Wednesday, September 17, 2014

Perhaps not the city's biggest priority

From Crains:

The head of a New York City real estate data and listing site is set to propose Tuesday at the Massey Knakal Brooklyn Real Estate Summit an aerial gondola system that would run along the Brooklyn waterfront and into Manhattan.

"This would offer an incredible commute," said Daniel Levy, head of CityRealty, of his East River Skyway proposal. "You would get the best view you could imagine and a comfortable environment while avoiding the mayhem of the L train in the morning."

The system would be built in phases: the first running from the Brooklyn Navy Yard to Williamsburg, and then from Williamsburg to the Lower East Side. Subsequent phases would branch out to eventually connect Dumbo to the South Street Seaport, and Greenpoint, Brooklyn, and Long Island City, Queens, to Roosevelt Island. There, the network would meet up with the existing gondola route between Roosevelt Island and Manhattan.

New waterfront developments are on track to bring thousands of additional units to Brooklyn and Queens, and the aerial gondola system would help alleviate congestion on the subway lines, according to Mr. Levy. He estimates each phase would cost between $75 million and $125 million to build.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

The L isn't running at capacity during peak. Off peak you can add more trains too. Might help if Cuomo stopped raiding the MTA to plug his budget gaps.

I don't think the JMZ line is at capacity either. Is it?

Anonymous said...

And if the MTA were to operate it, count on a fare much higher than that of the subway. I believe they would need much much more than the estimated cost to build it.

Anonymous said...

"..system would help alleviate congestion on the subway lines

Typical landlord/developer bullshit.

What would one of those cars hold -15 people? That fits in the far end of one subway car.

It is a nice idea from a sightseeing-tourism standpoint, but taxpayer should not be paying to enhance some developer's property value.

Queens Crapper said...

It's supposed to be privately financed.

Anonymous said...

For construction maybe, though they probably expect free land for the stations, and have they said anything about operating costs?

Anonymous said...

Another piece of garbage created to cater to the liberals.

Anonymous said...

Do you think they could make it so the gondolas could spin around and turn upside down?

If they are going to have an amusement park attraction masquerading as a transportation device the least it can be is interesting.

A Liberal said...

Anon No. 6:

Who says that Liberals want this?

Anonymous said...

And I'm sure they'll be more schools and hospitals built as well?

Anonymous said...

Why not have gondolas from Rockaway to Lower Manhattan? Or from Elmhurst to Midtown? Or perhaps use them for trips within Queens , say between Woodhaven and Howard Beach? All underserved communities.

Anonymous said...

Yes it is the city's top priority - you have to satisfy obligations to the developers and your cousins in the ce-ment industry with waterfront development.

After all, your family is living in places like Virginia, not next to an open sewer on the former toxic industrial site.

Anonymous said...

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/sep/17/truth-property-developers-builders-exploit-planning-cities

This is over the head of most of the community board people, our elected officials, and certainly what passes for media in Queens, but for the more patient and intelligent out there a very good read.

JQ said...

bunch of crybaby whiners.I've been on the L when these gyna-people get on and they only take it a few stops and the commute is like 5 minutes.Apparently,they are starting to get claustrophobic and can't deal with the same shit us peasants have to go through with everyday in the subway.

Who gives a shit if they want to finance it themselves,it's going to cause more headaches with the traffic and delays during the construction of their little fantasy tram.

this proposal is the tipping point of the selfish needs and the willful obliviousness of generation gentrification.they are yearning for a lynching.maybe they should be obliged.

Anonymous said...

In London, the gondola ride was financed by the Emirates, that homophobic anti-Israel absolute monarchy.

Perhaps the sheikhs can throw some money at the East River too.

Anonymous said...

this proposal is the tipping point of the selfish needs and the willful obliviousness of generation gentrification.they are yearning for a lynching.maybe they should be obliged.
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As long as the mafia restaurant owners trash our shopping district with places that are flavor of the month cheese and beer dives and our mafia construction industry keep slapping together cheap dorms for the hipsters, and as long as they pay off the politicians, you are going see the hipster kids that fuel this shit be favored.

No one in particular likes them, but they are the coal that fuels the locomotive of development so OF COURSE they will be catered to.

Anonymous said...

If the developers want it they can pay for the entire project themselves and offer free rides for 50 years.

Fuck them.

Anonymous said...

More gondolas and cable cars! String them all over the city. I'm sure Duhblazio can find a way to pay for them.

Anonymous said...

Remember when the Roosevelt Island cable snapped?

Anonymous said...

"Queens Crapper said...
It's supposed to be privately financed."

But eventually, conveniently after most of the apartments are sold-rented, it will be found to be unsustainable and quietly dumped onto the MTA via a stealth lobbying effort.

It is easy to cancel a ferry or jitney, this huge thing will be another matter.

Jaime Lannister said...

I don't give a flying fuck about the view. Just get me where I'm going and try not to crash on the way.

Anonymous said...

Or even better, link the G to all the Manhattan-bound lines it crosses!