Courtesy of DNA Info, we have Denny's looking for location in Jamaica (as well as Jackson Heights), a Sheraton Hotel planned for downtown, and concerts and other feel-good events scheduled to showcase the vibrant! diverse! neighborhood. Personally, I think that Joe Moretti should lead tours of the area so that daytripping hipsters and tourists can see the real Jamaica.
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Just another target for holdups ... I am sure Denny's will serve ample helpings of security cameras and security guards.
The whole Denny's thing is a little misleading as far as Jamaica. The company has never stated it is even looking at Jamaica. Considering the racism issue with Denny's, I am not sure that it will happen. Denny's certainly is not the type of eatery I would like to see in Jamaica to begin with, that just encourages more of the low class ghetto lifestyle.
By the way, I think I might just open shop for the "Real Jamaica Tour".
But don't get me wrong, I not only want Jamaica cleaned up, but I want to see improvements such as quality retail and food establishments. For you naysayers out there who say Jamaica is dead, there is some big major development happening here in Jamaica, so it will only be a matter of time before it changes, big money makes sure that the community will change. It might not be all over Jamaica, like South Jamaica, but it will eventually happen to the downtown area and the nearby surrounding area. A few more years, you will see it, just like what is happening in Bed-Stuy and some other parts of Brooklyn. Jamaica can no longer afford to stay this way forever. The demographics are already beginning to change. When I first moved here, you saw no white people, but now I am seeing more of them all the time.
Bed-Stuy is still a ghetto, no matter what you may have heard.
What was once Bed-Stuy is now known as Park Slope. Of course, Park Slope is also ghetto, but of a different "flavor" - it's still a distinct area occupied by a distinct socio-economic, minority group.
I don't mean that Bed-Stuy is a "distinct area occupied by a distinct socio-economic, minority group."
I mean it looks like a filthy shithole, just as Jamaica does.
Park Slope was never Bed-Stuy. There is a big geographic difference between the two neighborhoods. Park Slope has always been Park Slope; it's just much trendier now.
Naw. back in the day even the locals once called it Park Slop.
Now look at it.
But as to Jamaica, that town was once a real center for two counties - and it was covered with either good solid housing or charming gingerbread - even the tough areas.
There is no excuse for that place to look like that. The 60s - and even the 80s are long gone in NYC. Its our leadership that failed us by letting it slide and even worse, doing nothing while everywhere else is inching forward.
Do some of you even visit any of these areas or even read entire posts. I have actually been to Bed-Stuy recently (so it is NOT what I heard) and some of the area has improved, not all of it and yes, it is still a rough area, but there is some change going on there in certain sections. Park Slope is not occupied by a distinct socio-economic, minority group, I do not know where the hell you actually were. Yes the area changes as you get closer to Sunset Park, but Park Slope is not ghetto and the majority is not a minority.
Some of you are just so damn negative and bitter and I would be surprised if some of you even leave your area to go somewhere else.
But I am sure I will catch slack for saying this. Some of you are just plan miserable.
I mean I get very critical of my community of Jamaica, but I also attempt to do something to make some change as well. It is all not just a bitch session.
Remember neighborhoods are big and some parts are not always as nice as others, but it does not make the entire area bad. If you go to the historic district of Jamaica (St. Albans), that are is very nice. Still one family homes, nicely taken care of. Because of it being a historic district, you can go in and build a McMansion or change the integrity of that particular neighborhood.
Hell with the attitude some of you have, all of NYC would be like it was in the 70's.
St. Albans is and has always been a separate neighborhood from Jamaica. You can't say parts of Jamaica are improving and point to St. Albans as proof.
Joe its what you have when the people are conditioned to parrot whatever the pols say and are trained to judge the merit of something on if a pol approves it or not.
Keep doing what you are doing and ignore the a-holes. If the pols do that to their little sycophants, and look where they are, you should too.
But they ain't ignoring you! You are driving them nuts!
Anon said: "St. Albans is and has always been a separate neighborhood from Jamaica. You can't say parts of Jamaica are improving and point to St. Albans as proof."
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READ FOLKS. I never said parts of Jamaica are improving. I just said the St. Albans area is nice. St. Albans is not a completely separate neighborhood, it is still part of Jamaica and is in the community board 12 district and part of District 27. Just as Hollis, Laurelton and Springfield Gardens are part of Jamaica as is South Jamaica.
Just because areas are in the same community board or council district doesn't make them all one neighborhood. Part of Ridgewood has the same council member as Williamsburg. And Hunters Point is in the same community board as Woodside. I've never heard people say those weren't separate neighborhoods.
ANON states:
"Just because areas are in the same community board or council district doesn't make them all one neighborhood. Part of Ridgewood has the same council member as Williamsburg. And Hunters Point is in the same community board as Woodside. I've never heard people say those weren't separate neighborhoods."
You never heard people say that about Ridgewood, Hunters Point,etc because they are completely separate areas and communities.
Greater Jamaica encompasses the neighborhoods of Downtown Jamaica, South Jamaica, St. Albans, Springfield Gardens, Laurelton, etc. They are neighborhoods but encompass Greater Jamaica. Are you even from that area? Greater Jamaica is made up of several different neighborhoods. I know where you are coming from, but these neighborhoods fall under the big umbrella of Greater Jamaica and many look at it that way. This whole thing started because you did not read carefully and stated that I said that parts of Jamaica are improving and said I pointed to St. Albans, which if you re-read, I did neither.
There's a greater Ridgewood area and a greater Flushing area and a greater Astoria area. But that just means those areas are in proximity to those towns, not that they are part of them.
Open a Starbucks and beer garden for the hipsters and Jamaica will turn overnight.
I think Joe is correct. A lot of communities come under the umbrella of Greater Jamaica for a lot of reasons, such as post office and political district lines. St. Albans is very nice (probably more than very nice), as are Hollis and Addesleigh Park to name two other neighborhoods).
But to get to what someone else said here, linking Bedford-Stuyvesant and Park Slope is sort of like linking Middle Village and Woodhaven in Queens. You've got a couple of neighborhoods (Prospect Heights, to name one) and Prospect Park and Grand Army Plaza between those two communities.
'Greater This' and 'Greater That' was an eighties expression that has gone out of vogue - outside of Queens, of course....
The tri-state region is still referred to as Greater New York.
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