"


Oh, little things like worsening pollution, the heat island effect, 3 feet of water in our basements...

114 comments:

Anonymous said...

The rabbi apparently believes we can manufacture oxygen.

www.forgotten-ny.com

Anonymous said...

J E W S

JEWS JEWS JEWS

Jason in Kew Gardens said...

The Bukharians who went to Russell Sage while I was there were not the nicest bunch of people in the world. The kids from former Soviet Union countries as well as other Jewish kids particularly had a problem with them, feeling that they were being misrepresented.

Anonymous said...

What can you expect from a third world people who don't know what good taste is?

-Joe said...

We have this shit’s coming into Manhasset now that all the properties in Great Neck are taken.
It's takes 8 weeks of generators and LOUD ceramic saw's 7AM-5PM to cut the thousands of paving stones to cover everything with ugly circles and patterns. These people do cut and cover EVERYTHING right up to there property lines, block the whole street with contractor trucks.
F*cking TERRORISTS !!

They even have loud bells and gongs going all day like the Iranian Jews
They SUCK suck as neighbors and they physicly look like monsters !

At times Id rather move back to Ridgewood or Bushwick or even Mattituck with the dumb rednecks drunks.
-Joe

Anonymous said...

What a Bukharian Jew,? Are they all rich? where do they get the money? how long have the been comming? Did they bring the $$$ with them?? What do they look and drees like.. Thanks From An American bron 50y/0 from bklyn.

-Joe said...

Organized crime, silk, Jade, diamonds and rising fast in American real estate, gray market electronics.

See some of the Times Square camera and electronic stores around 42nd street. Like the Iranian Jews they think they are #1 and hate everbody but there own especially Americans. Thats my experience..

One tried to kill his 15 year old daughter for coming home from school in shorts and flip flops. She was shaking hiding in my yard. I didnt beleive her at first till the father appeared in MY YARD a butcher knife.
....lovley People

-Joe

Anonymous said...

They kind of look like a cross between a overweight Borat and Don Ho

Anonymous said...

The flood gates of the former Soviet Union have opened and here they are. Money does not buy class....

Anonymous said...

"On the walls hung two enormous paintings ... one showing the British surrender to Washington at Yorktown and the other depicting Moses’ liberation of the Jews in Egypt."

Patriotism and the bible. Sounds like they share at least some values with of most people on this blog. Why not try for some common ground on this 4th of July weekend?

middle village renter said...

most in the jewlery (diamonds)business-

the are very insular and keep to their own

these homes are way tacky

but no need to get anti semitic
they have no connection to your regular american jew

and if you can't deal with someone who is not a "white american"

get the fuck out of ny and move to wyoming you back woods in bred freaking losers

crappy- i like your site but your anti semitic and anti everything posters you have here from time to time take away any credibility you may achieve in the blogging world

and your a mets fan which makes me think you are a knucklehead
(just kidding)
keep up the good work but without the racist crap

Queens Crapper said...

I didn't say anything anti-Semitic in my post, and if you don't like the comments people leave, don't read them. I really doubt there is anything my commenters say that takes away my "credibility in the blogging world". Every blog has trolls, every blog has people who post inflammatory content. When I remove it, I get criticized, when I leave it I get criticized. So I am just gonna leave it and not worry about it anymore.

Anonymous said...

hey joe:

don't leave us hanging, what happened with the father and the butcher knife?

did he try to stab her?

Anonymous said...

hey crappy:

you're doing a great job!

keep up the good work

there will always be someone complaining about something

Anonymous said...

"move to wyoming you back woods in bred freaking losers"

What's wrong with Wyoming? It's beautiful there. You're a hater.

Anonymous said...

Do they like American jews, and follow the same teachings?

Julie said...

Search the blog for titles containing "The Great Queens Mosaic". This fits into that thread...

Anonymous said...

I thought immigrants dropped their bad habits and assimilated. Oops. Another dumb theory disproved.

Anonymous said...

I wish Queens was rid of its Jews, and then everything would be great.

Joe said...

Joe did he try to stab her?
-----
No he tried to stab me !!

The wife is now trying to sue me for protecting myself and GET THIS "loss of services" for him spending time in the N Shore, Creedmore and Jail !!!

The guy had a huge triangular butchers knife with a point ! I had to throw a patio chair through my own rear sliding door glass to get to the baseball (I keep in the track as an extra lock)

Cant talk about the case but lets say his wife is now trying to sue me in a Civil "loss of services' case for him spending time in Hospital then Creedmore then Jail, Trama, Pain, and CPS taking his 2 kids and everything else since he did not leave here on foot.

These savages also threw some kind of acid on my lawn, killed my cat and left it him on my car seat.

They behave more like fundamentalist Muslims in Afgan!!

-Joe said...

To middle village renter.
How about YOU GO buy a 1/2 million $$ house, pay taxes to have this POS garbage and their familys move in on your block !!

120 dB noise as these Sand and stucco pyramids go up as these people wile tell YOU how to live, dress, landscape, complaing about Christmas lights, flags and call your wife-girlfriend a WHORE for wearing baithing suit in her own back yard.

-Joe said...

Do they like American jews, and follow the same teachings?
------
Apparently not the old Jews in Great Neck are alway fighting with them and actually side with people like me for once.

The cops are always being called to some scene. They fight with everbody and only live here to make $$. The good part is most work 14 hours a day, you dont see them but when they are around.... OH BOY !!!

---Enough about these sandland POS's they make me sick !

Julie said...

Hope you're countersuing, Joe. I'd notify the papers as to what's going on.

-Joe said...

I know better then to fall for a trap like that with the media. In New York-Long Island 95% of the time the owners, editors or advertizers are Jewish.

Besides I wont talk to them anyway for other reasons:
Once you agree you have ZERO control who will be at the editing desk putting the story together

News people never report Jew on citizen crime anyway just like these racist's never report details on black on white crime, misuse of power.
See: http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/liberal_racism.htm

I worked for NBC some year's back
News-media have all sorts of embargos, rules, PC bullshit. They cut or edit things around leave out details to make the victim's look like intolerant, insensitive Archie Bunker biggot "racist's" who still beleive in the US Constution.

For example Look at how those people on Willets point have been abused and are now being portrayed and treated by our Jewish polititions and "friends" running the show. Those people in Maspeth with the church fiasco with the Israelis and the Greek

You you can figure out the rest.

Anonymous said...

Joe, I hope you let those Jews know who's in charge in Queens!

Anonymous said...

well, like most immigrant groups in queens (especially the koreans) they have no respect for the neighborhoods they move into, the history of such neighborhoods, the people who came before them or the people who live there now. they burst in with there new found riches and start changing everything to what they are accustomed to. i realize that nothing stays the same and things change. but it is real sad to go back to areas that i grew up in and see such drastic changes. then again you cant expect someone who grew up on the other side of the planet to conform or even try to understand your neighborhood and what has come before.

Christina Wilkinson said...

The FH situation has more to do with electeds not doing their jobs than with the backwards ways of this population.

When she saw the first couple of houses go up, Melinda should have waged an educational campaign in that community, fixed the zoning and pushed for an historic district. As chair of land use, city planning and LPC will take cues from her. (Look how quickly she got Forest Hills South rezoned - lightning speed.)

Instead of doing this, she was having fundraisers in Manhattan. Of course, she comes off as a concerned representative in the Times piece. She's been in the council for 7 years, and was an assemblywoman before that. There's really no excuse for her allowing this to happen.

Anonymous said...

Melinda K...isnt she a Jewish Lez that just had a kid out of wedlock ?
I dont understand why she sucked up to these FH Bukharians being they would be the first people to spit on & cut her throat her in there home country.
Does she really think they "changed" there 3rd wold "dumb sheepl infedel blah blah" thinking ?

How much Diamond district $$$ do you think was in the bag Christina ?

Christina Wilkinson said...

We know Melinda is in bed with developers, we know she supported the destruction of the Trylon Theater and in return she got an award from the organization. I am sure she has gotten quite a bit of Bukharian $$. That's what it's all about.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I find a lot of the Bukharians to be disgusting individuals.

And worse they are raising there children will be anti Americanized, hostile and war like.

Bukharians kit for moving into FH:

1.) Buy green area that fits into a nice FH neigborhood block scheme of things.
2.) Build big heinous looking house in too small of a plot to support such an atrocity.
3.) Take front yard and make it concrete.
4.) Decrease everyone's property value then buy more to cut and cover.
4.)Buy the local polititions and take the whole neighborhood and zip code...fuck Archie Bunker and everbody else who dont see things the same way.
...just like the Koreans

Good read on these savages here;
http://www.claudiaecruz.com/bukharians/index.html

-rock said...

im bukharian. born in brooklyn, raised in queens. all you people here are plain and simple haters. your all broke and dont know how to hustle and so..you cry and bitch all fkn day. its funny.
pull your skirts up you fags.
we live good, we eat good, we know how to make money, we are doctors, lawyers, barbers, teachers, policemen, firefighters, jewelers, dentists, surgeons, investors, small business owners, etc.. and hard working..just like everyone else. You people that have problems with jews or bukharians or blacks or spanish people, or anyone who is not like YOU, have self esteem and security issues. probably small coks and probably someones dirty rag.
if you have a problem with bukharians, then make it known...step up to one...and let us know to our face...not behind your computer. survival of the fittest losers.
hey..joe, you have a lot of anger issues..instead of bitching, go tend to your wife, maybe then she'll stop sucking your bukharian neighbors dik.

William said...

@ rock.

rofl. your rant was just as racist as every other post here.

you could have helped change the population's view on buhkarians, but instead you spit venom even worse than everyone else here - which leads us all to believe that burkarians are just as evil as previously stated.

to further break down your comment:

"we live good, eat good, work hard, hustle, etc, etc"

I guess only Burkharians do that? no other ppl in all of new york, the financial capital of the world, work hard, eat good or live good. So, I guess you are saying Buhkarians are better than all other races? If so, I can fully understand why ppl post negative comments targeted at your community.

Use your huge bukharian brains to help bring the community together, not further dissolve it.

will

-Joe said...

LOL ...I rest my case and to tell you pricks to your face Rock. I even kick your wives feet off the seats on the LIRR Port Washington Line !!

-Joe

-rock said...

i finished that with.."...just like everyone else."

you cant read you ignorant prick?

Anonymous said...

"your wife"
------
As usuall !
Always attacking women & children, property and pets first to prevoke people.
.....Lovley bunch !

Anonymous said...

I have friends and neighbors who are Bukharian. For them, cookie-cutter mansions are a manifestation of property rights and the American dream. It's difficult to argue against such basic concepts.

In my opinion, their aversion to lawns may be a throwback to Uzbekistan- an extremely arid country.
Ironically, some Bukharian Jews have moved on to the familiar climate of Arizona.

Anonymous said...

"well, like most immigrant groups in queens (especially the koreans) they have no respect for the neighborhoods they move into, the history of such neighborhoods, the people who came before them or the people who live there now. they burst in with there new found riches and start changing everything to what they are accustomed to."

Kind of hypocritical after what you did to the Native Americans who once lived here.

Truman Harris said...

Native Americans disappeared from Queens 2 centuries ago, before most of our ancestors even came to this country. So this is a really stupid analogy.

Anonymous said...

It is definitly a culture problem. In my area of FH Jewish people say "those Russians" and Russians keep trying to explain they are not Russian (which they are not). They come from a country next to the Arabic countries. Not too popular there either, and not because they are Jewish. The young Bukharian who posted is the example of attitude that people object to here, Russia, Iran, etc.

How sad.

Anonymous said...

People, we are all bothers and sisters, we need to relize that someone that is different because of the land they came from, is our blood faamily, and if we throw stones because of the differances, we are naughty!

Anonymous said...

we are all bothers and sisters


No we ARE NOT !!
Only Arabs, Bukharian's and Israelis Jewz are all "brothers and sisters" Who have a miserable attitude, taste and dont give a shit about anybody else but there own !!

They really should all be living in Arizona, plenty of sand and cheap Mexican labor to put up pyramids and block.

middle village renter said...

crappy you are an idiot
and your minions are a bunch of racist freaking morons

joint he 21st century or leave

a bunch of bitter losers who hide behind their computers and spew hate

rock is right you are haters

last time i ever come here

crappy get a life
and the mets suck asshole
you are the pied piper of these
cross burning wannabes

typical maspeth white trash

somethings never change

all the other blogs have you pegged correctly

racist-bitter-trash
so sad

Queens Crapper said...

"last time i ever come here"$

Oh, do you promise? I am so happy to hear it. Although I know you won't be able to resist the urge to come back. We'll be waiting for you. Love, Crappy.

Joe said...

"Other blogs have Queens Crap pegged correctly"
LOL,

You sure about that Renter ?
Queens Crap and some Greenpoint lady have 2 of the most raw yet well respected blogs in N America.
The local politicians - - especially their speech writers and publicists read it religiously.

http://bloginterviewer.com/north-america/queens-crap-queens-crapper

Likes of Katz, Pinkey, Parkside group get so mad they turn blue and choke (just like Rock and yourself)

...the QC blog clearly shows something when all the bastards are choking

-Joe

Anonymous said...

"Native Americans disappeared from Queens 2 centuries ago, before most of our ancestors even came to this country. So this is a really stupid analogy."

Your ancestors are the reason why native americans "disappeared." That's a nice euphemism though.

Anonymous said...

Native Americans did not "disappear" from NYC because they were exterminated. They intermarried with other races. And this happened long before our immigrant parents and grandparents came through Ellis Island.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I mean do any of us have control over what people who came before us did to each other? No. We're talking about right here, right now.

Taxpayingdad said...

If you read the last 10-12 posts all of you guys forgot about the main subject and have been trashing each other. Look at the house in the picture, what a waste of money and time to have the biggest gaudiest house on a plot made for a regular house and look at the Mercedes! Somebody has way too much money, they are spending like a unemployed crack addict who just hit Lotto, or maybe all the money has illegal ties. The shame is that hard working middle-class people have their property values screwed up because of a few idiots with money to burn. But the city of New York allows the contractors to self approve, look what happened to the Triangle Hofbrau and Niedersteins.

Anonymous said...

It could very well be illegal money since where they are from is considered Mafia (Bukharian type) BUT ALL BUKHARIANS ARE NOT MAFIA. NO MORE THAN ALL ITALIANS ARE MAFIA. EVERY NATIONALITY HAS A TYPE. GOOD AND BAD. IGNORANCE PUTS THE SAME HAT ON EVERYONE.

Anonymous said...

to be honest with you, if i had the type of "scratch" these people have i wouldn't be living in queens period. why waste money buying a house and then tearing it down to build another house on small lot. seems pretty stupid to me.

Anonymous said...

Why? Because this is the only place in the country that would allow them to get away with building this crap. Diversity! What a great thing!

Anonymous said...

Wow, this comment string typifies the ignorant, bigoted, unintelligent mindset of the people who like Queens Crap. Keep it up, because the more comments posted like this, the more and more of a joke this blog becomes.
The house is nicer than the one next to it. No one should have to build their house to the tastes of simple-minded bigots. If houses like this should have more grassy area for community benefit, then city codes should mandate it. I believe the city recently passed some regulations requiring more grass areas on residential properties. Government shouldn't be imposing special taxes on people based on taste.
Stop being such miserable, bitter, jealous haters.

Anonymous said...

"we are doctors, lawyers, barbers, teachers, policemen, firefighters, jewelers, dentists, surgeons, investors, small business owners, etc.."

Let's break it down, shall we?

Doctors, surgeons and dentists -- only your own "kind" will seek you out. You don't want non-Bukharians as patients... which is fine, since you enjoy executing each other in parks in front of your children (see "Doctor Kills Dentist Ex-Husband" story from late last year)

Teachers -- maybe at one of your own shools, but not in the NYC public school system.

Policeman/firefighters -- don't make me laugh.

barbers -- they sit around and bitch all day about how awful this country is and how it was better back home

jewelers, investors, small business owners -- all fronts for MAJOR, MAJOR ILLEGAL activity; money laundering, extortion, etc.

Any questions?

And the "American" Jews in FH do indeed hate them, but they need to realize that THEY are the ones who brought them here. I'm not too young to remember the banners on temples asking people to support the Cause for Russian Jews...

Anonymous said...

Bukharians are not Russians.

Anonymous said...

Wow, this comment string really goes a long way toward exposing the ignorant, bigoted, unintelligent mindset of the people who live in FH's Cord Meyer area. Keep it up, because the more comments posted like this, the more and more of a joke your culture becomes.
The house is uglier than the one next to it. No one should have to build their house to the tastes of simple-minded bigots. Houses like this should have more grassy area for community benefit, and city codes now mandate it. Government should be imposing special taxes on people based on selfish taste.
Stop being such miserable, bitter, jealous haters, Bukharians!

Anonymous said...

The ignorant retards here will group everyone into their own categories. Nothing new.

Bukharians are not Russians. Nor are they liked by other Jews. They have no concern for anyone but themselves. It is a shame because the bad apples far outweigh the good, and give them all a bad stigma.

And don't compare Koreans. If you fuckin ignorant idiots are going to spew hate and ignorance, at least target the appropriate groups.

Anonymous said...

Bukharians are not Russians. Nor are they liked by other Jews. They have no concern for anyone but themselves. It is a shame because the bad apples far outweigh the good, and give them all a bad stigma.

And don't compare Koreans. If you fuckin ignorant idiots are going to spew hate and ignorance, at least target the appropriate groups.


Typical Korean. You spread racism and anti-semitism about every other group, but cry racism when the light of truth is shone on your people.

Anonymous said...

That Grand Central Parkway public school was a great school. But the number of students who qualify for Food Stamps is rising. I expect the academic levels will start falling.

Thank you, Boratarian 'jews' from Uzbekistan. "Brown Jews Unite"... LOL. You look like mongrel orientals and arabs. You give good patriotic Jews a bad name.

Liman said...

I'm a little late to the Jew-bashing party. Sorry. My sheet was at the cleaners.

I know, it's not that simple. This is a culture war. The Buhkarans (and/or Persians) have an in-your-face culture by our standards. Where they come from, you'd never get anywhere with our manners. You might even get killed. But screaming "Jew!" is not "analysis," it's a progrom. There's too much racist ranting on this blog.

What we CAN do is create zoning that protects a community's values - and then actually, you know, enforce it.

But who am I kidding?

Ridgewoodian said...

LIMAN--

Oh my god, a reasonable voice. You're obviously some kind of JewGookChinkySpic tweeding communist malcontent.

Preach on.

Ridgewoodian said...

By the way, all Jews aside - Crappy has been tracking the Paving War for some time and it's not just the Bukharians. Isn't this perhaps a powerful argument that we might have just too many cars in this city and that maybe we should be trying to make them less necessary and to encourage those who can do without to get rid of theirs? I mean, what are we going to be willing to pave over NEXT? To quote The Bridge on the River Kwai: "Madness! Madness!"

Anonymous said...

It, perhaps, began with Kassiev destroying the historic Trylon Theater and using it as a Bukharian staging location for the colonization of Forest Hills!

Anonymous said...

Reactionary rabbis living in the 4th century or brutal Russian/Bukharian mob bosses....what's the difference?

Former Soviet bloc ignorant, overbearing scum!

Anonymous said...

These Bukharians are no different than the low life "goombahs" building those over-sized uglies in Malba!

A nouveau riche peasant is still a peasant from wherever he hails from.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like just a bunch of low class, inbred big spending gangsters
in their new world digs!

Anonymous said...

u can add the clanish koreans to this list also. go to northeast queens and try to find a store with an english sign or a church that is not korean. they buy houses for cash and live 6 to a room. where is all this money coming from? anyone want to take a guess?

rock said...

you all keep typing away.."jews this, bukharians that.." The question is what are any of you going to do about it????
Like i said before haters, let it be known...face to face, we live in your neighborhoods, not hard to find...step up, let us know how you feel to our face. otherwise...keep typing, you fukin broke ass whining little bitches.
-rock

Anonymous said...

I don't see the problem. It's a beautiful home. If the owner doesn't want a lawn then why should the owner have one? Homes in urbanized areas with lawns is practically ridiculous. I've seen far too many urbanized homes with lawns that are not properly mowed and show signs of poor upkeep.

-AB

Truman Harris said...

Because you are responsible for storm runoff on your property. On these properties, it flows into the streets and overburdens the sewers. Concepts like this are foreign to foreigners. We need an education program for them.

Ilana said...

Speaking as a Bukharian Jew myself, I agree that these mcmansions that Bukharians tend to build can be gawdy and unattractive and that their concrete lawns and fences put an overload on the sewers. However, I believe it is because they don't know any better and need help understanding the consequences to their actions. Plus, these people don't represent ALL bukharians.

Christina Wilkinson said...

Exactly. As I said previously, it was Katz' duty to educate the population and push for rezoning as soon as she saw the McMansions sprouting up.

Anonymous said...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone building a nicer, bigger house on their property as long as it is within the zoning and building codes. A person should not have to restrict his house in this country to satisfy the tastes of some bitter, jealous haters.

Anonymous said...

Actually, there is something wrong with it. It harms the environment. Selfish nouveau riche showoffs will be the downfall of this country.

Anonymous said...

here's an idea:

why don't I buy a lot in a small village in their country, build a small, cute cape-cod style home, plant some grass and flowers and put a white picket fence all around.

really piss 'em off!

Anonymous said...

oh, i forgot, make sure you fly an american flag right in the front.

Anonymous said...

Build a Cap Cod and plant a garden. Do your research first that part of the World is mostly desert.

Also re "Persians". Persia is now Iran.

Ilana said...

That's not true, it's not a dessert. Uzbekistan is in Central Asia.

Anonymous said...

"Build a Cap Cod and plant a garden. Do your research first that part of the World is mostly desert."

Do YOUR research before you post a comment.

IDIOT.

Ilana said...

you're the IDIOT, Bukharians are from Uzbekistan which is where MY parents are from by the way, it's not a freaking desert!

Anonymous said...

ilana

no kidding, read my comment carefully next time.

wasn't talking to you.

oh, by the way, it's desert and not dessert.

dessert is a food.

duh

Anonymous said...

From the Euro/Asian steps
come these former sheepherders.

With their questionably acquired riches, they build their oversized
crap castles in the new world.

Proof that money alone can not elevate you to a higher social class.

The shepherd's soul still remains.

Anonymous said...

a true poem.......

send it to melinda katz

Anonymous said...

"F" Melinda
(I'm sure every other developer has)!

She can read the "poem" on Queens Crap! (I'm sure she already has)!

casey said...

As a new Cord Meyer resident who lives on Yellowstone, I am reeling from the anti-semitism and hate here. Truly this is the dark side of the moon when it comes to blogs.
No, these McMansions are not to my taste. The first time I took a walk north of 108 street and came across one, I stopped dead in my tracks. I have taken my Manhattan friends on walking tours of the neighborhood because they couldn't believe it was possible for homes to be that hideous. So I can be judgmental. But I didn't know these were all Bukherians. And now this NY Times story seems to have unleashed a torrent of anti-semitism that is truly scary--and sad, because New York City is the center of Jewish life in America. And Forest Hills has many Jews of all varieties.
If the homes meet building and zoning code, what can you do? This country was built on freedom. Come on, everyone. Calm down. And what do the Koreans have to do with this? I send my kids to PS 196 and there are some lovely Asian and Russian families there. They don't deserve the hate.
And no, I am not Jewish or Russian or Asian. I am an AMERICAN. Let's not allow blog anonymity to bring out the id to this degree.

Truman Harris said...

"If the homes meet building and zoning code, what can you do?"

1) They don't meet them.
2) The city could create an historic district to preserve what's left of neighborhood character and aesthetics.

Anonymous said...

hey casey:

i don't agree. when you move to a neighborhood, you should try to fit in. i mean, don't you think a new neighbor (of any nationality) building something like this is going to piss people off?

i think the point most posters are making, unfortunately in a prejudiced way, is that new neighbors should try to ASSIMILATE. they know very well that what they build annoys everyone and they don't care. that's what angers people on the block.
i think the only reason posters refer to them as bukharian or jews is because they don't know anything else about them.
bukharians keep to themselves and like it that way.

casey said...

My god, would you expect them to want to assimilate after this kind of hate-filled tirade surrounds them? "I heard you think we're criminal violent stupid tasteless scum. How about a barbecue block party?" The posts about what the Bukharians look like--their facial features--are right out of Nazi propaganda. Goebbels would be right at home on this blog. I don't agree that building large tasteless lawnless homes gives people permission to let loose with this level of hate.

If they are violating zoning laws, then why aren't they being fined? I suspect they are (barely) within the boundaries. Is anyone doing environmental impact research on the runoff/drainage?

Are our elected officials trying to do something about this? I gather they are but how easy is it in New York City to change zoning laws? I assume there are a lot of hurdles.

Let's get real about Cord Meyer. I live there. It isn't Forest Hills Gardens. There are some charming Tudor-style homes, some nice ranch houses. It's quiet. I like it. How historic is it, though? Are any of those homes more than 70 years old or by famous architects?

As I said in my earlier post, the style of these houses is in my opinion garish and ugly. I love grass. The fact that they don;t want it is sad and upsetting if it leads to environmental problems. The homes are eyesores. But this is not the worst crisis a neighborhood could face. No drug pushing, mugging, or assaults comes with these homes.

casey said...

One more thing.
I wonder how much of this rage agains the new homes is fueled by jealousy about their obvious new money? I can relate to this somewhat. We have good jobs yet we struggle to pay the rent on Yellowstone; two blocks away is a mini-mansion that reeks of all cash down. How is this possible? If I had $1.7 million I would buy a small Tudor home and lavish it with love and pride. Knock it down and pave the lawn over? Not in my DNA. So yes I understand their actions are sort of in-your-face flaunting of their mysteriously acquired millions.

Also I see in the media that the Bukharians say they need large homes for the important extended-family bonding that goes on. I have taken about 50 long walks around those blocks and I rarely see human beings outside the Bukharian homes. All doors are shut. They are eerily quiet. I don't get that.

There is much of this I still don't understand. I actually am quite curious about the Bukharians and would like to meet one and try to understand their point of view.

Queens Crapper said...

Most Bukharians actually don't live this way. They are middle class. Many work in the health care fields.

Don't understand why you are asking if any of the homes are more than 70 years old. Age has little to do with historic status. The buildings have to be a minimum of 30 years old to be considered eligible as an historic district. It has to do more with the character and livability of the neighborhood, which these McMansions are rapidly destroying.

Queens Crapper said...

Most Bukharians actually don't live this way. They are middle class. Many work in the health care fields.

Don't understand why you are asking if any of the homes are more than 70 years old. Age has little to do with historic status. The buildings have to be a minimum of 30 years old to be considered eligible as an historic district. It has to do more with the character and livability of the neighborhood, which these McMansions are rapidly destroying.

Anonymous said...

This post is proof that wealth does not buy class.

casey said...

Hey, I am honored the "Crapper" himself is in the comments here.

I didn't know that 30 years old is the minimum for historic designation. In Cord Meyer, a sprinkling of homes are lovely and well designed. Most of the other, non-McMansions are just regular suburban-looking family homes. As I said, you don't get the feeling of breathtaking awe when you walk through Forest Hills Gardens.

We have a difference of opinion. They are embarassing. They are not destroying. They don't bring traffic or noise violation or crime. The one area I agree with the alarmists is the elimination of grass and the environmental impact.

Anonymous said...

hey Casey:

"We have a difference of opinion. They are embarassing. They are not destroying. They don't bring traffic or noise violation or crime. The one area I agree with the alarmists is the elimination of grass and the environmental impact."

Although you do make a point, don't be surprised when these people run you out of your neighborhood. It may not be right away, but you can bet on it for the future.

Sorry.

casey said...

If someone wants to try to run me out of Queens for saying no to anti-semitism and hate, well, that will prove interesting.

J said...

Just read these main points..
1) Most of you complainers in the Cord Myer area are Ashkenazy(European Jews). During World War II when European Jews were being murdered, many Bukharians were part of the Soviet army fighting the Nazis. Many Bukharians were prisoners of war or murdered trying to defend the Jews of Europe.
2) This article was printed in the NY Times, which a Bukharian owns the NY Times Building. (Lev Leviev) You can google it, ask anyone if you do not believe me. He is one of the biggest Jewish donors.
3) You are disgusted about new mansions being built in the area? I am disgusted when I go back and visit my old neighborhood in Brooklyn(Canarsie/East NY). Almost all of the many Synagogues are closed down. The majority of the community members were American Ashkenazy Jews. You do not want to be in that area at night, but don't worry you will not see any "MC-Mansions" at all.

Anonymous said...

Jews hating Jews....
some thinking that they're better than the others.

That's the stuff that Nazism was made of!

Remember those WW II era upper class German Jews
who insisted that they were German?

The Nazis threw them in the same railway cars on the way to Aushwitz
Bergen/Belsen etc. with their "lower class" Jewish compatriots!

Don't be so f----g smug!
It can all happen again, even in a republic like the USA.

Germany was a republic before the Reichstag was burned down by Hitler's goon squad)!

These Bukharian Mc Mansions are the product of low class, tasteless
assholes. But they have nothing to do with the Uzbeks being Jews!

Anonymous said...

These Russians (Bukharian, Georgians, Ajzerbagian, etc, etc) are true aliens to the prevailing American culture, living here legally only because they are Jews. They are backward, ignorant and believe that somehow they are better that Americans because some of them have made money (mostly illegally).
These people have been under FBI, DEA surveillance for many years - one of those posts have been 65th avenue and 108 St. This place, among others, gathers men that are in their 40's to 60's. lounging around, the entire day and driving cars that are worth close to 100,000 dollars. They live in a sub real world, that pokes continuously fun of regular working Americans. They are the real menace to this country - but they are well protected and the police would rather go after the Mexicans and others that are doing the jobs the rest of us don't want to touch. Why are these Russians not following the usual rout that other immigrants take and do the manual work that is relegated to the Central Americans? How come you can find Polish immigrants working in construction and painting, and you will never find one of these non-Slavic Russians?.

IsraeliBadBoy said...

All you people talk about is how disgusting the houses look, when in reality all the other houses are truly disgusting other than the McMansions. All you people are old fashioned stop thinking in your 90's, we will break and rebuild your neiborhoods however we please. All the houses next to the McMansions make me wanna spit, throw up, and take a shit on their lawns. These McMansions are the only beautiful houses in this community everything else is old crap.

we live in the 21st century seriously we are the ones that will bring NYC into the next century in style. all you people want is fuckin history. take your puctures of history and say goodbye, because it's all going down just give it another 10 - 30 years...than come back and enjoy...you might actually atleast feel rich walking through the neighborhood even though u can't be...BTW i am breath taken when walking, seeing the insane designs of these houses. you can't see this anywhere else in Queens. For the future hope they build bigger, better, in your fucked up jealous ass faces...LMAO...and yes I am an Israel/Buharian and you could Suck my balls...

Anonymous said...

Well there's a comment that just shows the pervasive attitude among these "victims". If you don't like living in the past, why do you guys bring up the Holocaust so much?

IsraeliBadBoy said...

Bukharians only bring up the holocaust for the purpose of all jews and this type of history can never be forgotten. we also bring up being slaves in Egypt. big deal it's part of our religion, and culture to remember our past, so that we could look towards the future and thank G-d for all the blessings he has given us...

on the topic of having grass on your property, lol, first take a trip to that area in forest hills look the grass on the houses of other property, how they won't even trim it. how badly in shape it is. cut your grass, clean your windows , and atleast do some reconstructive work to make your house some what appealing or humane looking.
And why people asking where we get this money, it's simple. Bukharians from uzbekistan were taught to save their money, by not going out every night to restaurants, theaters, etc. we cook at home, work hard, and save. something a lot of you Americans should learn from. And why jugde how somebody enjoys to live. Americans love to live their lives to the minute. while Bukharians like to save, build a house and enjoy the future.

Anonymous said...

"Bukharians only bring up the holocaust for the purpose of all jews and this type of history can never be forgotten. we also bring up being slaves in Egypt. big deal it's part of our religion, and culture to remember our past, so that we could look towards the future and thank G-d for all the blessings he has given us..."

Yet you think it's backwards for Americans to think of our past as part of our culture?

"on the topic of having grass on your property, lol, first take a trip to that area in forest hills look the grass on the houses of other property, how they won't even trim it. how badly in shape it is. cut your grass, clean your windows , and atleast do some reconstructive work to make your house some what appealing or humane looking."

Lawns provide stormwater drainage. I personally don't like 3 feet of water in my basement because the selfish pricks next door decide to pave over their lawns.

"And why people asking where we get this money, it's simple. Bukharians from uzbekistan were taught to save their money, by not going out every night to restaurants, theaters, etc. we cook at home, work hard, and save. something a lot of you Americans should learn from. And why jugde how somebody enjoys to live. Americans love to live their lives to the minute. while Bukharians like to save, build a house and enjoy the future."

Native New Yorkers generally do not go out to dinner every night, and many, if not the majority of us, have more than one job. You are generalizing about people based on what you see on HBO. Yet you have the nerve to say that you are discriminated against by us?

IsraeliBadBoy said...

ye ur basement will get flooded what do you expect. try putting some money into your house and maybe that won't happen. guess what will happen to the McMansions when serious rain hits, nothing, because the basement is locked shut. and stop trying to find these lame ass excuses seriously if u dont like it take your 1.7 million and jump the fuck out, before the metal comes dropping.

Anonymous said...

I just saw this on the news the other day :( Very upsetting.

http://www.my9tv.com/i-team/

Click the "Free Dental Treatment" on the right.

These people are giving everyone a bad name. Scaming and stealing and making life more expensive for all of us.

And surprise surprise, here is one of those big homes in the video.

Where did you say that money comes from?


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http://www.my9tv.com/i-team/

Click the "Free Dental Treatment" article on the right.

Anonymous said...

one thing people....

i invite every bucharian hater, come and live whier we lived, and see how hard life really was. im not getting in to details but the only reason we become so successful in America, comparing to life wheir we lived life here is a piece of cake. so if you want to have fancy houses, nice cars, just a great life in general come walk in the shoes that we and our
parents walked in and ask yourself
one thing, how we got this far?

-Vlad

P.S. every neighborhood we move in to, we bring up the values of properties so if you have a bucharian neighbor thank him
for the extra equity he put in your house when he built his!

Anonymous said...

"every neighborhood we move in to, we bring up the values of properties"

Problem is once you build it, you then can only sell to a Bukharian or a Howard Beach goombah. And Howard Beach goombahs don't want to live next to Bukharians, so that leaves you with one option outside of a Bukharian - sell to an absentee landlord who will carve up the interior and house 50 Mexicans inside.

Jason in Kew Gardens said...

Hey anonymous, great link.

The home of this criminal is actually an original Kew Gardens residence. It is one of the largest in the area. I was told by a friend with a view of the rear that it even has an elevator. They put up the shitty fence/wall thing about half a decade ago and left it incomplete until a few months ago while doing some interior work. I'm sure the inside of this home has been thoroughly crappified. There's also some ridiculous looking gazebo/bandstand in the backyard.

Deportation can't come quick enough for this bum.

Anonymous said...

I said it before and I will say it again. I respect Buharians or anyone else that worked hard and became succesful. God bless them and let them build whatever they want, but these $10 million dollar McMansions are NOT the result of hard work. Anyone who says their are and tha tother people are jelous of that type of success is a liar and does not know what they are talking about. Some people left the Soviet Union percisely so they DON'T have to steal to make a living. Meantime, these criminals (of any nationality) belong in jail for making life harder and more expensive for all of us. They obviosly don't care about other people or the law, why would they care about your grass or sewer?

Joan said...

"At times Id rather move back to Ridgewood or Bushwick or even Mattituck with the dumb rednecks drunks." - Commented by Joe

I wounder why don't you - If that's a better and more secure place for you to live - No big deal - people just get stabbed there once in every while - and houses all look the same built like in communistic setting - to make sure no one gets better. Move, why don't you?? What's the excuse?? Give a good one at least - you seem to have extraordinary thinking abilities.

Joan said...

"What can you expect from a third world people who don't know what good taste is?" - Commented by anonymous

Let me be psychic here - barely got your GED - huh? Forget about higher education; Let alone the taste.

Joan said...

"One tried to kill his 15 year old daughter for coming home from school in shorts and flip flops. She was shaking hiding in my yard. I didnt beleive her at first till the father appeared in MY YARD a butcher knife." - Commented by Joe

Joe can you explain to me:

1. In American society - we have crime happening daily. Deadly crime.
Nixmary Brown - was she or her parents Bucharian Jews?? - Killed the girl, well not for slippers...for yougurt...
Jon Benet Ramsey - was she? - definitely not killed by bucharian
Andrea Yates? - drowned her 5 children
Diana Keene? - killed 2 of her children
David Wasterfield? - Killed Daniel Van Dam
Ashley Pond? - child killed 12y.o.
Jessica Lunsford?
Moxley Martha?.......

2. Do you know that in Forest Hills are only one or 2 registered sex offenders. Ridgewood (where you sometimes consider to live - consists of 27 of these guys who "like" kids? - do you have children? - yea move in to Ridgewood just don't let the kid play alone outside...

Here is U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics - useful website - If you are not a lazy boy sitting with your feet up to the ceiling in infront of computer - look through the websites well - search crime statistics and who commit them - are all these bucharians? Search Crimes. Search History of Mafia in NY and general crime.

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs
Look at the most wanted link and general crimes in - www.fbi.gov

Facts:
Parents kill children... - we have new fashion growing lately - Children killing parents.
And Children killing their fellow classmates by guns owned illegally by their parents.
Children are getting molested, raped, killed - from time to time. By parents, by neighbors, and close friends of family, and strangers too...surprisingly much more rarely.

Most of the offenders are NOT Bucharians. Except few you won't find any.

These are the concerns.
Forest Hills is your wrong focus. Its one of the most secured areas.

Generalizing the single case you have witnessed....Think about it.

Pat said...

It's weird that Joan would be up at all hours of the night writing about how Americans suck. If this is the attitude of Bukharians who come here, then why come? Oh, that's right, America is nothing more than a cash cow for some folks. They come here and the first thing they do is cry disability and get on the public dole. No better than any of the people you whine about. I guess in their culture, not working is what you should aspire to, whereas here, welfare recipients are at least scorned for being lazy.

Joan said...

Honey, I'm not Bucharian -----Americans? - I love Americans and America itself---my friends include African Americans, Hispanics, Bucharians, European and American Jews, Russians, White Americans, Morrocan - what I don't like is people with thinking like you - very limited one - I'm accostomed communicating with smart people, not negative losers. All these Americans I'm friends and acquianted with will agree with me.

P.S. I don't need to stay up all night to type these facts...unlike you and that boy I know what I'm talking about - it takes minutes.

"No better than any of the people you whine about." - That's exactly what I AM talking about - just put it this way - All people in America including Bucharians have its negative as well as positive. So just as there is no reason to trash all Americans as one, there is no reason to trash all Bucharians.

Pat said...

And on that same token, when an asshole American builds a McMansion, such as in the case of Councilman Anthony Como, he is criticized. When Bukharians not only build these things but defend others who do by coming here and posting all kids of defamatory things about Americans, that's ok, and it's the complainers who are racist. Gotta love the thinking.

Queens Crapper said...

By the way, people killing each other has nothing to do with the shithouses that Bukharians are building in what was once a nice section Forest Hills.