Tuesday, June 20, 2017

Could a Grenfell situation happen here?


From CBS 2:

The entire 24-hour Grenfell Tower was engulfed in flames in less than an hour, and the fire was the deadliest in Britain in more than a century.

With so many skyscrapers in New York City, could a similar thing happen? And what should people do in the event of such an emergency?

CBS2’s Elise Finch found out.

The cause of the Grenfell Tower fire is still being investigated. But early reports suggest an external building material called cladding may be to blame.

In a recent renovation, insulation sandwiched between two aluminum panels was used on the building’s fa├žade, and it is that material that is believed to have accelerated the blaze.

Similar cladding is used on many New York buildings – including high-rises. So could a similar fire happen in New York?

10 comments:

JQ LLC said...

The Tower People are doomed. All these experts, from the DOB (who looks like he shit his pants leaving the room) to the fire safety are full of shit and spewing denials. The people that perished were told by management to stay put also. Now 75 are dead. The idiot prime minister administered brutal cuts to the fire dept. and laid off thousands of firemen, for the warped rationale that fires weren't happening often enough (in addition to cuts to law enforcement, which has resulted in 3 terrorist attacks in the past 2 weeks)

http://www.thelondoneconomic.com/tle-pick/revealed-privatisation-cuts-planned-uk-fire-brigade/05/06/

When I first saw that building engulfed in flames on the web, I immediately thought that it was one of these fast tracked luxury towers built recently in the gentrified parts of Brooklyn and of course LIC, but Grenfell was a public housing building built 40 years ago for the poor that they gussied up with that "cladding" so it would mesh well with the luxury development and fancy public spaces being built nearby.

That cladding's purpose was to be water resistant (what the building's masonry wasn't enough?), but in a twisted irony, obviously wasn't fire resistant

And the people of this building was well organized and their complaints were totally ignored by officials for years.

This will ruffle some feathers and offend some (well most), but this is gentrification's 911

Anonymous said...

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY !!!

Just walk by any neighborhood in central Queens and you will see normal looking 2-3 family houses with like 50 Direct TV dishes sticking our from the sides. The basements are illegally rented and renovated. You have people coming in and out at all hours of the night. Most of them are illegal immigrants but because we have immigrant leadership; Moya, Peralta, Ferreras-Copeland they simply look the other way. Nothing against the immigrant community but these greedy landlords who don't care about the safety of their fellow neighbors must be stopped and if you are here illegally then you must face the consequences.

Anonymous said...

With all of the shoddily built Flushing crap, who can say. "Towering Inferno" disaster film revisited

Gary W said...

Yes, but the cladding was made of a "sustainable" material!!

May those poor people rest in peace, and may none of us ever have to depend on the Govt for our safety.

Richard Iritano said...

It's not a question of 'IF,' Queens 'SHEEPLE,' but 'WHEN!' Then, the empowered, taxpayer-funded-for-life, cradle-to-grave idiot, Shithead Chuck Schumer' can unveil YET another faux plan of protection (Schumer's plan + anarchy = PLANARCHY), so that he can herd the 'SHEEPLE CITI-OTS' (city + idiots), into a continually false sense of city and state government working for the people, when in fact they are hardly working (if at all)!

And, then the vicious cycle repeats until a new breed of troglodytes jockeys for the remnants of a defined city or state pension system for which every single one of the deprived 'SHEEPLE' will continue to pay for the next generation of dereliction of public duty (and, pensions that were ironically designated for We, The People), and they will pay IN PERPETUITY——and, the public be eternally duped, bilked, scammed and damned!

❝The Earth isn't dying. It's being killed. And, the people who are killing it have names and addresses.❞ —Utah Phillips

❝We hang the petty thieves and elect the great ones to public office.❞ —Aesop

❝Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.❞ —Voltaire

❝It's dangerous to be right when government is wrong.❞ —Voltaire

❝To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.❞ —Voltaire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-clvDxl8qI

❝I think that our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think that we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends. I think that they are all insane. But, I am liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what is insane about it. Don't you agree?❞ —John Lennon
❝The nihilism and rage sweeping across the globe are not generated by warped ideologies or medieval religious beliefs. These destructive forces have their roots in the obliterating of social, cultural and religious traditions by modernization and the consumer society, the disastrous attempts by the United States to carry out regime change, often through coups and wars, and the utopian neoliberal ideology that has concentrated wealth in the hands of a tiny cabal of corrupt global oligarchs.❞ —Chris Hedges, The Age of Anger
http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/the_age_of_anger_20170611

Anonymous said...

The lunatics are running the asylum

Anonymous said...

The survivors are being placed in multi-million dollar apartments in London! Soon you Queens sheeple will be sharing any extra bedrooms/basements in your homes with homeless folks placed their by Mayor Fugazio and his cronies.

Anonymous said...

It's not a question of 'IF,' Queens 'SHEEPLE,' but 'WHEN!' Then, the empowered, taxpayer-funded-for-life, cradle-to-grave idiot, Shithead Chuck Schumer' can unveil YET another faux plan of protection (Schumer's plan + anarchy = PLANARCHY), so that he can herd the 'SHEEPLE CITI-OTS' (city + idiots), into a continually false sense of city and state government working for the people, when in fact they are hardly working (if at all)!

And, then the vicious cycle repeats until a new breed of troglodytes jockeys for the remnants of a defined city or state pension system for which every single one of the deprived 'SHEEPLE' will continue to pay for the next generation of dereliction of public duty (and, pensions that were ironically designated for We, The People), and they will pay IN PERPETUITY——and, the public be eternally duped, bilked, scammed and damned!

❝The Earth isn't dying. It's being killed. And, the people who are killing it have names and addresses.❞ —Utah Phillips

❝We hang the petty thieves and elect the great ones to public office.❞ —Aesop

❝Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.❞ —Voltaire

❝It's dangerous to be right when government is wrong.❞ —Voltaire

❝To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.❞ —Voltaire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-clvDxl8qI

❝I think that our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think that we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends. I think that they are all insane. But, I am liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what is insane about it. Don't you agree?❞ —John Lennon
❝The nihilism and rage sweeping across the globe are not generated by warped ideologies or medieval religious beliefs. These destructive forces have their roots in the obliterating of social, cultural and religious traditions by modernization and the consumer society, the disastrous attempts by the United States to carry out regime change, often through coups and wars, and the utopian neoliberal ideology that has concentrated wealth in the hands of a tiny cabal of corrupt global oligarchs.❞ —Chris Hedges, The Age of Anger
http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/the_age_of_anger_20170611

Anonymous said...

Just count the antennas and you know how many live there

Anonymous said...

Apartment dwellers don't count. They don't drive. They voted for Hillary.