From NY1:For some Long Island City residents, the sound of idling train engines plow through their day.
Over the last two years, the LIRR has turned off some of the engines during the day and placed some trains in other parts of the rail yard as part of a compromise, but some residents said the noise is starting to increase again.
It is a harsh reality for new residents moving to the once-industrial area. The rail yard has been there for more than 100 years, but residents want the diesel engines turned off during the day.
LIRR spokesperson Joe Calderone said while the Metropolitan Transportation Authority has been addressing some of the community's concerns, shutting down all the trains during the day is not going to be possible.
From 2nd Avenue Sagas:
Meanwhile, as the East Side Access project moves forward, train-related noise will only increase for Long Island City residents. Within the next five years, more trains will head into Grand Central via the area and the rail yard will continue to serve as a holding pen for eastbound trains. For a century, as New Yorkers eschewed the area, the trains weren’t a problem, but with gentrification comes complaints. Unfortunately, for residents though, the train yard isn’t going anywhere.
16 comments:
So now, yuppie which is it:
1) You bought into some Madison Avenue poof's gushing ad blurb..and didn't bother to really check out the place and it's environs..
Or
2) You thought just by gracing the area with your presence those trains would go silent and picturesque.
Which is assholes?
Written by a Manhattanite who knows noise and deals with it.
Yuppie brat babies.
I have those same Diesel electrics in Mattituck 1000 feet away.
They aren't that bad you can only (slightly) hear them when they are throttling up to get moving.
NIMBY PIMBY, YUPSTERS
LOL...you poor dear little hipsters!
Got fleeced by real estate agents...did ya?
Who told you to move to LIC? It's an industrial area. Has been for 200 years. You guys are really stupid.
I grew up in that area and, well, wow, what did they expect. This is not an issue that is going to go away anytime soon.
It is a problem the city, which gave the developers the go ahead without any planning to come up with a solution.
They wanted to "Build Up" LIC for the last 5o years and have finally started the process. Yet, once again, did not plan it thru.
Oh, you poor little mid west pussies.
You bought your "luxury" condos in LIC and expected the peace and quiet of the great plains.
Noise is just the city's music.
Learn to dance to it or move back home to mom & dad's place and resume square dancing.
No, you can't have your money back.
The deal is done.
I've already deposited my commission check.
Good luck re-selling your new condo.
But if you want...I'll be your sales agent for a discount fee.
I laugh at the schmucks who bought "luxury" apartments across from this yard. I have been there in my car and those trains are not only loud during the day, they emit a low pitched deep rumbling that you can feel. And it is constant, as many of these trains idle for hours during the day. The noise is not negligible or insignificant. Guess they should have done due diligence.
I'll bet that 90% of the people complaining went to took at their condos on a weekend, when the LIC yard is empty. Oh well, should have checked it out
Shouldn't these whiners be more worried about the fact that their buildings (and soon, a new school) are built on top of brownfields?
Maybe this is a dumb question, but why does the LIRR need to run the engine for a train not in motion?
Anonymous said...
Maybe this is a dumb question, but why does the LIRR need to run the engine for a train not in motion?
This was explained in media reports. According to an MTA spokesman, if these trains are shut off for more than 4 hours a startup procedure including brake test must be performed.
Personally, I expect that more engines could be shut but it is somehow cheaper to run them.
http://www.ny1.com/content/137756/long-island-city-locals-short-on-patience-for-idle-trains
They also feed additional power into the track and for refrigeration cars (Beef and frozen goods)
Anonymous said...
They also feed additional power into the track and for refrigeration cars (Beef and frozen goods)
Wednesday, April 27, 2011
WHAT? They are diesel trains, not electric! They don't feed power back to the tracks.
Actually they do. In electric mode, these locomotives utilize regenerative braking that feeds power back in to the 3rd rail.
Once again, stupid people who THINK they know what they are talking about but they dont.
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