Sunday, November 8, 2015

Bad stuff happening in Queens parks lately

From A Walk in the Park:

Four males were slashed with razors inside Flushing Meadows-Corona Park, NYC Park Advocates has learned.

Four men were sitting on a bench inside the park at 11 p.m. on November 4th, when a group of male Hispanics on bikes approached and began cursing.

Two assailants got off the bikes and pulled razors. One slashed a 41-year-old victim in his hand who was on a cell phone causing him to drop the phone.

The attackers picked it up and when the victim's friends protested, the two attackers slashed his three friends as well.

The victims were all male 41 (phone stolen) 28, 28, and 26.

The incident occurred in the park near northeast corner of 49th Avenue and 111th Street within the confines of the 110 Pct.

Police apprehended the suspects on bikes nearby a few hours later at 2:30 a.m. on November 5th.


From A Walk in the Park:

A walk in the park turned into a nightmare for an Asian husband and wife this week when they were mugged in Kissena Corridor Park.

The couple, male, 34, and female, 31 were in the park near 45 Avenue & Colden St. at 8:50pm when they were approached from behind by two assailants in black wearing masks.

One punched the female in the back of the head causing her to fall on the ground. While she was on the floor one held the husband and twisted his arm behind his back and removed $ 50 from the victim's pants pockets.

The perps fled southbound on Colden St. according to police.


From the Daily News:

A Queens man was found dead in a park, cops said Saturday.

The man was found in Forest Park on Myrtle Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd in Kew Gardens on Friday night around 10 p.m., cops said. He was unconscious and unresponsive.

A city Medical Examiner will determine the cause of death.

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

If it were not almost impossible to get a pistol permit in NYC the slashers would not be so bold. They are mostly punks with no guts and if they thought their victims might be armed would have likely prevented this.

Grew up in Queens in the 50s/60s. There were a lot of WWII vets in my neighborhood. and many had weapons and would not put up with punks. Should add that many of the cops were also WWII vets.

Anonymous said...

Blue Flu,blame mayor big mouth
Keep bashing cops,

JQ said...

Enough with this depressing and scary news, we got festival concerts to plan

Anonymous said...

Story #1: Don't the parks close at sundown? It is a bad idea to be loitering in the park after dark. I don't blame the victims, but you can't needlessly put yourself at risk.

Story #2: Bad idea to be walking in that park. Did they ever catch the person who killed that woman (disemboweled?) a few weeks ago?

Story #3: Typical shoddy Daily News reporting. Was he found dead or unconscious and unresponsive? Unconscious and unresponsive implies he was alive. Maybe the Daily News had reported on the start of the zombie apocalypse? LOL!

Anonymous said...

If it were not almost impossible to get a pistol permit in NYC the slashers would not be so bold. They are mostly punks with no guts and if they thought their victims might be armed would have likely prevented this.

Then the thugs would arm themselves equally as fast and be quicker to shoot people. Self-limiting everyday squabbles between law-abiding people whose tempers flare just a little too quickly over parking spaces, spots in line, accidentally bumping someone having a bad day, will be much more likely to escalate from "just another New York moment" deadly scenarios. Stop thinking that every crime problem will be solved by turning NYC into 1850's Kansas. Average people in overcrowded NYC armed with guns would be a nightmare.

Anonymous said...

I do not understand stories about tourism in Queens. Sure, their are the usual places that you can count on one hand - Citifield, Tennis, MOMI, but what else?

Its propaganda that hides the squandering of funds used to promote places that really don't need it, and helps development that tries to make the image as Queens a place that attracts people.

Its no secret among the arts world in the boro: events well publicized with hundreds of hits on social media, and one person shows up.

Unless you are a desperate illegal, the reality of the boro is quite different: it repels people big time.

Anonymous said...

Unconscious and unresponsive is just what the cops say in their press releases, even when someone is obviously dead. Some reporters copy and paste it in their articles.

Anonymous said...

Tourism actually is up in queens. You can have both tourism and crime at the same time. Just ask manhattan.

Molan Labe said...

When seconds count, the Police are only minutes away.

remember:
.. a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen... Supreme Court Ruling
Castle Rock v. Gonzales & Warren v. District of Columbia
YOU HAVE NO INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO POLICE PROTECTION!
The job of the police is to investigate, arrest and charge AFTER a crime is committed.
(and you are dead)

911 - government sponsored Dial a Prayer.

Gun Control:
The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own panty-hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.

just like insurance, airbags, seat-belts and fire extinguishers, I rather have a gun and not need it than need it and not have it.

remember 1992 in Los Angeles, Ferguson, Baltimore, et cetera
it could never happen there, or so they said.
Michael Brown's stepfather: 'Burn this bitch down!'

more info

Anonymous said...

"Then the thugs would arm themselves equally as fast"

Many thugs are already armed and they did not get their guns legally.
Making it easier for good citizens to have guns would have no effect on thugs who carry. The thug knows he can't carry a gun legally.

If a thug knew there was a reasonable chance of running into an armed citizen, they will like move to some other liberal haven like Chicago where there strict gun laws.
But the strict gun laws they have in Chicago have been so successful at reducing gun violence there.

Anonymous said...

Tourism actually is up in queens. You can have both tourism and crime at the same time. Just ask manhattan.

Really? Or is it that the Mets have a better team and attendance is up? Or is it the tourist visas that land and Kennedy is up and (and disappear in the mean streets of Corona or Flushing)?

Where are the tourists going to and where are the numbers coming from?

Anonymous said...


Making it easier for good citizens to have guns would have no effect on thugs who carry. The thug knows he can't carry a gun legally.

You can't see the contradiction in those two statements? Hold-ups in bad neighborhoods end in someone getting shot because the thug knows the person being held up is much more likely to be carrying. Plus the victim isn't typically in the right frame of mind when his or her life is in danger to react appropriately with Clint Eastwood reflexes. Using a firearm correctly in the heat of the moment is even difficult for police who are trained professionally.

If a thug knew there was a reasonable chance of running into an armed citizen, they will like move to some other liberal haven like Chicago where there strict gun laws.
Then why is the 112 precinct in Forest Hills one of the city's safest according to comp stat? Why are tony neighborhoods full of bleeding heart liberals in Westchester, Park Slope, and Douglaston not overrun by violent fiends? Having a lot of liberals has little to do with it. Criminals are opportunistic, not very smart, and find somewhere else to go when the police crack down regularly like they should.


Castle Rock v. Gonzales & Warren v. District of Columbia
YOU HAVE NO INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO POLICE PROTECTION!
The job of the police is to investigate, arrest and charge AFTER a crime is committed.

Yeah, no kidding! The police aren't your personal body guards, and there is no implied contract of specific services on demand. You as a private citizen do not call the shots - you report crimes, and the police act according to the investigative procedures of the agency. Castle Rock v. Gonzales and Warren v. District of Columbia were about the invalidity of bringing personal suits against the PD, because it serves the public. There was no official misconduct, simply not catching the perpetrator on time or at best incompetence in passing along communications that would be dealt with internally to the agency. It would be like suing the fire department because they couldn't save your house - It would open up the door to endless unprovable law suits so that people could recover whatever they could on top of insurance.

Molan Labe said...

Anonymous

i was just trying to educate people that think the government will protect each and everyone, no matter what
in the 2 court cases mentioned, the court ruled that unless there is an agreement (witness protection) you have no individual right to police protection
yes - in both cases the PD screwed up and the court said you can't sue the police
most people think the PD will always be there
my intention is to educate some how fragile society is, like i said look at the recent riots, so take some personal responsibility for the protection of ones family

if we took the gang/drug violence/crime out of the equation, the US would have one of the lowest crime rates in the world
look at Chicago & DC with the strictest gun laws and huge murder rates
We are lucky to have great policing - in general - here in NYC
although an uptick with the end of stop-n-frisk

we also had a 20 year continuous drop in murder & violent crime while gun laws in most of the country relaxed and for the last 8 years the president has been the best gun salesman in the history of the world! gun sales and ownership have skyrocketed
it is a very tough to argue against John Lott Jr's book More Guns, Less Crime with this type of information

you can get a permit and legally carry a concealed handgun in over 40 states without question, as long as you are not a felon and pass a background check.
if you are a citizen and not a felon with no orders of protection - you can carry a gun without a permit in Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Kansas, Maine, Vermont & Wyoming (for state residents)

gang bangers have no regard for life, hence the general disregard for violence and mayhem in the ghettos regardless of weather the other has a gun
but your common street thug is concerned about his own survival - just look at many of their victims, very old and frail or mothers with children
be careful - its a tough world out there

Joe said...

If this tsunami of Mexico and Central America cleaning out the jails and sending these animals across our borders doesnt stop this shit will be eventually be happening in your own homes.
A CCW may be impossible unless your a cop, real estate person or a politician however everybody should at least apply for a home or "hunting" firearm. As good as cops may be its a SURE bet they WONT be around in a life or death situation. In a real emergency these "new" form of street animals will come through your windows looking for food, alcohol, drugs, money etc and they WILL, rape your kids, wife , rob, beat kill you like its nothing (just like in the home country's) You wont be able to retreat far or call 911 (as the bullshit NYC castle doctrine law says you must do first before acting)

There are simply not enough cops to do squat in Queeens. Remember Katrina, Rodney King LA and the Ferguson riots. --Only now we have perhaps millions of worse people and gangs who think nothing of committing murder.

Anonymous said...

Apparently SI has the most gun permits and some of the safest neighborhoods. http://nypost.com/2011/01/23/shoot-siers-sure-love-guns/

Anonymous said...

I am voting for Trump.
Kick out the illegals already !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Molan Labe said...

“It is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.”

Guns are like parachutes: if you don’t have one when you need it, then chances are that you won’t ever be in need of one again.

Whenever someone must buy a license or pay a fee to exercise a right, then it is something less than a right. It is in fact a mere privilege, subject to the whim of petty bureaucrats. Fundamental rights are not abstract tokens that are given or sold by other men. They are in fact primary liberties bestowed upon us by God, our maker. Rights are not substantially secured by asking, "Mother may I?" of any government agency. Rights are more properly demanded or boldly seized and then conspicuously exercised regularly. This secures the liberties that have legitimately belonged to us since birth. If need be, lost rights can and must be restored through proscriptive use. If you live in a land where your rights have been marginalized into privileges, then it is either time to change your government, or to change your address. Much like a muscle that atrophies with disuse, any right that goes unexercised for many years devolves into a privilege, and eventually can even be redefined as a crime.

(sarc) said...

Maybe we should build a Police shack, like they did in Central Park.

We know it will not help, but the powers that be can say they "fixed it" and waste more money...

Anonymous said...

Have to wonder if the shooter at Penn Station had a permit to carry the gun he used.

If someone is OK with shooting someone, do they really care about gun laws.

Anonymous said...

"Then the thugs would arm themselves equally as fast and be quicker to shoot people. Self-limiting everyday squabbles between law-abiding people whose tempers flare just a little too quickly over parking spaces, spots in line, accidentally bumping someone having a bad day, will be much more likely to escalate from "just another New York moment" deadly scenarios. Stop thinking that every crime problem will be solved by turning NYC into 1850's Kansas. Average people in overcrowded NYC armed with guns would be a nightmare."

There's no reason a person needs or should be allowed to own a military type assault weapon. There's also no reason why a law abiding adult, with no criminal record and no history of a mental illness who is willing to pay for the appropriate training from a law enforcement agency and is willing to re-qualify every year shouldn't be allowed to carry a concealed weapon. There has to be room to meet in the middle of this "gun-control" issue. NYC "policy" of routinely denying carry permits is unconstitutional.

Anonymous said...

Guns are like parachutes: if you don’t have one when you need it, then chances are that you won’t ever be in need of one again.

Guns are more than parachutes: they're the skydiving certification, the responsibility not to perform the jump over a populated area, and the respect of air space regulations when you take the plane up there to do it. For all your airy talk of rights, you conveniently make no mention of the rights of others to not be imperiled with the inherent dangers of the tool that is a gun when in the possession of an irresponsible person. That's a cost imposed upon by a 3rd party. I similarly expect people who drive cars to have working brakes. The gun is not an inalienable right bestowed by God. You do know that American law progressed beyond the Declaration of Independence, right?

...who is willing to pay for the appropriate training from a law enforcement agency and is willing to re-qualify every year...

First get the NRA on board with that, and come up with a practical way to take the gun away from people who don't come in to re-certify in a reasonable amount of time, and then we might have something to talk about.

Anonymous said...

FLUSHING MEADOWS IS SO NEGLECTED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT EVENTHOUGH THEY HAVE THEY'RE MAIN OFFICE OF CONSTRUCTION LOCATED THERE. IF SOMEONE LOSES AN I-PHONE IN CENTRAL PARK IT'S FRONT PAGE NEWS. IF SOMEONE GETS STABBED OR ROBBED ANYWHERE ELSE IT GETS 15 1 MINUTE OF COVERAGE AND THEN ITS FORGOTTEN...THIS CITY IS GOING TO THE DUMPS

Molan Labe said...

Hey anon whatever

about skydiving certification

Most states have safety class requirements from 6 to 24 hours (3 days) for a concealed carry permit. Including LIVE FIRE training and testing.

NYC has NONE! You get jerked around for 4 to 8 months of paper shuffling, you get your permit and you have 30 days to buy a gun or your permit expires.
NO GUN = NO PERMIT!
maybe they should do that with cars?
let me repeat, the gun laws you are hailing here in NYC HAVE NO SAFETY OR TRAINING requirements.

look here to see how state after state enacted concealed carry & less and less restrictive gun laws over the last 40 years
If people were to shoot indiscriminately over nonsense, then the laws would have became more restrictive.
The argument has been made over and over in each state as it allows concealed carry, but the law abiding gun owners have manners.

The bus terminal shooting was between two junkies from the methadone clinic - WE NEED TO CHECK THEIR GUN PERMITS! LOL

An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert A. Heinlein

Anonymous said...

An armed society is a polite society

Be armed or be harmed.......

Anonymous said...

NYC has NONE! You get jerked around for 4 to 8 months of paper shuffling, you get your permit and you have 30 days to buy a gun or your permit expires.
NO GUN = NO PERMIT!
maybe they should do that with cars?
let me repeat, the gun laws you are hailing here in NYC HAVE NO SAFETY OR TRAINING requirements.


I have no disagreement with you about the inadequacy of any of these.

The rest of your post is pretty emblematic of multiple reasons as to why this blog gets a bad rap about the people who comment on it. Why, pray tell, are gang bangers less than perfectly polite when any one of them could can and often do pick up a piece at their "homeboy's crib" for protection on the streets?
In your world, there's no gun lobby flexing its political muscle and cash, no difference between a heterogenous urban populace of NYC with 27000 people per square mile and a largely homogenous population of 2000 per square mile in Dubuque Iowa, no trafficking of guns from low regulatory states to high regulatory ones, and no room in general for complexity of opinion. You've got your views all proved out in your own head, with a pithy quote to seal the discussion, and anything less is probably unpatriotic.

Anonymous said...

It is ridiculously hard to get even a residential permit for a gun in NYC. And the criteria for getting a permit seems to have nothing to do with competency, sanity, or need, and everything to do with how connected you are.

Anonymous said...

Notice....Hispanics.
FMCP is a deadly place.

Molan Labe said...

If you follow the instructions on the permit application link I posted above, continue to follow through with the requests of nonsensical paperwork requirements, if you are not a felon, have no arrests, no orders of protection, you will get a NYC home/premise permit. I have watched numerous people go through the process.