Thursday, December 30, 2010

Vallone wants fluoride out of water

From the Village Voice:

A city councilman from Queens apparently wants your your teeth to rot and fall out. The Daily News says Councilman Peter Vallone is planning to introduce a bill that would end New York's 45-year practice of adding fluoride to its tap water, citing safety concerns and comparing the mineral to prescription anti-depressants.

Via the News:

"This amounts to forced medication by the government," said Councilman Peter Vallone (D-Queens), who plans to introduce fluoride-removal legislation at the next Council meeting, "What's next? They decide we're depressed and add Prozac to our drinking water?"


Of course, scientists and government agencies (including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) have long held that water fluoridation is a coup for public health since it drastically helps to reduce tooth decay.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why wasn't this in the article?

"Sodium fluoride is a toxic by-product of the aluminium industry. It inhibits proper function of the thyroid gland as well as enzyme systems, and damages the immune system. It is also responsible for an increase in tooth decay. The most comprehensive US review, carried out by the National Institute of Dental Research, found that nine fluoridated cities had 10 per cent more decay than nine equivalent non-fluoridated cities. As a result of research in Europe, sodium fluoride treatment of water is now illegal in Sweden, Denmark, Holland and, most recently, Switzerland."

The article did mention that NYC spends about $7 million annually. Consider all the other cities, towns, villages, etc. that are using tax momey to add this to the water and what do you get? Someone is getting PAID big time. You don't know who we are and we are getting lots of your money. We know it's poison but Fuck You, Pay Me suckers. Drink up.

Anonymous said...

We should get Vallone out of water, period. What is Astoria thinking when it goes to the polls to vote in this clown?

FlooshingRezident said...

Anon 1 is absolutely right!

There's enormous momentum building throughout the country to get and keep fluoride out of our water. Check out the Fluoride Action Network for more info.

Fluoride is toxic and kills your thyroid gland. It also doesn't work! The boomers grew up with fluoride and we all had cavities.

This is a great move, regardless of the source.

Andrew said...

Fluoridation has been shown to reduce cavities only in children, and only by about 40%.

Anonymous said...

Give it a break above anons. Do you not vax your children either?

If we weren't getting fluoride in our water, than children would have to take fluoride tablets. Under Obamacare, you'll pay for it anyway, so it doesn't' make any sense to not get it in the water.

Vallone is normally the devil (yet you Astorians keep voting for him), but now he's forward thinking crunchy granola genius. Shut up.

My parents have terrible teeth. I'm 43 years old and have never had a cavity, nor have my 6 siblings. None of use have thyroid problems. Thank you fluoridated water!

Deke DaSilva said...

There's still nut jobs out there that are anti-fluoridation?

I thought they were all a bunch of cranks who thought fluoridation was part of some "Communist plot"?

Well, we do have a bunch of nutters who think 9/11 was a conspiracy, and Area 51 is real, so go figure.

Anonymous said...

Time warp. Back to the 50s stop fluoride movement.

Gary the Agnostic said...

That's right! Time to protect our "precious bodily fluids"!!!

Anonymous said...

Vallone is a product of the backward thinking community like Astoria - Ditmars smells like a shithouse and the locals will tell you with a straight face that its the tide or a sewage plant in another boro, and when you litterly wipe their faces in it (Bowery Bay Sewage Facility anyone) they either get angry or look at you dumbly: what you have told them has to be wrong cause Vallone told them differently.

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Anonymous said...

Why don't everyone do their research before spewing out garbage.

I bet you didn't know the ADA tells you that babies shouldn't be ingesting as much tap water / flouride and they have no official stance on effects of fluoride on kidneys because there's NOT ENOUGH RESEARCH and you didn't hear that in the news did you - http://www.ada.org/4383.aspx

Just because agencies, govt, and news says one thing doesn't mean its true. They are all humans and have been known to lie and cover things up. From Nixon to WMD to Vietnam to 9-11.

Who in the right mind would want to ingest fluoride tablets? We already have fluoride in the toothpaste and fluoride rinses. Fluoridating tap water was before we had access to fluoride toothpaste and rinses. It was a system put in place too long in history and has no relevance now except keeping you dumb and poor. It should be taken out.

Research in China has shown too much fluoride diminishes intelligence. SO READ AND LEARN - http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/12/28/2010-12-28_city_pol_wants_remove_fluoride_from_new_yorks_drinking_water_citing_safety_conce.html

Anonymous said...

THIS IS A LINK TO THE NYDAILYNEWS ARTICLE ABOVE

http://tiny.cc/skmyq

THE URL IN THE ABOVE POST IS TOO LONG AND IS CHOPPED OFF

Anonymous said...

9/11 coverups, and Chinese research. Yeah, I'm taking your advice.

Anonymous said...

Hey Vallone,

Clean the graffiti off of my garage door, why don't you?

Anonymous said...

Not a fan of the Vallones,
but he is 100% RIGHT.

Flouride is toxic and should not be in our bodies for any reason whatsoever.

I hope he succeeds.

Anonymous said...

Here's a company promoting purified water with added fluoride. They're recommending that it be used in baby formulas. The problem that I have is that...BABIES DON'T EVEN HAVE TEETH YET!!!

http://www.nurserywater.com/

Anonymous said...

WTF?

http://www.nurserywater.com/baby/usage.php

Anonymous said...

Jackass, babies do have teeth below the gums. They are visible on ultrasound before birth. Additionally, some babies teeth emerge early. My son's first four teeth appeared at 2.5 months. He's now 18 months old and has 14 teeth. I made his formula with tap water, and now he drinks tap water.

Tinfoil hats people, tinfoil hats.

nyscof said...

Fluoridation Ineffective & Harmful, studies show

3,200 professionals (including 290 dentists) urge the US Congress to stop water fluoridation citing scientific evidence that fluoridation, long promoted to fight tooth decay, is ineffective and has serious health risks. See statement: http://www.fluorideaction.org/statement.august.2007.html

11 EPA employee unions representing over 7000 environmental and public health professionals called for a moratorium on fluoridation across the country.

The CDC advises that infant formula NOT be mixed with NYC's fluoridated tap water. Why isn't this on NYC's water bills to inform the public?

The CDC also says: “Fluoride works primarily after teeth have erupted…” and that fluoride ingestion does not reduce tooth decay.

nyscof said...

Also

-- The 24th study was published in a US government scientific journal linking low levels of fluoride in the water to children's lower IQ (Environmental Health Perspectives, a publication of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences online December 17, 2010).

-- On April 12, 2010, Time magazine listed fluoride as one of the "Top Ten Common Household Toxins" and described fluoride as both "neurotoxic and potentially tumorigenic if swallowed."

-- Water fluoride chemicals boosts lead absorption in lab animals’ bones, teeth and blood, was reported by Sawan, et al. (Toxicology 2/2010). Earlier studies already show children’s blood-lead-levels are higher in fluoridated communities, reports Sawan’s research team.

-- State University of New York researchers found more premature births in fluoridated than non-fluoridated upstate New York communities, according to a presentation made at the American Public Health Association’s annual meeting on November 9, 2009 in Philadelphia.

-- NYS DoH dentist published national statistics in the July 2009 Journal of the American Dental Association which show similar cavity rates regardless of water fluoride content, However, dental fluorosis rates increased along with water fluoride levels. See analysis “Fluoridation No Benefit; Definite Harm,” by Kathleen M. Thiessen, Ph.D., SENES Oak Ridge, Inc., Center for Risk Analysis here: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/Clinch_2009_No_Benefit_Definite_Harm.pdf

-- The National Kidney Foundation dropped its fluoridation support replacing it with this caution: “Individuals with CKD [Chronic Kidney Disease] should be notified of the potential risk of fluoride exposure.”

nyscof said...

and

-- “A qualitative review of ...studies found a consistent and strong association between the exposure to fluoride and low IQ,” concluded Tang el al., in "Fluoride and Children’s Intelligence: A Meta-analysis” in Biological Trace Element Research

-- Scientific American editors wrote in January 2008, "Some recent studies suggest that over-consumption of fluoride can raise the risks of disorders affecting teeth, bones, the brain and the thyroid gland"

-- A study in the Fall 2008 Journal of Public Health Dentistry reveals that cavity-free teeth have little to do with fluoride intake. Researchers report, "The benefits of fluoride are mostly topical…while fluorosis is clearly more dependent on fluoride intake."

-- Research published in Biological Trace Element Research (April 2009). indicates that blood fluoride levels were significantly higher in patients with osteosarcoma than in control groups. Osteosarcoma, a rare bone cancer, occurs mostly in children and young adults

-- A Tennessee State legislator, Joey Hensley, who is also an MD is urging all Tennessee Water Districts to stop fluoridation

-- Fluoride avoidance reduced anemia in pregnant women, decreased pre-term births and enhanced babies birth-weight, concludes leading fluoride expert, AK Susheela and colleagues, in a study published in Current Science (May 2010). http://www.fluorideandfluorosis.com/Anemia/Current%20Science%20Reprint.pdf


Nobel Prize winner in Medicine, Dr. Arvid Carlsson, says, “Fluoridation is against all principles of modern pharmacology. It's really obsolete.”

Fluoride jeopardizes health - even at low levels deliberately added to public water supplies, according to data presented in a 2006 National Academy of Sciences' (NAS) National Research Council (NRC) report. Fluoride poses risks to the thyroid gland, diabetics, kidney patients, high water drinkers and others and can severely damage children's teeth. At least three panel members advise avoiding fluoridated water.


For more info http://www.FluorideAction.Net

Anonymous said...

Tinfoil hats people, tinfoil hats.

Your personal fashion preference doesn't bode well here, does it? It seems like your the jackass...and moron to boot!!!

Blabs said...

If you want to find evidence supporting the theory that fluoride is bad, you'll find it. If you want to find evidence supporting the theory. I'm in the camp of not taking the side of research based on such small populations, and keeping fluoride in water. The benefits far outweigh the potential hazards.

To the above anon: if your [sic] going to call someone a moron or jackass, please learn to write better.

Anonymous said...

To the above anon: if your [sic] going to call someone a moron or jackass, please learn to write better.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Babs just keeps proving what a moron he/she is. A slight grammatical error sets him/her off and spouts opinions without doing indpendent research. Babs..go back to the rock you crawled out from before you hurt yourself.

Anonymous said...

So the anti flouride people cite sources and research while the pro flouride people name call. Nuff said fucktards, keep paying me to dump this poison in your water supply. Long live the Illuminati, long live the NWO. We can't wait until you pleebs die off our planet.

nyscof said...

Vallone answers NY Daily News' knee-jerk uninformed editorial in a Voicer Letter to the Editor

Vallone: Better safe than sorry

Astoria: Re "Something in the water" (editorial, Dec. 29): There is a growing body of evidence that fluoride does more harm than good. One need only do a modicum of research to find many anti-fluoride studies. Most recently, a study published by the National Institute of Environmental Health linked fluoride in water - at levels below what the EPA considers safe - to lower IQ in children.

While four out of five dentists may be enough to pick a gum, all five should agree before we force-medicate the public.

continued:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/01/01/2011-01-01_voice_of_the_people_for_january_1_2010.html#ixzz19misy29l

Anonymous said...

Maybe you should do a fact-check before you post such poorly backed opinions.

Watch this video, which was released September 6th, 2012 at the city hall in Portland, Oregon. Very recent.

http://world.banoosh.com/en/2012/09/26/an-inconvenient-tooth-fluoride-documentary-movie/