Friday, March 3, 2017

City Council wants shelters absolutely everywhere

Good thing this place is private!
From NY Times:

The mayor’s plan arrives at the precise moment that the City Council has introduced a package of bills known as “fair share” legislation, the goal of which is to shape the city so that both social assets and social responsibilities are distributed according to a sense of geographic equity. Just as poorer neighborhoods should include more good things — parks, libraries — affluent neighborhoods should help shoulder the burden of shelters, waste transfer sites and so on, the logic goes. If the Rikers Island complex were to close, for example, smaller jails would pop up around the city, and they would need to be in Forest Hills, Queens, as much as they would in the South Bronx.

The de Blasio plan calls for shelters to be created in the neighborhoods where homeless people come from, so they can be as near as possible to the schools their children might attend, and to family and friends who could offer support. To whatever extent that might seem to limit disruption, fair share advocates believe such an approach only exacerbates the problems of concentrated poverty.

“If a school has so many homeless and low-income kids, it’s hard for a school to do well,” said Councilman Brad Lander, a Brooklyn Democrat who backs the legislation. “When things are borne fairly, we pay more attention to them doing well. It’s sort of the opposite of Rikers. When something is out of sight, we’re more likely to do it in ways that are problematic.”

Beyond that, building shelters in more affluent communities puts homeless children in proximity, potentially, to better schools. And as fair share legislators point out, the city hasn’t been doing a very good job of keeping homeless children close to their schools when they enter the shelter system. According to a study from the city’s Independent Budget Office, the percentage of homeless families placed in a shelter near their youngest child’s school declined to 53 percent in 2015, from 83 percent in 2011.

If fair share legislation passes, Mr. de Blasio will have to sell neighborhoods hesitant about accepting homeless shelters on the idea that economic integration is a good idea, vital to civic health. Does he have the charm to do this?

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

They treat homeless better than they treat taxpayers in this city. It sucks to live in NYC.

(sarc) said...

These progressive thinkers, are just that, thinkers.

Otherwise they are just lazy and refuse to do the difficult work of making things better.

It is easier to drag everyone down rather than improve and raise everyone up.

If things improve they reduce their chances of reelection, on their platform of entitlements, envy and division.

So we all must partake in their GIANT crap sandwich...

Anonymous said...

He doesn't need charm to get this to pass, he needs sense. People wouldn't oppose homeless shelters (and more homeless people would want to stay in them) if they weren't these crime ridden hell holes. Fix them up, put some (more) police in there and require residents to adhere to some standards. Then you'd get more communities to be OK with shelters in their neighborhoods. Yes, homeless people need a place to live, but people who are paying for their homes should have some rights not to have crime and litter invited to their neighborhoods. If the mayor doesn't fix that, then those who can leave, will leave and all neighborhoods will decline to their 1970s state.

Anonymous said...

This is Communism in disguise.

Gary W said...

Typical lib thinking, they won't be happy till we are all miserable like them.

Anonymous said...

Good Luck in parts of Queens were you turned hotels into warehouses. I for one will not vote for you as I did not previously.
First you said you want the boroughs to get their fair share of this and your administration said the people you were putting in Maspeth had given Maspeth as their last address. Well we all know that was not the case.
So the Pan American hotel in Elmhurst should be used for the neighborhood people. From Elmhurst etc. But we know out of state people live in homeless shelters as we are a right to shelter state. How do you solve that Mr Mayor?
Make other states take their people?
Your outer boroughs are already over crowded with over building in communities. You promise lots of things. How about this creating a system that can help people who are in the brink of losing their home stay in their home. Have these services in their communities.
Also some people blame Trump for the decrease of tourism in NYC did you ever think maybe these people do not want to be in a hotel which also is a homeless shelter?? The only way we really know if it's Trump the country has to see it...Hawaii, California, Florida, Minnesota and so on. Tourism down everywhere.

Anonymous said...

Why should people bust their chops getting educated and working hard so that they can earn a good living and live in a nice neighborhood, only to have to share their hard-won privilege sullied by a homeless shelter stuck in the midst of that neighborhood? You want to deny yourself immediate gratification and show adult discipline so that you can play host to those who didn't in your neighborhood, doing drugs, mumbling to themselves, relieving themselves on the sidewalk, discarding trash, etc.? Possibly assaulting you or your children? The homeless shelters should be placed in the original neighborhoods of the denizens. Strict residency requirements should also be imposed, so that everyone and their brother from all over the country and the world doesn't make a beeline for the Big Apple to take advantage of their generous social services. If Dumblassio had his way, all of NYC would be turned into a giant homeless shelter for his homies. The hell with taxpayers and the hell with anyone having more because they worked for it. Remember, he is a commie before anything else.

Anonymous said...

Hey. let's put one in Trump TOwer

Anonymous said...

The NYTimes opened a comments section for this article. Watch it carefully. Though your initial assumption might be to see an outpouring of bleeding heart sympathy, feedback on recent illegal alien sob story pieces in the Paper of Record have shown a surprising resistance to the narratives it keeps pushing, and a desire to enforce immigration law in order to help the struggling working class. Curious to see how this one turns out.

Anonymous said...

The de Blasio plan calls for shelters to be created in the neighborhoods where homeless people come from

Of all of the disinformation on the homeless issue, this is always the most glaring. People may become homeless and be shuffled several times throughout the city, live on LINC vouchers, or whatever. The administrators can - with a little time - easily manipulate this number. No sample data is more vague and open to question in the issue than where these people "come from". What this quote REALLY means is "where people last claimed residence".

Anonymous said...


Because some people have parents that sold them as prostitutes and thier lives sucks more than you can imagine. We are all human beings that should help each other. People case more about their car then if a child is being abused.

If these children get a chance while they are still children then they can have a better life later and will benefit everyone. Spreading the shelters out evening seems to make the most sense.


> Why should people bust their chops getting educated and working hard so that they can earn a
> good living and live in a nice neighborhood, only to have to share their hard-won privilege > sullied by a homeless shelter stuck in the midst of that neighborhood? Y

Anonymous said...

I am a strong proponent of building the city's biggest homeless shelter across the street from hizzoner's house in Park Slope.

Anonymous said...

SO ACCORDING TO THEIR RATIONALE, A HOMELESS SHELTER CAN BE BUILT ACROSS THE STREET FROM GRACIE MANSION AND CITY HALL.

Anonymous said...

What makes these elected chuckleheads think that someone who bent over backwards to own a home are going to be so welcoming to this forced integration, nee communism.

Heck, even the "open minded" in the chic parts of Brooklyn didn't want their schools, let alone entire neighborhood, accessible: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/brooklyn-hipsters-fight-school-de-segregation-they-arent-racists-they-just-dont-want-to-be-in-a-ghetto/

Anonymous said...

The homeless needs homes, for heaven's sake! Open shelters, you still have homeless people - duh! Shelters are just ways for Agencies (public or private) to bulk up their cash flow and maintain job security for their upper-echelons.

Anonymous said...

So they build 90 new shelters. I quess they will exist into perpetuity because the city has to keep them full all the time. Will it ever come to a point when the city can start shutting them down or will we just keep bringing in stock from all over the country and never shut them? This still doesnt solve the homeless problem and judging from the mayor's plan, there is no intention on solving it ever!

Anonymous said...

Its war room plan to crush the last white middle class holdouts in Queens.
And you can bet these homeless vote democrat for life and will cause problems on a MASSIVE scale. We are talking hordes of the other 51 states worst illegals with kids, booze, drugs, prostitution and mental problems per neighborhood. Higher numbers for Middle Village, Ridgewood and Maspeth (people the mayor dislikes the most)

Anonymous said...

See here is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the agenda of progressives is to turn NYC into ghettostan

JQ LLC said...

Curious where these "shelters" will be located (great shot that isolated village by Forest Hills by the way) and who will build them and what they will look like.

Not far from where Steven "Weasel" Banks , the Bloom to De Faustio's Bialistock, there's a townhouse being gut renovated and re-purposed for another rich asshole instead for families or individuals who need it, that is somewhat owned by Figurehead Trump's former campaign manager and lobbyist bag of dicks Paul Manafort. The building has not seen any activity and has become a blight to the area because Paul doesn't have any money to pay outstanding loans to bank that was designed to help military veterans to maintain homeownership.

http://pardonmeforasking.blogspot.com/2017/02/washington-lobbyist-and-trump-advisor.html

I guess what I am proposing is that when this traitor piece of shit eventually gets indicted, the city can take over this building and house 2 or 3 families who probably got disenfranchised from Brooklyn. Then it's 87 more to go.

But seriously, these sudden proposals by the shitty council are too fucking late. If they would have concentrated on this instead of lobbying and writing legislation giving undeserved and excessive raises for themselves maybe it would have stemmed the rise of homelessness (maybe kept it under 60,000).

Anonymous said...

There will be no more whites living in Queens soon. Recall many left during the white flight of the 70s and 80s. That's when liberals started to dictate their shitty ideas to make NYC more diverse. It continues to this day.

EDnED said...

I'm coming down Crossbay Blvd. as I was coming home from work around 1am and I see a mob of black people with little kids hanging out by the hotel turned shelter. I've noticed more litter on the ground and made me feel real uncomfortable. I have been living in Ozone for a while trying to avoid living around blacks (personal preference) and now there are so many. I love Ozone but its time to move, but where with all these shelter popping up in every neighborhood.

(sarc) said...

So, may I ask, how are the projects working out???

Anonymous said...

Shelters are the new "projects".

Anonymous said...

This just in, nyc will begin govt issued car insurance next year. Per city council all beater car owners in the Bronx will get a Benz as a replacement vehicle should they get their cars totaled.

Anonymous said...

Let the dope from Park Slope set up a homeless shelter in Gracie Mansion.
Stop ramming shit
into quiet residential
nabes.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter.
Once theses snooty Gardens folks step out past the protective pale, reality will hit them!
They will be in "Indian" territory, just like as if they were in a wagon train crossing the Great Plains.
LOL! Life in a bubble!
They'd better all be wealthy enough to afford round the clock jewelry courier type limousine service.