From the Daily News:
A new City Council effort would eliminate costly and cumbersome runoff elections in favor of instant runoffs in which voters would rank candidates to choose their favored contender in a primary election.
Backers of the proposal plan to introduce a bill in the Council on Wednesday that would put the matter to a voter referendum. It could take effect as early as 2017.
Supporters say the new system could avoid the difficulties expected this year as the Board of Elections warns that it won’t have time to reset new electronic voting machines in the two weeks between the September primary and the runoff expected if no candidate receives at least 40% of the vote. It could also save taxpayers about $20 million.
32 comments:
Can't reset an electronic system in 2 weeks? What horse sh*t. The current state of the art system is a loser and should be trashed - the steps are subject to polling worker fraud - yet alone add this scheme to confuse voters even more so. A vote is sacred don't let these POLS steal yours - you have nothing left except this!
Maybe this is a good proposal
that will wind up saving us some time and money.
Just like in a horse race--
you get to bet "win, place and show".
It is about time to use this method to toally eliminate primaries, petitions and party bosses the wat George Washington wanted us to be non-partisan.
Isn't democracy grand?
Welcome to Bloomturd's New World Order...
or is it New World Odor???
Abolish the Board of Elections
Hey, those four on that ballot are sure better than anyone who is really running
BOE is a half-way house for ex-cons and ex-loons awaiting pre-frontal lobotomies. The old sorting equipment the post ofice is getting rid of could eliminate four-fifths of those "jobs".
Awaiting? Recuperating from!
BOE is a half-way house for ex-cons and ex-loons awaiting pre-frontal lobotomies.
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If truth be told, I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Should I run again?
Very poor idea. In Oakland California the Mayor Quan came in 4th place but was second choice for many.
As a result the 4th place finisher is now the Mayor and the city is in dismal hands, she is so over her head that it's shameful.
Sounds great on paper, but a disaster waiting to happen.
What a pathetic joke it is that the "WORST" president in our history has been propagated as being the best, and the eloi/sheeple out there just gobble it down without knowing their history or asking any questions. The Central government and their paid court historians in academia and the ministry of lies media has done a bang up job pushing this disgraceful version of history over the last 150 years. A complete brain washing that even Minister Goebbels would be proud of.
Yes it is true...the Republican Neo-Con party of today is very similar to the "Lincolnian Republicans," the National Unionists of the day. The great Thomas Jefferson was the originator of the TRUE "Republican" party...Those "different" parties had very different beliefs. None of which had slavery at its core. We have had very few Jeffersonians since the War of Northern Aggression...Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge, and Ronald Reagan is about where it ends...The rest are Progressive scum and Neo-Con crony capitalist slime.
Lincoln "saved" the union "geographically," But, destroyed it philosophically. He "killed off" the Founders voluntary republic and replaced it with the Centralized Leviathan we have today. A union held together by force is NO Union. HE IS THE WORST PRESIDENT and is a true Monster for tearing up the constitution and invading the South leading directly to the death of 750,000 Americans (it really can't get worse than that...can it?)...A true Statesman would have made ending slavery "peacefully" his mission (like every other Country in the Western World had done ending slavery peacefully, without all out war.) Instead his career before the presidency was focused on the Black Codes in Illinois that banned free blacks from moving there and stripping them of most rights. He wanted them out of the country and moved to Liberia and didn't want them taking the white man's jobs. He and his generals are also monsters for changing for the first time the rules of war and targeting civilians and condoning the mass destruction and theft of their property.
In 1848 Lincoln supported an amendment to the Illinois constitution that prohibited the immigration of blacks into the state. In 1853 the Illinois Black Code WAS extended to a "complete prohibition" against black immigration into the state! Lincoln supported a myriad laws and regulations in his career in Illinois that deprived the small number of free blacks in the state of any semblance of citizenship....LOL what a humanitarian...(A True Proto Liberal.)
Yes, folks, John from Conn seems to be referring to that ridiculous graphic on this post which shows a hand voting for Abraham Lincoln, a dictatorial tyrannical American ruler if there ever was one. And the current Queens County Republican Party celebrates this monster with a dinner in February!
The graphic shows the great true "Republican" Jefferson coming in third! AND George Washington is chopped liver. Hey Queens County Moron Republicans, why not have a Jefferson Day Dinner?
This site is s-o-o educational.
John from Conn:
What does that have to do with revising the way that voting is conducted in a primary?
You see...the propaganda is so well entrenched that good people can easily miss the subliminal mind scrubbing by "the centralizers"...Breaking entrenched paradigms is never easy, especially when political power, academic careers, and grants are based passing on the "party line" and protecting the status quo.
My problem is with the supposed opposition party, the socialist lite Neo-Con/RINO Republi-cant's of today (like those in Queens county and CT that remain an echo not a choice) that do not read or properly understand our history. Those that suckle up to the Lincoln name because they think it helps their image and makes them look "diverse" in the eyes of the Jesse Jackson's of the world. "See Lincoln was a Republican...we are a diverse party...we love blacks and freed the slaves...BS."
"Government centralization" is what allows any bad "-ism" to come about...whether communism, socialism, mercantilism, crony capitalism, obamunism, etc. The Founders original "de-centralized" republic and the "Jeffersonian strict construction" of the constitution were intended to prevent such tyranny. King Lincoln was truly "The Great Centralizer." He also planted the roots for almost everything bad that this country is experiencing economically today...including, paper money, the IRS, and the Income Tax....the list goes on and on...
It is no coincidence that Karl Marx & Adolph Hitler, were big fans of Dishonest Abe and his centralizing techniques. The Communist Party USA put up big posters of Lincoln...and the Socialist A.Lincoln Brigade loved him too. Wake up people...there is not much time left!
John from CT: Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!
Hey Phil Ragusa, did you catch that moniker "Republi-cant"? That's you. Think about it when you groggily look in the mirror tomorrow upon awakening.
John - It would help if you didn't talk down to people, and speaking in political cliché when it comes to people who you disagree with ("Sheepie" is a new one that's been bouncing around lately).
Crapper's post is about an attempt to make it easier for the political process to be carried out in the city (and I can see how it would actually be counter-productive); You didn't discuss tha, but chose instead to first attack Abraham Lincoln, and then a whole lot of other people across the political spectrum with one shotgun blast. Sort of anarchistic to me.
Make it clear. What do you want to accomplish?
Good use of one of the new political clichés, John - "Sheepies." A bunch of people have been bouncing that one around lately. There
s nothing new under the sun.
If there is one supreme pleasure the current administration offers, it is watching the derangement of crackpots from Hicktown reacting to it.
The pertinent issue here is; why did we, the taxpayers, purchase a new voting system that is procedurally-technically incapable of handling a simple matter such as a runoff?
Why are we now looking at reinstating fifty-year old mechanical voting machines?
Incompetence? Perfidy?
I would be surprised if more than 5% of the human rubbish now populating Queens know about the names on the ballot in the picture. They probably think they are candidates.
Anon No. 19 - That's what it seems like they're doing for this year. The shame is that they probably are better than the new machines.
First of all, it is sheeple, not sheepie. And what? no credit for the deep thinking term "Eloi?"
What I am trying to accomplish is ed-u-ma-cation. Where in the constitution does it say anything about "democracy?" When you allow yourself to be herded into special interest voting blocks (or little gangs,) you spend all your time thinking about how to vote away other people's property and you miss things like Federalist #10 written by the sage of Montpelier. The constitution was written to stop the tyrannical effects of democracy or what might be stated more aptly as "mobocracy." In #10, he also talks about the problems of "factions" (parties) and why the tyranny of the majority is no better than that of an individual King or a group of Oligarchs. The answer is to restore the proper balance of liberty and order and the proper government structure which Lincoln destroyed. You need to understand as Mr. Jefferson and the "Real Republicans" knew, why a "Federal Republic" is necessary to sustain liberty. Also, the great Anti-Federalists, (the true Federalists) like Patrick Henry and the Centinel (Samuel Bryan), predicted the problem of imperium in imperio (The Federal government engulfing the States) and knew all too well what clever "scholars" and shifty life time appointed attorneys (judges) in the future would do to twist/turn that "original contract" between the people of the sovereign States into what ever they wanted it to be...including a free pass on slaughtering 750,000 Americans in the "War to Prevent Southern Independence." In a the true Confederated Republic you had the option of trying to change things at your state level (not by direct vote, but by "enlightening politicians" [not you Ragusa] that are supposed to act as the cooling saucer for the masses.) If you couldn't get in good enough politicians, you were free to leave wretched places like Queens and vote with your feet and move to another State that better shared your values (certainly not CT.) Unfortunately today, you are stuck under one homogenous Federal blanket. A command and control style system "dictated to you" from Mount Olympus or in this case, Mount Washington.
Hey George, you must especially like Federalist #49, by the same Mr. Madison which states, "A reverence for the laws would be sufficiently inculcated by the voice of an enlightened reason." "Reason is needed over passion and it alone ought to control and regulate the government."
Terrific, the crazy people who leave their absurd, tin-foil-on-their-heads commentary on major news websites have discovered Queens Crap. How sad.
Back to the topic at hand... the instant runoff idea would be absolutely great in NYC. Not only would it save the city substantial money, but it would also-- in many respects-- save the parties from themselves. Maybe-- just maybe-- this will help us elect some quality people to serve us in City Hall.
What's with the "new world order" stuff?
It sounds like we have a Mary Jane puffing hippie Marxist here.
Buddy, the 1960s have long passed.
LSD ain't good for your gray cells.
So what do you propose, John? Say it in plain English. Or do you know what you want?
That paean to Reason seems quite reasonable. Problem with the Eloi is they don't think, they only feel. ("Free health care!", "Kill my Landord!"))
Folks, the head must rule the heart.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What's with the "new world order" stuff?
It sounds like we have a Mary Jane puffing hippie Marxist here.
Buddy, the 1960s have long passed.
LSD ain't good for your gray cells.
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Sounds like you're living in denial.
Sure, George, but the hed first has to tell the heart what it wants.
Oh look! "George" wants us to know he's been reading H. G. Wells...With finger, of course.
No, the gas bags actually fear they can blow smoke to keep from getting their BOE jobs eliminated. It don't work. They'z history.
Living in denial? NO! Living drug free? YES!
Go peddle your fascist (make that feces) conspiracy theories elsewhere...YAWN!
Living in denial? NO! Living drug free? YES!
Go peddle your fascist (make that feces) conspiracy theories elsewhere...YAWN!
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YOU need psychiatric help---STAT!!!
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