Sunday, November 2, 2008

Obama's illegal alien aunt lives off taxpayers

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday he didn't know his aunt was living in the United States illegally and believes that laws covering the situation should be followed.

The Associated Press found that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. The woman, Zeituni Onyango, is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.


Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status

In Boston, Lydia Agro, communications director for the Housing Authority, said Onyango had been screened and approved for public housing as an "eligible non-citizen" when she moved in in 2003. She said the authority is not notified of deportation orders and did not know Onyango was related to Obama until two days ago.

Agro said the authority doesn't believe it needs to take any action to remove Onyango from public housing despite the order.

She said that although Onyango entered the system under federal guidelines in a federal development, she now lives in a state-funded development. State law forbids the authority from even asking Onyango about her immigration status. That means the federal deportation order has no bearing on Onyango's eligibility for the state-funded project where she lives, Agro said.


I really don't care about whether the O-man knew or didn't know about this. But can someone explain why tax dollars are being used to house people who are here illegally and why citizenship isn't a requirement for public housing in this country?

74 comments:

miles mullin said...

Look up "to tweed."

Anonymous said...

Why is a relative of a U.S. Senator living in public housing?

italian girl said...

She's the half-sister of the father that wanted nothing to do with him. How close could they be?

taxpayer said...

The One preached to us that we are our brothers' keepers.

Well, here's his aunt living off of us with no "keeping" from the Messiah, and there's his half-brother, living in a shack in Kenya on a dollar a month, with - again - no "keeping" from "We are the One".

As long as the Messiah doesn't need to inconvenience himself at all, he's happy that the taxpayer has the opportunity to sanctify him or her self by picking up the tab for all the slackers.

Messiah - Commissar - what's the difference?

Anonymous said...

It takes a welfare state to support an Obama relative.

ew-3 said...

IG - he wrote about her in one of his two memoirs, and she attended his swearing in as a senator in 2005. (She was ordered deported by a judge in 2004)

italian girl said...

Well, I won't NOT vote for Obama because his aunt belongs in Kenya. That's stupid.

Didn't we vote for Clinton knowing about his little woman "problems", also? And he turned out just fine.

Don't let those desperate Republicans scare you.

Eight is enough!

Anonymous said...

Maybe you won't vote Republican because a Democratic presidential candidate's relative is a criminal, but I sure will.

Anonymous said...

And this has to do with Queens, how? Of course, Queens, too, has illegals living in public housing, but there were no stories from Queens to illustrate that point?

How about Charlie Rangel's multiple rent-stabilized apartments right here in NYC?

CntrySigns said...

If Obama gets in this will be increased. Not because of a long forgotten Aunt but because the Democrats running feel that people who work hard for their money should "help out" un-educated, lazy people who either can't or won't support themselves.

Queens Crapper said...

"How about Charlie Rangel's multiple rent-stabilized apartments right here in NYC?"

Already wrote about that.

Anonymous said...

Can someone explain to me why the government rejected Onyango's application four years ago? Why was she denied asylum?

Was it because of her African name? Was it because she came from Kenya? Did she have a crime record?

If all she wanted was to live in the freedom and opprtunities that this country provides, why was she rejected?

Answer that, crappy!

Queens Crapper said...

Obviously, it was because she didn't adequately prove that she had been persecuted or feared she would be persecuted in Kenya on account of her race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. Just because you apply for something doesn't mean you automatically get it. Otherwise, Queens would be full of landmarks. :)

Anonymous said...

I cannot wait to visit this site on Wednesday morning.
Obama
Addabbo
Crowley.
I predict there will be a lot of quiet loudmouths on this site Wednesday morning - enjoy your humble pie.

Anonymous said...

Who's on here pining for Maltese and Como other than Gallagher?

Anonymous said...

This is rove nonsense.This sad little post is dredging frivolous mudslinging via the republican do nothing but character assassanation, with no real policy for fixing the countries numerous problems.Complain all you want and we get stuck with paying off bushs 10 billion a month for the last 6 years for Iraq that went to private contractors.THATS a real issue.It doesnt need to cost that much and all the tax money should be accountable.
The "messiah" taxpayer?At least hes not hearing voices from god telling him Putin has a good soul, or he should bomb some country cause bushs voices told him so.Creepy.

Anonymous said...

Let's say there never was a war. Now would this be acceptable? I was waiting to see who would be the first to blame the fact that Obama has an aunt here illegally on the Republicans.

georgetheatheist said...

It will be interesting to see the economic policies that William Ayers will promulgate when appointed Obama's Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare.

Mr. Angry said...

All the mud in the world doesn't answer QC's question - why is an illegal given public housing?

I don't care who's she's related to, and it certainly isn't going to change my vote.

Anonymous said...

everybody in maspeth vote obama =)

Anonymous said...

Everyone in Maspeth? You mean everyone in Trashpeth. Yeah, they'll all vote for Obama. There are lots of new developments (houses) that are sitting vacant. They will be the new "Projects." Obama will let all the illegals in and they can live there. Public housing for all!!!!! More illegals =more illegal ACORN votes. Yeah, lets all vote for OBAMA.

Anonymous said...

trashpeth? dumbass i'm not an immigrant, i lived here all my life. my home is mine and the overdevelopment and immigration is affecting everybody's quality of life, on both sides of the political spectrum so ur black and white political reasoning is trash.and whether or not obama is elected isnt gonna directly affect maspeth anyway. but too damn bad if somebody here actually has different political views than u. +1 for OBAMA.

georgetheatheist said...

If the crypto-Marxist Obama gets in, get ready. The first thing the Bolsheviks do when they come into power is disarm the citizenry:

www.nra.org

Anonymous said...

rhodes scholars.

italian girl said...

NRA!!!???!!!

Hey Georgie, less, not more firearms will do us all good.

Anonymous said...

^ yeai was gonna say that but having a differing opinion w people like that is pointless. maybe russia would be a better place for them to live. less dessenting.

Anonymous said...

It makes perfect sense to make guns illegal. This way, only the criminals will have them.

Anonymous said...

^it's not an easy issue, to be sure. but one mite also argue less guns in anyone's hands is a good thing.

Anonymous said...

(including the scumbag criminals)

georgetheatheist said...

"Italian Girl". Mark me. You will be one of the first ones sent to the concentration camp under the Stalinst Obama-Ayer-Wright triumvirate. Change YOU can believe in. As for me, I'm going down fighting with the shotgun aimed at the front door when this left-wing collectivist scrum come to break my door down.

italian girl said...

Oh Georgie, Obama won't be so bad. You'll see.
What in the world do you need a shotgun for?
No offense, but you seem kinda scary.

Anonymous said...

Politics does make for strange bedfellows- georgetheatheist opposes Obama. I suppose if McCain wins, the atheist can have four more years of griping about religious conservatives in power.

Anonymous said...

One thing I will never understand is how we give free stuff to immigrants ever.

I love that we have legal immigrants. I oppose illegal immigrants but I will never accept giving out free ANYTHING to immigrants legal or illegal.

It's not harsh it’s not racist. If anyone thinks that we built the most powerful and rich country in the history of the world by giving out free stuff to people who immigrate here then they need to study American History. That is not how it happened. Hard work is how it happened.

Come here by all means and the very best of luck to you. In all sincerity I know that the immigrant community is what made the US great, but WORKING immigrants, NOT welfare ones. If you can’t pay your own way find a charity but don’t tread on me.

georgetheatheist said...

Italian Girl: "NRA!!!???!!!" Check it our folks, 3 questions marks and 6 exclamations. Quite the ingenue. Italian Girl, have you ever travelled in America west of the Hudson River? I bet you "summer" in Europe and have never been to the Grand Canyon.

Italian Girl: "What in the world do you need a shotgun for?" Do you remember the photo of the Korean small businessmen wielding shotguns during the LA riots sitting on the roof of their building keeping the rampaging mob at bay?

Italian Girl: "But you seem kinda scary." What's scary about protecting my freedom and property? What's really scary is your wanting to raise the capital gains tax and destroying the American incentive for investment.

Anonymous: "The atheist can have four more years of griping about religious conservatives in power." Elect Obama and you will have REAL religious conservatives in power - Wahabists.

Anonymous said...

to the poster who says free stuff for immigrants is wrong, i COMPLETELY agree with u. that's spoonfed socialism etc. and yes i support obama. i dont think the two are exclusive.

Anonymous said...

Whats going on now is nothing considering what the future holds.
BO was born in Kenya and refuses to provide his birth papers. This whole election is illegel

People will be begging for the NRA people if Obama looses or gets tossed for lieing.

Blacks will think the election was "stolen" and go friggan nuts.
The police, what sever left in the National Guard armarys will be overwhelmed and useless

If elected Obama and the Democrats will throw the Constution straight down the turlet. Its going to be socialism on a massive scale.

If McCain wins its Bush III and a merge with Mexico.

No matter what The USA will soon be history its just a matter of time !

-Joe said...

Italian Girl
Like said
If that Marxist Obama gets in he will disarm the citizenry and all "un-recognized" Milita.

Only Criminals will have guns, untraceable un-registered guns at that!!

It wont be lone before some nut group WILL pulls another 911 to test Obama

What happens when all the tweeds go nuts and come to your house to rape take money, jewelery, food, cars like they do in there home countrys ?

Do you think the cops will be around to fight a half million unknown animals in this city or at home protecting there own familys?

-Joe

faster340 said...

OMG some of you people are crazy. A lot of you have been watching way too much TV... You act as if this is going to be a post-apocalyptic world if Obama gets into office and the masses are going to come rape your women and pillage your house your house with torches and such.

Besides, this post was about why an "illegal alien lives off taxpayers"...

And do you know everything about your relatives and what they are doing? I sure as hell don't...

Taxpayer said...

"But can someone explain why tax dollars are being used to house people who are here illegally and why citizenship isn't a requirement for public housing in this country?"

That was the question.

No answer because there is no good answer.

Try entering France or Germany illegally, and, then, after that, demanding total public support for all your wants and needs.

The fact that the US is the most attractive and appealing nation on earth since the apple-eating incident, does not impose any obligation on taxpayers to support any freeloading slacker who breaks into our country.

It's unnatural to expect that we should.

By the way, all who oppose welfare for slackers, stay alert for the news today that Obama's illegal alien slacker freeloading aunt is registered and poised to vote. If she is, do you think she's voting for McCain?

Taxpayer said...

"The "messiah" taxpayer?At least hes not hearing voices from god telling him Putin has a good soul, or he should bomb some country cause bushs voices told him so.Creepy."

What's really creepy is that your revealed to the world your inability to think based on fact.

Did you hear Bush say he heard any "voices", from God or even me regarding Putin or going to war?

Historical fact is that congress authorized and ordered going into Iraq. Remember? Deal with it!

Clinton, Kerry (before/after), and all the other Democrats voted to invade. Bubba Clinton made it the official US policy to remove Hussein (perhaps he and the harridan had ESP and meant Obama).

Your heroes left us vulnerable and then it took Bush to flush the toilet of their filth.

italian girl said...

Hey georgie, you ARE scary! Ever thought about moving to somewhere down south? Sounds like that's where you belong, you NRA freak. I picture a little log cabin with at least 20 miles of woods around you. Good fit, huh?

italian girl said...

Joe, don't you think you're exaggerating just a little?

georgetheatheist said...

Italian "Girl". Of course I scare you because you are a panty-waist liberal.

"Oh Georgie, Obama wont be so bad. You'll see."

Hey Folks, the Italian "Girl" is ready to vote for a candidate who refuses to even let us see his birth certificate or medical records.

(Remember it's your constitutional right: www.nra.org)

italian girl said...

Is the election making you nuts? Don't worry, your guy could win after all. You never know. And you can point your shotgun at you front door all you like. Just try not to blast me away.

"panty-waist liberal?"
OMG

Anonymous said...

georgetheatheist,

I don't know which far-right pundit you get your opinions from, but it's time you introduce a badly-needed wrinkle to your cerebrum.

You CAN NOT have it both ways. Either you try and convince us Obama is a muslim, or you lambast him for his ties to Jeremiah Wright. But it's not credible to mention BOTH in the same breath. Wright is a minister. A Christian. Obama attended his church, thus he is a Christian.

Straighten out your argument, then try again.

Anonymous said...

Why? We have Jews for Jesus, don't we?

georgetheatheist said...

Anonymous: "It is not credible to mention BOTH in the same breath."

Sure it is. The Musselman fundamentalists hate America (Sept. 11). The Rev. Wright hates America. ("God damn America.")

America is The Philosophical Good: Life, Liberty, and the Individual's Pursuit of Happiness.

My right wing pundit is the great philospher/novelist Ayn Rand.

georgetheatheist said...

www.aynrand.org

Anonymous said...

Oh Georgie, Obama wont be so bad. You'll see."
Hey Folks, the Italian "Girl" is ready to vote for a candidate who refuses to even let us see his birth certificate or medical records.
The so called atheist is a real nut case.Why did Cheney fly the Wahabi Saudis out of the country two days after 911?????You dont know do?Its because they can do want they want because they oil buddies.This is small petty stuff that is not comparable to two election messes.

Anonymous said...

Suppressing the vote has long been a cornerstone of the GOP's electoral strategy. Shortly before the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980, Paul Weyrich — a principal architect of today's Republican Party — scolded evangelicals who believed in democracy. "Many of our Christians have what I call the 'goo goo' syndrome — good government," said Weyrich, who co-founded Moral Majority with Jerry Falwell. "They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. . . . As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."

Today, Weyrich's vision has become a national reality. Since 2003, according to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, at least 2.7 million new voters have had their applications to register rejected. In addition, at least 1.6 million votes were never counted in the 2004 election — and the commission's own data suggests that the real number could be twice as high. To purge registration rolls and discard ballots, partisan election officials used a wide range of pretexts, from "unreadability" to changes in a voter's signature. And this year, thanks to new provisions of the Help America Vote Act, the number of discounted votes could surge even higher.

Passed in 2002, HAVA was hailed by leaders in both parties as a reform designed to avoid a repeat of the 2000 debacle in Florida that threw the presidential election to the U.S. Supreme Court. The measure set standards for voting systems, created an independent commission to oversee elections, and ordered states to provide provisional ballots to voters whose eligibility is challenged at the polls.

But from the start, HAVA was corrupted by the involvement of Republican superlobbyist Jack Abramoff, who worked to cram the bill with favors for his clients. (Both Abramoff and a primary author of HAVA, former Rep. Bob Ney, were imprisoned for their role in the conspiracy.) In practice, many of the "reforms" created by HAVA have actually made it harder for citizens to cast a ballot and have their vote counted. In case after case, Republican election officials at the local and state level have used the rules to give GOP candidates an edge on Election Day by creating new barriers to registration, purging legitimate names from voter rolls, challenging voters at the polls and discarding valid ballots.

To justify this battery of new voting impediments, Republicans cite an alleged upsurge in voting fraud. Indeed, the U.S.-attorney scandal that resulted in the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales began when the White House fired federal prosecutors who resisted political pressure to drum up nonexistent cases of voting fraud against Democrats. "They wanted some splashy pre-election indictments that would scare these alleged hordes of illegal voters away," says David Iglesias, a U.S. attorney for New Mexico who was fired in December 2006. "We took over 100 complaints and investigated for almost two years — but I didn't find one prosecutable case of voter fraud in the entire state of New Mexico."

Anonymous said...

My right wing pundit is the great philospher/novelist Ayn Rand.
OK.The "free market"works real well MR fantasy land.
With Bear Stearns, Fannie and Freddie, AIG, the money markets and now this omnibus bailout, well in excess of $1 trillion will be distributed from the poor, workers and middle class to the scum floating on top.
This whole mess gives lie to the free market. The Feds are propping up stock prices, directing buyouts, subsidizing crooks and swindlers who already made a killing off the mortgage bubble.

Worst of all, even before any details have been hashed out, “Wall Street began looking for ways to profit from it,” and its chief financial correspondent writes that the Bush administration wants “Congress to give them a blank check to do whatever they want, whatever the cost, with no one able to watch them closely.”

Anonymous said...

We are defenseless v. ICBs but Sen. O wants to cut military spending: OK I guess a woman's fictional right to choose trumps that!

georgetheatheist said...

Anonymous wrote: " The 'free market' works real well MR fantasy land." "This whole mess gives lie to the free market."

You're standing on your head, pal.

Government MANIPULATION (via the Federal Reserve) of money, MANIPULATION of credit and lending standards over several decades caused the financial crisis we are now in. NOT the so-called machinations of the free-market. THERE WAS NO FREE MARKET AT WORK.

And what is the proposed remedy? More of the same poison for the sickened economy. More bailouts, cheap money and government guaranteed loans.

It reminds me of the ancient practice of blood-letting. Call a barber to cut open the veins of the sick!

Separation of Church and State. Separation of the Economy from Government.

www.aynrand.org

Anonymous said...

*Reserve) of money, MANIPULATION of credit and lending standards over several decades caused the financial crisis we are now in. NOT the so-called machinations of the free-market. THERE WAS NO FREE MARKET AT WORK.
Well if you live the ayn rand school of thought well thats fine but the same free market folks(cheney,Friedman,rockefeller)have proved absolutely to be robber barons.There is a free market they love at work.The "reserve" you speak of is borrowed from China and both sides know it cant be paid back anytime soon so we take theyre milk powder by the tons contaminated with melamine.
No more bailouts would be a great idea because it promotes little johnny Wall streets great gambles but gives them brand new bank to paly with.There is no government money in the bank.Its all bonds from China and Saudi Arabia, with a little taken out of the social security fund.
What would Ayn Rand expect to happen? On the one hand we have the hot shot executives, on the other hand the schmucks who own stock in these banks. Would Ayn Rand expect that the executives would put aside their ambition, their lust for success, their greed, in order to benefit shareholders who are too dumb to even know what a credit default swap is?

Ayn Rand would watch the Wall Street big boys run roughshod over their shareholders' interests and be applauding them every step of the way. That is how the game is played. If Greenspan didn't think the Wall Street crew would rip off their shareholders for every last penny, then he was not a worthy disciple of Ayn Rand.

Anonymous said...

Let's say there never was a war. Now would this be acceptable? I was waiting to see who would be the first to blame the fact that Obama has an aunt here illegally on the Republicans.
Thats Cute.And hes a terrorist,christian kkk hater,sneaky white\black man,that wants to turn this country into marxism?These rantings are just baseless so keep it up.Is it acceptable for palin to rile people up enough at rallies (heil)to have peole say"kill him" "terrorist", and racial slurs??Do the rabid folks on here know that Todd palin and sarah are part of the successionist party of Alaska and the founder Volger promoted attac ks on America.See she was miss big time, not a community organizer.
"My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."

This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.
Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. ("Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you.")

Anonymous said...

somebody wrote: "BO was born in Kenya and refuses to provide his birth papers."

I guess you know that John McBush
was born in Panama?

Anonymous said...

John McCain was born in Panama because his father was in Military Service to this nation.

Both his parents were American and that makes him a natural born citizen.

As to Obama I really (truly) don't have any facts and unless/until I did I would not go there.

I just won't remain silent while a dirtball insults the US Military who sacrifice in so many ways, one of which is dragging their families across the globe to ensure your freedom to be a complete (that's 100%) assh#le.

One of the many freedoms we enjoy in this great country is the right to remain silent.

It might be a good time to exercise that right.

Anonymous said...

I'd rather rely on my double ought brains than a magnum load of buckshot in a 12 gage pump gun.

Georgie, do you have such an undersized penis that you have to overcompensate with the need of a shotgun?

Maybe moving up to Idaho
and joining a posse is your best option.

georgetheatheist said...

Anonymous. A lot of good your "double ought" brains will do when the rampaging mob comes through your door and window. Remember you have to "share the wealth" now.

PS Monkey Spanker. My girlfriends just love the caliber of my pistola. Unfortunately you can only get a date from Mr. Hand. Why not visit your local barber and ask him to shave your palm?

www.nra.org

Anonymous said...

Georgie...
we know you're great at runnin'
off at the mouth but your pistola's shootin' blanks these days...
I'd surmise!

italian girl said...

"...Remember you have to "share the wealth" now."

Hey Georgie, if you're so worried about sharing the wealth, that means you must have quite a few pretty pennies, am I right? If so, that's great for you. But you have nothing to worry about. The rich will always do well as usual. So, you have to pay a few more thousand in taxes. Is it the end of the world? You'll see things will be great under Obama. I promise.

Oh and in regards to where I "summer" - in my backyard. You have quite a false impression of me. I'm not quite the jet setter you think.

georgetheatheist said...

"Ragazza" Italiana.

"You'll see things will be great under Obama. I promise." It's nice to know you're clairvoyant.

"The rich will always do well as usual." Really? Capital gains taxes increased and the abolition of the Bush tax cuts.

Husein, the Bullshit-Artist-in-Chief, will destroy the economic incentive to create new wealth and jobs.

You have the mistaken belief that all the rich do is sit around and count their money, like Scrooge McDuck. MONEY IS invested in capital creation to lift the economic tide beneficial to everyone.

Next summer, while sitting around in your backyard, read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged and get a real economic/philosophical education. Or better yet, do it now.

Ridgewoodian said...

Georgetheathiest: My right wing pundit is the great philospher/novelist Ayn Rand.

Government MANIPULATION (via the Federal Reserve) of money, MANIPULATION of credit and lending standards over several decades caused the financial crisis we are now in. NOT the so-called machinations of the free-market. THERE WAS NO FREE MARKET AT WORK.


Hmmmm....interesting that all that happened with Greenspan, a devoted Randian, as the head of the Fed for twenty years. Also interesting that he recently "conceded that his free-market ideology shunning regulation was flawed."

And I know that de gustibus non est disputandum but Ayn Rand? AYN RAND? Come on, she was a TERRIBLE novelist.

Ridgewoodian said...

GEORGETHEATHIEST: A lot of good your "double ought" brains will do when the rampaging mob comes through your door and window. Remember you have to "share the wealth" now.

And you think progressive taxation leads to rampaging mobs because...why? Your evidence that this little paranoid fantasy is going to happen anywhere outside your fevered little brain is what? I think you've been wanking too much to Red Dawn and The Turner Diaries, boyo-o.

italian girl said...

So Georgie, if the Bush economic policies were so beneficial to our country, then why has Wall Street imploded?

Why was this country in good shape economically under Clinton? And I'm asking you seriously.

Anonymous said...

Ah...leave the "man" alone
and let him nurse his post election day hangover!

"Georgie" is one of those many disgruntled Republican conservative throwbacks who just lost his childhood "hero"...
Superman/John Mc Cain!

It also sounds like he has no faith in highly intelligent people of color being capable as commander in chief of our great nation.

Your party had
better wake up and get with the program.

This is 2008 and not the 1860s!

Perhaps now the phrase from the Declaration of Independence will have its fulfillment.

"ALL MEN (and women)
ARE CREATED EQUAL"!

I'm proud (with goosebumps)
to be an American
and still alive to have witnessed this day!

(P.S. I also happen to be "White"
if that has any real meaning).

Other than this...I love all your posts George...really!

georgetheatheist said...

Ayn Rand attended the swearing-in of her "acolyte" Alan Greenspan to Gerald Ford's Council of Economic Advisors in 1974.

Rand died in 1982.

5 year later, Reagan appointed Greenspan to be head of the MANIPULATIVE Federal Reserve in 1987.

There was a minor earthquake at Kensington Cemetery in Valhalla, NY as the great novelist/philospher turned over in her grave.

On October 24, 2008, the Director of the Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights, Yaron Brook, issued a press release: "GREENSPAN HAS NO FREE MARKET PHILOSOPHY" (www.aynrand.org)

Quod erat demonstrandum.

As for the rampaging mobs, the future has yet to be written... I was a Boy Scout and have a laminated card in my wallet that sez; "Be prepared." IF and when the rabble come down my street, me and "Ole Betsy" will be at the ready. Of course, you,Ridgewoodian, will be prepared to discuss Wittgenstein with their leader.

italian girl said...

I'm almost afraid to ask, but Georgie what's with the quotation marks around girl or ragazza?

"I'm proud (with goosebumps)
to be an American
and still alive to have witnessed this day!"

Anonymous - you couldn't have said it better.

georgetheatheist said...

Italian "girl".

Aren't you a "woman"?

Your opinions seem to me to be unsophisticated and somewhat "girlish".

But "girl" is how you characterize yourself.

Amen.

georgetheatheist said...

PS Wall Street "imploded" because of Democratic policies: promoting mortgages to people who had lousy credit and wouldn't have normally qualified for one. (Affectionately known on this blog site as "the tweeded.")

This economic crisis is a result of "for the working-man" Democratic policies.

And watch, it's going to get worse under this cipher bullshit artist, Husein Obama.

italian girl said...

"Aren't you a "woman"?"

"Woman" implies someone older which I'm not.

"Your opinions seem to me to be unsophisticated and somewhat "girlish"."

I didn't realize I had to be a member of Mensa in order to have a conversation with you. What are you a professor? :)

But "girl" is how you characterize yourself.

You know, just for you, on my next post I'll call myself something else - a name my dad has called me all my life.

Amen.

Ridgewoodian said...

GEORGETHEATHIEST: Quod erat demonstrandum.

What’s demonstrated? An obscure foundation director made a pronunciation against an (until-recently) widely respected public figure. That’s not “proof” of anything, except a difference of opinion between said obscure foundation director and said sometimes widely respected public figure. Unless the foundation director is as infallible ex cathedra as the Pope in Rome. But to accept that would be an act of faith and not of reason and against the precepts of Objectivism as I understand them. But maybe you all really are the cult that you seem to be and not an honest school of philosophy. In which case you might as well be Scientologists. Honestly, between Xenu and Howard Roark I’d choose Xenu.

Also, absolutely unregulated markets are as stupid an idea as no markets at all.

GEORGETHEATHIEST: I was a Boy Scout and have a laminated card in my wallet that sez; "Be prepared."

Yeah, I was a scout, too. But you still haven’t answered the question as to why you should be prepared for THAT eventuality in particular. Doesn’t seem terribly likely. What’s your evidence that it is? I mean, sure, ANYTHING can happen in this world, why not stress out over being flattened by a rogue meteor or being consumed when the dead rising to feast on the flesh of the living?

Anonymous said...

ig - georgetheatheist IS a professor. isnt it obvious he hasnt taken his nose out of a book in decades?

hey george, get out once in a while, huh.

georgetheatheist said...

Ridgewoodian: "...interesting that all that happened with Greenspan, a devoted Randian, as the head of the Fed for twenty years."

Can you follow the bouncing ball of my previous post? Greenspan was appointed head of the Fed 5 years after The Great Objectivist's demise. Perhaps the clairvoyant, Italian "girl", can channel Rand's ghost to see if she would have approved.

The "devoted Randian" Greenspan has yet to clarify the contradiction of being said "devotee" and head of that interventionist body, the Fed.

Greenspan's silence is deafening. And the media does not ask this question.

Xenu over Roark? Fantasy over Reality? Consciousness over Existence? I'll be merciful, Ridgewoodian, you can always hit the "delete this comment" button and relegate your for-all-the-world-to-see stupidity into the ether.

PS The rogue meteor does sometimes give me agita. But zombies? Nah, they exist only in your limited intelligence.

PPS A future scenario. A parlor in Ridgewood.

Obama Marauder peering through the smashed window : "Yo, where you hiding the TV?"

Ridgewoodian cowering behind the settee: "Over by the Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus. And please go easy on my anus."