Tuesday, April 7, 2009

Two Council Members confirm Crowley wanted school to pass


Two separate conversations with City Council Members have revealed that Elizabeth Crowley indeed never lobbied her colleagues to vote down the Maspeth high school. One council member stated that a round of calls was made and during these conversations she basically just gave her reasons for voting against the school but did not ask them to vote no with her. Another council member said that she definitely could have defeated the school had she asked others to do so because she certainly would have had the votes. She also did not ask them to vote no on the floor of the council before the vote was cast.

Once again, here is Crowley's speech to the Council prior to the vote:

I believe the HS proposal we’re voting on today still needs work. As a council member it has been difficult accepting and agreeing on the Dept of Education’s policies, but I must thank Speaker Quinn for her continued hard work and support as I have worked through the difficulties associated with this proposal.

And while I do not agree with Deputy Mayor Walcott and the Dept of Education policies moreover their reluctance to give priority zoning to those who live closest to the school I do thank Deputy Mayor Walcott for his and the department’s focus over the past month on the Maspeth HS project.

I’d like to also thank my colleagues in this body, your knowledge and advice has been invaluable and I am grateful for your support.

I am voting No. Let me clear, I want a school in Maspeth, but I cannot agree with this plan.

In an effort to alleviate the traffic and transit concerns raised by community [sic] I asked the Department of Education to compromise on a plan to allow this school to better address the needs and concerns of my community. They did not and as I [sic] result I do not support this plan.

As the plan stands now it does not have the approval of the community education council, it does not have the approval of the community board, it does not have the approval of the local civic association. It does not have the full support of local parents. It does not have the support of the local elected officials.


Interestingly, even the PTA of the local elementary school doesn't want it:

"I know we need more schools, but to have a high school, a junior high school and an elementary school within three blocks would bombard the neighborhood," said Gayle Lupo, a Maspeth resident and PTA president for PS 58.

Liz Crowley sold Maspeth out for benefit of the UFT and now its time for Maspeth to vote her out come November.

(The above photo from her campaign site also shows that she doesn't know the difference between Grand Avenue and Maspeth Avenue.)

159 comments:

Anonymous said...

What a backstabbing little bitch. I hate this woman. I thought she was a breath of fresh air but now I see she stinks just like the rest of the garbage that's represented this district over the past few years.

Anonymous said...

Really disgusting. I hope she gets what's coming to her. Thank you crappy, for exposing this liar and fraud.

Anonymous said...

Hey, maybe if the jackasses at CB5 had voted no instead of yes with stipulations Liz would have gotten the message to push extra hard against the SCA. But then again, when the UFT forces members to run your campaign, I guess your loyalties lie elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

I hope she and her boy toy Lydon get tossed out on their asses come November.

Anonymous said...

I know they're going to come here and write about how the council members don't want to vote against a school during an election year. But come on...how many of them have real competition? And if they are simply backing up a local councilmember who should know what's in the best interest of their district, then why would they think voters would blame them for that?

Anonymous said...

Ridiculous. I live in Maspeth, but if they wanted to build a school in Jamaica and Crowley voted against it in line with Comrie, it's not like I would think she is anti-education. More stupid excuses from Dizzy Lizzy's camp.

Anonymous said...

Elizabeth Crowley is unfit for office, plain and simple. She is an embarrassment.

She must go.

Anonymous said...

And here I was all ready to blame Quinn. Give us a fucking break, Liz!

Anonymous said...

One word: Shameful.

Anonymous said...

Well, why not Liz? We're waiting for your explanation.

Anonymous said...

Crowley is a liar. Work night and day and vote her out!

Taxpayer said...

Anonymous said:
"Well, why not Liz? We're waiting for your explanation."

During my campaign, I'll demand over and over that she give all of us the true story.

Then, I'll demonstrate over and over what the real story is.

I'll leave it up to the sensible voters.

linda said...

was at a meeting last night and she never once brought up the school. liz is hoping that this just goes away, well guess what it won't. she is useless and really doesn't care for maspeth and she can try repeatly to say i grew up in maspeth, but to me it's all blah blah blah, we need to still fight! lets not allow this school to go up and we need her to get the hell out. if there is a slim chance of hope to stop this school from going up we need all of maspeth to protest. i didn't grow up in maspeth, but my children did and i want to preserve the quailty of life we have left.

Anonymous said...

I'll leave it up to the sensible voters.


GOOD LUCK. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 80% OF PEOPLE IN QUEENS?

Anonymous said...

Well, you asked for her in November over "Phony Tony." You couldn't wait to vote him out. Now you're living with the consequences. And I'm sure when you vote out Crowley in November, you'll turn on the sorry person who succeeds her in short order. Because let's face it, you hate every politician who doesn't do everything you want or believe in.

Anonymous said...

The thing I find most unsettling is not some third stringer's antics. You can find that just about anywhere the clubhouse has placed one of their seat warmers.

The thing I find most unsettling is the way NY1 rewrote the news to protect her.

Censorship and political propoganda should be exposed and attacked anywhere it is found.

Anonymous said...

Because let's face it, you hate every politician who doesn't do everything you want or believe in.
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Wow, you clubhouse hacks think the rest of us slept during civics.

This is what American government is about.

Asshole.

Anonymous said...

Because let's face it, you hate every politician who doesn't do everything you want or believe in.


YES, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

YOU SHOULD WANT WHAT EVER A CAMPAIGN DONOR WANTS.

YOU SHOULD WANT WHATS SOMEONE WHO IS ENJOYING HONEST GRAFT WITH YOUR TAXES WANTS.

YOU SHOULD WANT WHAT SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO EMPLOY THEIR RELATIVE WANTS.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

Anonymous said...

Because let's face it, you hate every politician who doesn't do everything you want or believe in.


or at least remain quiet and passive like they are in immigrant communities.

Anonymous said...

Phony Tony Como was working on the school to be put there behind everyone's back as well. There are very few votes that affect my community directly. When the person with a vote on a local project intentionally fucks us, then yes, they will be attacked. As it should be.

Anonymous said...

Another slut sitting in the lap of developers!

Now that the School Construction Authority
has completed their foreplay with "dizzy" Lizzy they'll be moving ahead.

But it's the community that'll wind up getting f----d!

Linda said...

We voted her in...

Yes we did and she lied her ass off to the community, saying she cares about our town. Well as they say you learn from your mistakes, and she'll be out soon enough. We need to find someone who is honest and not afraid to speak out to the city council and stand up for the community. Learning a lot by attending these meetings and if you care about your community you also would attend, then just posting remarks (well you voted her in). If there is any possible chance of still protesting against this site, everyone should come out a rally with us, instead of sitting there doing nothing and posting remarks. The few that did go up to city council meeting are the ones that care and we need more to come out. I was amazed by how many were from Middle Village, they care about Maspeth and I say THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

FYI: Elizabeth Crowley is not from Maspeth, she is from Elmhurst. She grew up on a hill next to the LIE behind Walter Crowley Park. Her mother sold the house to a group home which produced this upstanding citizen.

Anonymous said...

83-34 58th Avenue was her address. It was Elmhurst but now is part of Middle Village. She has a lot of nerve claiming to have grown up in Maspeth and therefore caring about Maspeth.

Anonymous said...

She votes no, gives a speech to the council that she is against it, and you attack her for supporting the school? I think she is a lightweight with no skills and no business being in the Council, but you all take the cake for hypocrisy.

Anonymous said...

"She votes no, gives a speech to the council that she is against it, and you attack her for supporting the school?"

No asshole, we are attacking her for not pushing her colleagues to vote no with her. It's no good if you are the only one saying no. A deal was made. This "lightweight" shit is an act.

Queens Crapper said...

Not fighting something vigorously is the same as voting yes.

Anonymous said...

According to the Times she hid from a reporter with Brian the pay to play Mclaughlin in an office 2 years ago... Which one of your dummies that voted for her are suprised that she sold out the community?

Miss Me? said...

Hope she didn't take more than a 6 month lease on that office. Now that she has an office - nobody wants to see her...What a two faced
phony. "we'll be back"

Linda said...

Lmao, it's so true when she got up to talk I was texting a friend, then i went outside to have a smoke. When i came back inside she was finishing up and then sat next to Ms Sears and talked while others had the floor, which i thought was so rude from OUR council people, it just reminded me about the hearing in the city, some really don't pay attention when others are speaking.

Anonymous said...

Give me a break. Its a school not a prison. If you buy a house on a major avenue in the biggest city in the country your gonna have schools, & traffic. Your nuts if you thought otherwise. Yes. It s/b for our kids first in MV, Maspeth And Glendale. But its not its for them & the district so deal. Its gonna be 2 small themed schools & Im sure the vast majority of kids going there will be good kids. I love how a bunch of old nasty people who's kids are already grown up want to dictate to the whole community what is best. Do us all a favor & move to Florida & get out.

Anonymous said...

Crowley is clueless and has no idea of what the taxpayers in this town want. That is why she will become history come election day. Let's get rid of Joe too. Another useless politician.

Anonymous said...

We need schools. Let's build them wherever we can!!!!

Anonymous said...

Some people should choose their words carefully on this blog. Their statements are a little overboard. Also who are these council members, have the balls and stand up and reveal yourself, if not then I have to believe that this is all BS.

Linda said...

First of all i'm not some old senior and i have a lot to say what i want in my community, and so does a lot of young people who pay school tax on their properties. It's sounds like you don't own a house in the area and apparently you don't understand why we don't want it. We do believe there is a great need for a school but it's the location and the impact it will cause to all of us in the community. Being so close to P.S. 58 and I.S. 73 this has to be the most outrageous thing our city council has done. Don't come on line under anonymous and insult the seniors in Maspeth and Middle Village, they are the ones that keep the communities alive and I cannot take you damn non-resident insulting them. Build the school accessible to trains and buses and stop dumping dist. 24 problems over here in Maspeth. SCA was informed of alternative sites they should of followed through on. So for the community and the seniors kiss my ass.

Anonymous said...

Phony Tony Como was working on the school to be put there behind everyone's back as well. There are very few votes that affect my community directly. When the person with a vote on a local project intentionally fucks us, then yes, they will be attacked. As it should be.

Anonymous said...

"we'll be back"---

Who do you mean?

Anonymous said...

Enough with the nonsense about affecting communities. How does it affect the community when 50 kids are sitting on top of each other in a trailer trying to learn to read? Quit being selfish and thinking only of yourself. This is an overall plus to the community.

Taxpayer said...

Linda Said:
"We need to find someone who is honest and not afraid to speak out to the city council and stand up for the community."

I will have only one "special interest": the citizen, resident taxpayers who live in Council District 30.

I will stand up for the community and will never be afraid to speak out to the city council (I've stood up to a lot worse thugs, some with guns).

It will be up to the electorate to judge if I'm honest.

One more thing. This campaign will not trifle in "anti Crowley" stuff. It will be pro taxpayer, pro parent, pro citizen, pro community. Pro, pro, pro. And, if we're all real lucky, professional.

If I do win, you can keep me honest. In that case, we all win!

Taxpayer said...

Anonymous said:
"Enough with the nonsense about affecting communities. How does it affect the community when 50 kids are sitting on top of each other in a trailer trying to learn to read? Quit being selfish and thinking only of yourself. This is an overall plus to the community."

How does it help a community when 1100 or more students are microwaved all day every school day from the legal cell towers across the street from the proposed school?

How?

Anonymous said...

"If you buy a house on a major avenue in the biggest city in the country your gonna have schools, & traffic."

Since when is 74th Street a major avenue? Are you on drugs? Or just talking out your ass?

Anonymous said...

57th ave & grand ave idiot.

Anonymous said...

unless you mean the people who live in the huge storage place across the street.

Anonymous said...

57th Avenue is also not a major street. One lane in each direction, at least when the teachers from PS58 aren't double parking. Then it's just one lane, period.

Anonymous said...

"But its not its for them & the district so deal."

It's not for them at all if

1) it's a theme they are not interested in

2) they have to compete against the rest of the district for seats.

And to the ignoramus who seems to know nothing about the layout of Maspeth - 74th Street extends past the LIE and there are many homes along it. In fact, because of the LIE, it's the only way to get to the southern part of town without detouring to either 69th Street or 80th Street.

Anonymous said...

Wow Crowley's people now trying to put a good spin on the school.

Sorry, chickie, it's not gonna work.

Anonymous said...

how many x do I have to say it I was talking about Grand ave & 57th ave. And 74th st where the school will be facing is a wharehouse. Then there is the LIE & houses. What do you want a 20 block buffer zone for schools. That little area by 74th st 57th ave & grand ave has always been both commercial & residential. If it is an issue you shouldn't have bought a house there.

LInda said...

Well, well who is this smart ass trying to insult our community, could it be Marge? the one that called us a bunch of racist. Your also the one that opposed the site for a h.s on the old steven's site, oh we don't want our children on the blvd. of death, please. Stay the hell out of our town and if someone bought a house near the site it's non of your business and they have a right to complain, we have enough problems with all the teachers from the other two schools blocking the roads and driveways.

Linda said...

Hey taxpayer, i really wish you would come out or at least try to reach out to me. If your truly sincere with what your saying I would like to meet with you and talk. I am serious about getting rid of crowley and all of her plans in screwing up Maspeth, Middle Village and Glendale.

Anonymous said...

We needs schools. Sorry you won't be able to park your 3 SUVs in front of your house as you are acustomed to, but my kid is going to school in a trailer. Parking takes a back seat to education. we need new schools all over this city.

Anonymous said...

Whoever the asshole is that is coming here and saying "tough shit you deserve a school" obviously doesn't understand the point of the post. There would be no further discussion of a school if Crowley had just done what she was elected to do and rally other council members to vote in the best interests of her district when it is an issue that directly affects us. Having her make hollow speeches does us no good if she can't deliver.

Anonymous said...

"Sorry you won't be able to park your 3 SUVs in front of your house as you are acustomed to"

I don't own a car and take public transportation. The Q58 is already overburdened due to the presence of 2 other large schools within 3 blocks. We don't need 1000 more kids using it.

Anonymous said...

"but my kid is going to school in a trailer"

And a themed school won't help change that.

Anonymous said...

And why do you think your kids are going to school in a trailer? Because of rampant overdevelopment and unchecked immigration. Building more schools is just a bandaid for those problems.

italian girl said...

Wow, Linda! You sound like a real go-getter. I really hope you can help kick Crowley to the curb this November.

Anonymous said...

Let's see...build schools, lay off teachers. Sounds like a great plan!

Anonymous said...

Sorry someone has to sit next to you on the bus instead of you getting your own row, but we need schools.

Anonymous said...

Another comment by an ignoramus. I have to allow 2 or 3 buses to go by before I can board.

Anonymous said...

Prepare for 5-6 after the school is built.

Anonymous said...

Most of the community wants a school.

Anonymous said...

According to Crowley, they don't.

Queens Crapper said...

Here's more bullshit from the council and UFT

Anonymous said...

Ok, let's lobby for more buses then instead of for less schools. That seem reasonable.

Anonymous said...

Two different agencies. And the MTA is cutting service, not enhancing it.

Anonymous said...

"let's lobby for more buses then instead of for less schools."

Who is lobbying for LESS schools? Do you not understand that the location is the issue and not the fact that a school is to be built? Other more transit-friendly locations were suggested. Why weren't they explored? It does a disservice to both the community and the students to put it in a location that is not well-served by transit.

Anonymous said...

Crapper you're funny. All you do is bitch and whine and you never manage to actually mobilize anybody or stop anything. You're just as useless as the electeds you pan on this crappy excuse for a blog.

Queens Crapper said...

Perhaps you're right. But I don't get paid to do this. The electeds do. So you need to refocus your anger elsewhere.

Linda said...

Thanks italian girl!
SO sick of Liz crowley and UFT posting comments on this site. Tp the one that posted "we needs schools", hmm.. public school education? and if your child is in a trailer, possibly you should be moving out of the trailer park. The problem is the location and accessible to transit and our community and surrounding communities don't want the school here. So if you live in Corona and need more schools maybe you should be demanding your council person to build the school in the empty lot near the shopping center off Queens Blvd. To the comment rally for more buses, well MTA already gave IS 73 the extra buses and the MTA is cutting back service, so again build the school where it's needed the most. We are not going away and scare that easy.

Anonymous said...

Oh please, I saw the post a while ago with supposed alternative locations. They have their negatives as well, and you all would be whining and screaming about any of those if you thought they were too close to your house.

Anonymous said...

The point is that they would be in sites that have adequate transportation and would have minimal impact on surrounding residential communities and neighborhood mom-and-pop shopping areas.

Anonymous said...

Would ANYONE welcome a NYC public high school next door or around the corner from them? It's common knowledge that they bring crime to the area. I saw a drug bust outside Grover Cleveland today around 5pm. Plainclothes officers pulled an adult right out of his car and arrested him for selling to the kids.

italian girl said...
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italian girl said...

Linda:

To be honest I am strong believer in the UFT or at least I used to be. They have such little authority(thanks to Randi Weingarten), how could they have influenced any decision to build there in Maspeth?
This is what I want to know: why don't they build a high school in College Point? There's tons of land across from the Target mall and public transportation. And College Point has become such a transient area, I doubt there would be anyone complaining about a high school. We've got some serious overcrowding issues in the high schools here. College Point would be a good choice.

linda said...

You know i don't have the answer you seek. I don't understand why DIST.24 has the city by the balls all the time for more schools,especially when the city admits it's a problem through out the entire Tri-State. The SCA has been given alternative sites, which would be a better choice for the children traveling. Mr. Lui had complained to the SCA at the council meeting, that he had contacted them for a H.S. in Flushing off College Point, near the Home Depot. All I can say is call Mr. Lui and your school DIST. and have them answer those questions. Sorry now that our Mayor changed the H.S. open to anyone there are no more local H.S. and they build where ever they want. The most upsetting is the the power of domain and the city is abusing that more often then in the past. I still believe someone should be looking into the Mayor and his staff and get to the bottom of this. No one should have their properties taken away from them, especially if they pay their taxes in a timely fashion.

Queens Crapper said...

Well, I.G., it's not so much that the UFT was influential in choosing the site, it's that after the site was announced by SCA, UFT had Crowley by the balls, so to speak, because they donated volunteers to her last 2 campaigns and this upcoming one is the big one. So she is more beholden to them than anyone who actually lives in the district.

italian girl said...

But didn't Crowley realize that the people of Maspeth would be out for blood if she didn't really fight this high school? In the end it's not the UFT she has to face, it's her constituents.

Queens Crapper said...

Of course, that's why she put up a front and said she was against the school when she was really for it. If you are really against something, you will fight hard to kill it. All she had to do was ask her colleagues to back her up. She didn't even do that.

Anonymous said...

why so serious crappy? Did you get the story right this time?

Anonymous said...

Crappy will just delete you posts anyway. Censorship!!! Crappy will "allow" the posts she wants.

I thought this blog was fair. Not true.

Anonymous said...

I wonder who the two council members are? Let me guess Avella is one right?

Name your "sources" crappy!

Anonymous said...

Yea I know...why soo serious crappy!! great line...

Anonymous said...

LOL....Why sooo serious crappy?

Queens Crapper said...

So you are posting comments at a rapid fire pace tonight. Why so serious? Because it's going to mess up my neighborhood. Sad that neither you nor Liz seem to understand this.

Anonymous said...

If everyone here is anonymous, then why should the council members be brought out into the open? Sadly, every council member will have the same story because Liz didn't even try to gain their support. In fact it was her supporters who came here saying that you can't get a council person to vote against a school during an election year. But 10 of them did, so there goes that theory.

Anonymous said...

your just going to delete the postings anyway Crappy!!


Why soo serious Crappy!

Anonymous said...

Isn't it sad that this bitch fucked with both ends of Maspeth? First with St. Savior and now with this high school. She needs to be roasted on a spit.

Anonymous said...

Her ditzy sisters should stay away from computers...

linda said...

Everything will come out in the open soon enough and then Liz will have to explain herself to everyone. Her cousin Joe won't be able to help her, because he'll have to worry about his own job. The Crowley's don't own this town and as easily as your voted in you can be taken out. TAXPAYER where are you, still want to talk with you.....

Anonymous said...

A history lesson would reveal that the proposal of the school did not just pop out of thin air.

Maspeth got fucked when pinky fucked grandma.

Pinky wanted it. Phony big house no-neck como wanted it.

The only elected official in recent district 30 political history that did not want the school is Crowley. She is on the record saying NO.

Lets no forget the community board, which the majoroity of Juniper civic sits on. What about their leadership? All of those people know about the school way before Crowley took office. To top it off, they voted Yes.

When you comment, can you please take everything into account?

Anonymous said...

Look, taxpayer had the job already...we need new blood.

Anonymous said...

The "majority of Juniper Civic" does not sit on CB5 and none of them voted yes so you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. And if you believe Crowley, the entire board voted no because their stipulations for voting yes were never realized.

And Liz was the person in office when the vote went through, so she is the one to blame.

Anonymous said...

The community board is advisory. The council vote is binding. Nice try, Liz.

Anonymous said...

And Liz was the person in office when the vote went through, so she is the one to blame.
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Bad logic. The proposal for the this was first placed on Pinky's desk. He screwed it up. Then Phony Tony Como screwed it up.

Sometimes, the mess is to big to clean up. As a resident of MV and someone who voted for change, that is what happened here.

Anonymous said...

The community board is advisory. The council vote is binding. Nice try, Liz.
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So then board you sit on means nothing? Then why bother?

Anonymous said...

When you go in with lame brained ideas about changing enrollment practices as your reason for voting no instead of valid reasons like traffic, transit, emergency vehicle access, lack of parking, etc. then you are setting yourself up for failure. I don't think Lizzy is as Dizzy as we make her out to be. She knew EXACTLY what to do to try to escape blame while getting the school passed.

Anonymous said...

I don't sit on a board. The community board is and always has been advisory. It's supposed to be taken seriously, but many times it isn't. Even Liz didn't give a shit about the recommendations made by the board and pushed for her own plan. Maybe you should ask her why their concerns were ignored.

linda said...

well it will all come out soon enough.......

Anonymous said...

well it will all come out soon enough.......
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Look, taxpayer had the job already...we need new blood.

Queens Crapper said...

Taxpayer has never held elected office.

Anonymous said...

That will come out too

Anonymous said...

lmao, liz you really need to stop your making an ass of yourself.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone answer regarding the history of the proposed maspeth school????

Anonymous said...

Notice that Juniper Valley Civic changed many of the stories on their site.

Anonymous said...

Dont bother...she will just delete your posting anyway.

Anonymous said...

Answer what? The site was proposed by someone at PS58 to be their 7th and 8th grade. Why? I have no idea. Then the SCA looked at it and decided it should be a high school. Instead of fighting the school, Liz decided she would rather say she wants the school but only if kids from certain schools get first dibs. As it is a themed school, this will never happen because it CAN'T happen. She is so dumb she didn't understand this and pushed for something no other council district gets. While she was off in la-la land, SCA said, well, we'll allow it to be district zoned. I don't think it was a coincidence that the council members took turns stating "how hard Liz fought" and what "great concessions she won." Give us all a break. She could have at least fought for a smaller school. Instead she decided 1100 students in the middle of a low density neighborhood overburdening the transit system was a great thing.

Anonymous said...

There is no such thing as Juniper Valley Civic. Liz doesn't even know the name of the biggest civic association in her district.

Anonymous said...

The school was proposed several years ago.

Anonymous said...

"Notice that Juniper Valley Civic changed many of the stories on their site."

Notice that Crowley changed her own story multiple times. It started out as an enrollment issue then she started citing the traffic issues in the EIS (that no one saw) and finally she stated that none of the local groups supported it.

Also, her supporters started out stating that she couldn't get council members to vote against a school, now they are stating that it was all Gallagher's fault.

Anonymous said...

It is his fault!

Queens Crapper said...

I didn't realize Gallagher still had so much pull with the Council!

Linda said...

The ex president of PS 58 went to the SCA trying to have the seats changed from k-6 to k-8 and thought the site would be good as an annex, for P.S. 58. Don't know which council person she spoke with on this topic, or it could be all of them. So in the end SCA came in decided to put a high school instead annex and we got fucked in Maspeth. That's when Dizzy Lizzy thought she would try real hard to fight for a local school, but in reality it won't be, so the parents who she promised got fucked too. If you still think your child is going there it's a real shame that you don't understand it's open to anyone, and that means with the best grades....

Anonymous said...

Pinky screwed up district 30 royally. his screw up is costing us big time now.

Anonymous said...

Yes with the lie that this school will take some of the overpopulation away from Cleveland and Newtown, which are not themed schools. What a crock. They will still be overcrowded and this one will be, too.

Anonymous said...

CA did propose the school to him first, Crappy.

Anonymous said...

SCA

Queens Crapper said...

This sounds like when a new administration blames all the bad things on the previous administration to cover up for the fact that they screwed up.

Anonymous said...

The issue was no school at any cost because of the oversaturation of schools with two other schools in close proximity, inadequate transportation, 4,000 kids on the residential streets at arrival and dismissal and the prowling school buses on the streets.

Forget her "good intentions" of having kids walk to school. That's from Oz and that's where Elizabeth belongs. She doesn't "get it!" She's history!

Anonymous said...

NO, it is a resident of MV upset at the powers that be, which are not in the government and think they are crappy.

I have been puting up with this all my life. I am tired of it.

Anonymous said...

Who are the powers that be?

Linda said...

Wait Maspeth! Liz has in her head to make IS 73 and PS 58 both k-8. She asked how I felt on this in front of my son at a meeting. I responded, our local children couldn't fill one, so who would be filling the second? guess what that means more children from dist.24 would be bused in. So more, more and more we get screwed and a high school too, thanks so much LIZ. She needs to be taken out of DIST.30.

Anonymous said...

I have been living in MV all my life, we all know. I dont want to school for the record.

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding? She wants both schools to be K-8? She'll suggest that, ask for local zoning, and they'll say no to the zoning but yes to the K-8 and we'll get screwed by her stupidity again.

Anonymous said...

You don't see them using eminent domain to take part of the Hemmerdinger property in Glendale to make a school, now do you? Nope, just fuck with the little not-politically-connected-guy instead.

Linda said...

She threw it out "what do you think?", so that tells me she's working on it. I don't trust anything that comes out of her mouth. Oh and she cannot lie about it because my son was sitting there and heard it all. SO please Liz don't deney it, my child is old enough to understand. She spoke with him and told him how she also went to Saint Adalberts, which i find amazing considering her mom was on the board for public schools.

Anonymous said...

i agree with that

Anonymous said...

lets make phony tony como's house a school. problem solved.

Anonymous said...

linda get laid will u

linda said...

anonymous fuck you and don't worry about my private life. I'm sure enough people that know me will now back me up. U are the one that needs to get laid or is it that you don't have a man/women that wants your sorry ass.

Anonymous said...

Liz can give anyone lessons in that area.

Anonymous said...

lmao, just ask her ex husband.....
i was amazed how much you learn about a person when the real dirt comes out. BJ anyone!!!

Anonymous said...

Who is Liz's husband and where is he? Does he have a name? Is he in the picture? Who takes care of her sons while she is out "working?" What schools do they go to? Probably private schools.

Anonymous said...

She's done..................but i'd hit it!

Anonymous said...

You don't see them using eminent domain to take part of the Hemmerdinger property in Glendale to make a school, now do you? Nope, just fuck with the little not-politically-connected-guy instead.

The commenter above has it just right - E. Crowley dad - Walter was as old school Pol as they came - they did everything to advance their Dem club status -

Elizabeth learned well and is now the classic back room let make a deal that will make me and my friend very rich. Look at cousin Joe Crowley who work along side of dear old Uncle Walt - absorbed eveything he needed to know to wheel and deal his way into Congress - he did well, no?

What you have here are 2 entrenched Pols that you will never be able to defeat or get rid of for the next 25 years!!! Nothing matters to them except their own well being.

Anonymous said...

First correct me if I'm wrong but I was told Walter was appointed by in the day, because we didn't vote back then. Then the man died of a heart attack only being in office less than a year, which then his wife took office for two months. So hello how much could he had done. Crowley's are nothing to this town but a bunch of sell outs, so don't feel threaten or impressed by them.

Anonymous said...

I see Crapper didn't post an item about how the UFT gave council members cue cards with negative questions about charter schools at a recent hearing. I guess he conveniently didn't see that story either. The UFT is a disgrace, as usual, and its attacks on charter schools are shameful.

Anonymous said...

Have a question??? why doesn't the UFT speak up and complain that the city may have to lay off 2000 teachers. Instead of fighting to build build build which they think creates more jobs but what happens to those laid off they don't care? It's sicking that people are not working and the city keeps spending, giving themselves raises, while the unempolyment line is rising. STOP SPENDING!

Queens Crapper said...

"I see Crapper didn't post an item about how the UFT gave council members cue cards with negative questions about charter schools at a recent hearing. I guess he conveniently didn't see that story either."

Proof that you're a moron:

I posted it yesterday!

Anonymous said...

You put a link in a comment without referencing what it was about. You didn't post a story about it.

They should lay off the bad teachers. Why should they be immune? The UFT is despicable. They don't care about the children. One of the reasons charter schoolchildren perform so much better is because the schools aren't hindered by UFT work rule restrictions.

Anonymous said...

We need schools!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Anything that comes out of the Queens clubhouse is bound to be a piece of crap.

We're all f----d!

That's what happens with a one party system!

Queens Crapper said...

Hey Anonymous:

Blogger is free. You are welcome to start your own blog if you don't like the viewpoints or selection of stories presented here.

Have a great day.

Anonymous said...

I knew that busy Lizzy had to get her luscious lips from something...
daily practice sucking up to power!

Assume the position Liz....there's some "biggie" who needs some lip service waiting down the hall.

Taxpayer said...

Linda said:
"Hey taxpayer, i really wish you would come out or at least try to reach out to me. If your truly sincere with what your saying I would like to meet with you and talk. I am serious about getting rid of crowley and all of her plans in screwing up Maspeth, Middle Village and Glendale."

Linda, stay calm. I'm on the case. If I can stop this school, I will. If I can diminish the UFT, I will. Actually, they've diminished themselves (see the cue card scandal) as have the council members who attached themselves to the UFT.

The council members who chose to use (or even put their hands on) these cue cards need to understand the insult that the UFT intended to hurl at the council members. This is the same UFT that proclaims to believe in worrying about "self esteem". The UFT apparently doesn't care much for what it says about the council members who need to be handed the questions to ask. It tells me that the UFT doesn't really trust the people it purchases.

As for my previous elected office ...

Anonymous said...

Crapper, you're pretty defensive when one points out your biases. I know you have given up trying to have any credibility.

Thanks, have a great day yourself.

What is wrong with a school going K-8? Weird . . .

LINDA said...

LMAO, YOU GO TAXPAYER, WHO EVER YOU ARE....
WANT TO WORK FOR YOU, LMAO...

Queens Crapper said...

"Crapper, you're pretty defensive when one points out your biases."

You think I'm biased in favor of the teacher's union? Give me a break. You obviously haven't been reading very carefully.

"What is wrong with a school going K-8?"

The kids are already bused into the community causing traffic and transit problems. They also trash the place after school because they don't live in the community. We can't fill one of our schools with local kids, why would we want two?

Queens Crapper said...

Hey Linda, check this out. I took it from today's stats.

Anonymous said...

As for my previous elected office ...

which is?

Eileen said...

Clueless in Glendale. That's Liz.
Jumping Joe Crowley at least laid low so no one sees that he is doing nothing. Liz, thinks we're all stupid. She votes what she wants. Maybe she thinks this school will be named after her.Why
was another school named after her father? Time for Joe to stop defending Liz and pulling newspaper articles.This trick covered up your goofs Joe, but only makes Liz look worse. The dysfunctional Kennedys, thats what the Crowleys are. Lobotomys for all.

Anonymous said...

The Crowleys think they are royalty, like the Kennedy's . The only thing these 2 families have in common is that they have too many children. As for power, they have none and as far as name, Crowley is associated with deception. Time to vote all of them out. They don't represent their constituents and therefore, we need to correct that. Time for everyone to get together and come up with someone who will represent our wishes and values. TAXPAYER... when you are ready, give us a sign or a place where we can all meet and get the wheels in motion to support you in your run for City Council. I will personally pull out all the stops and get everyone I know behind you. Let's all meet in a local place in Maspeth. If we have to wear a color or do something to identify that we are Pro Maspeth, let us know. We are here for you taxpayer...in spirit, in person and monetarily. Let us help you. Let's all band together now take this town back from the greedy developers and politicians. Let's turn the clock back and make Maspeth the town that it once was. We are waiting for you. Give us a sign.

LINDA said...

lmao, i agree with you but first we have to be careful we don't want lizzy's crew showing up with the same color. someone out there has to know who's taxpayer and we need to start getting together, you need to announce yourself and put your name on the ballot, if you want to run against her. i know i would support you, shit i want to work for you.... time for change thru out the entire city. PRO UNION!!

italian girl said...

LINDA - you rock!

linda said...

hey crew that hates liz crowley! go to: http://forumnewsgroup.blogspot.com/2009/04/crowley-not-enough-support-to-block.html

you'll really appreciate this one. she thought we hated her well now the city will... watch out liz Mr. Barron will be coming for you...

linda said...

Council Approves DOE's Plan for Maspeth High School

By Conor Greene

In the end, Councilwoman Elizabeth Crowley was unable to get the backing of enough of her colleagues to reject the city’s plan to build a 1,100 seat high school in Maspeth.

Crowley (D-Middle Village) maintains that by the time she took office, it was too late to convince the city Department of Education that the former Restaurant Depot property at 57th Avenue and 74th Street isn’t a good location for the school. She also said that despite her efforts, she was unable to get enough fellow council members to vote against it.

City Council voted 38-10 last Thursday to approve the DOE's plan for the school, which will include two seperate 500-seat high schools and 100 special education seats. The project is expected to cost about $80 million.

“By opposing the site from day one, the end result would have worked against the community more than this end result does,” she said in an interview Tuesday in her Dry Harbor Road office. “If I opposed this one hundred percent, it would have likely been a citywide school with 1,650 students” as the DOE originally proposed. “At the end of the day, I knew I didn’t have the votes,” she said.

According to Crowley, the project was being pushed by the Bloomberg administration and had the backing of City Council Speaker Christine Quinn. In addition, Crowley said she was unable to gain support from the Council’s Minority Caucus. That group, which has 25 members, felt like Crowley was “getting a sweetheart deal” since the city agree to give priority zoning to students in District 24 and reduce the size of the school.

“I built reasonable expectations so that the DOE could meet the community at least halfway,” said Crowley. “At the end of the day, we did get more than any councilmember has ever gotten in terms of priority zoning… I knew I didn’t have the votes because the Minority Caucus wasn’t with me.”

Many residents testified at hearings over the past year that the site is not appropriate for a school due to the proximity of two existing schools within three blocks. Responding to criticism that she should have opposed a school at the site instead of pushing for it to be zoned for local children, Crowley said the process was too far along by the time she took office to block it.

In the end, the city agreed to give priority to students in District 24, which stretches from Long Island City to Corona and south to Ridgewood, but refused to set aside seats for students in Maspeth. According to Crowley, a student living directly across from the school has just a one-in-twenty chance of being enrolled there under the city’s current plan. “It’s the mayor’s fault the DOE spent a year and a half on this,” said Crowley.

The problem, according to Crowley, was that two-thirds of the council would be needed to quash the project for good. She refuted claims made in an NY1 story that she didn’t explicitly ask her colleagues to vote no. She said she contacted every member of the subcommittee and Land Use Committee and asked the full Council three times to vote no during her speech on the chambers floor.

Ultimately, Crowley says the project was essentially a done deal by the time she took office and said the process had begun during former Councilman Dennis Gallagher’s term. By the time she was elected, the mayor was pushing the plan, making it tough for a “brand new councilmember” to go “against the administration,” which had already committed two years to the project.

“I felt like the mayor and his administration were pushing this onto our community for political reasons,” said Crowley. “He tends to like things done his way and not necessarily in the most democratic way.”

Now, with the proposal apparently moving forward, Crowley has shifted her focus to lessening the impact the school will have on the neighborhood as much as possible. “Now we have to make this work for us,” she said. She plans on working with the Department of Transportation to ensure local buses can handle the influx of extra riders, especially since the Restaurant Depot site isn’t served by subway lines.

“If there needs to be service increases [including additional buses], they will have to meet those demands,” she said, adding that she will allocate discretionary funds to mitigate traffic issues and will continue to push for implementation of the Maspeth Truck Bypass Plan, which would reroute trucks away from Grand Avenue.
Posted by The Forum Newsgroup at 12:15 PM Labels: city council, development, DOE, education, elizabeth crowley, grand avenue, maspeth, michael bloomberg
1 comments:
Anonymous said...
omg, so easy to put blame on others when you district community can't stand you anymore. I doubt very much, especially Mr. Barron and the other council board members are going to appreciate this one. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if she set this up with the mayor and Ms. Quinn, but it's ok MTA won't be giving more buses and the town will get her removed from her seat.

April 9, 2009 5:25 PM

wow could it get any worst for the dumb broad... she really needs to learn to just shut up..

Anonymous said...

Why does Crowley's City Council website state that her current term ends in 2012 if the current term is really up in November 2009? Nice way to accidentally confuse voters.

Anonymous said...

linda, who is the best councilman in recent years?

linda said...

only from what i've experienced, hmm TONY AVELLA.

Anonymous said...

For everyone's info - the NYC Council has never voted in the majority against school construction.

Queens Crapper said...

And for everyone's info, that's because the council member of the districts where they were to be built made sure they were squashed before reaching the council. Not the case here.