Tuesday, February 9, 2016

LIC just gets taller and taller

From LIC Post:

A new development is threatening to take the title of Queens’ tallest building from the Citi tower.

Developers filed plans Saturday for a 79-story, 774-unit building at 23-15 44th Drive, next to the CUNY School of Law and across the street from 1 Court Square.

According to City documents, the building is slated to stand 964 feet tall. It would loom over the Citi tower, currently Queens’ tallest tower, and would also be taller than a building planned at 29-37 41st Ave., which made headlines last year for its potential to become Queens’ new tallest tower at 914 feet.

Developers for the 41st Avenue project, known as Queens Plaza Park, could not immediately be reached for an update on that project or comment on this story.

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Another tower of Babel.
As space becomes more scarce, eventually the grandchildren of these pompous millennials , will be all living like drones in vertical beehives.
Book my flight to Mars.

Anonymous said...

I don't have a problem with tall buildings in LIC, I have a problem with tall residential buildings in LIC. Court Square needs to be developed commercially to take some of the strain off the East River subway crossings. The idea that everyone needs to go into Manhattan to work is a bad one and needs to stop, but the only way to do that is out up commercial towers any god damn other place.
-somethingstructural

Jerry Rotondi said...

And what does Jimmy Van Bramer have to say about this?
"Thank you for my political campaign contributions"!

Thank you councilman Jimmy.
Safe within the sequestered confines of your Sunnyside Gardens historic district,
please feel free to put your rubber stamp of approval on more super towers for LIC.

Then you can complain that the transportation system is not adequate enough to serve the area.
Councilman Jimmy is the real estate industry's buddy.

Many other council members also nurse from the teat of real estate developers.
That spells mass corruption.
And do you poor voting fools still think that you are being represented by your community boards?

Jerry Rotondi said...

P.S.
It was Councilman Jimmy's support of the Wolkoff project that will soon replace the former "5 Pointz"... two tall towers!
Jimmy boy got chump change from the Wolkoff family. It amounted to $10,500 in political campaign contributions. Look it up.
It only proves that Councilman Jimmy can be bought as cheap as a two dollar whore!
Yet, two bucks here and two bucks there ...and it adds up to a tidy sum in exchange for f-----g a neighborhood!

Anonymous said...

I agree that other boroughs need to have more commercial development so that people can stop having to go to work in Manhattan. Train service also needs to catch up though. I worked in LIC for 2 years. My commute from Kew Gardens to LIC on the E is only 10 minutes less than my new commute from KG to Centre Street on the J/Z. Why does Queens always get screwed?

(sarc) said...

The millennials have come to the conclusion that they must work in Manhattan to have a salary capable of sustaining their lifestyle and covering the rent in the ivory tower.

There are many cities that have much higher population densities than New York City.
See a partial list below, I would love to visit as many of these as life allows.

And Queens has less than one-third the population density as Manhattan, so we have a long way to go...

Mumbai India , Karachi Pakistan, Lagos Nigeria, Taipei Taiwan, Bogota Colombia, Shanghai China, Lima Peru , Beijing China, Manila Philippines, Tehran Iran, Cairo Egypt, Baghdad Iraq, St Petersburg Russia, Mexico City Mexico, Santiago Chile, Singapore Singapore, Rio de Janeiro Brazil, Bangkok Thailand, Athens Greece, Madrid Spain, London UK, Tel Aviv Israel, Sapporo Japan, Buenos Aires Argentina, Moscow Russia, Barcelona Spain, Tokyo/Yokohama Japan, Birmingham UK, Berlin Germany, Paris France, Vienna Austria, Munich Germany, Stuttgart Germany, Dublin Ireland, Rome Italy, Kuala Lumpur Malaysia, Stockholm Sweden, Toronto Canada, Budapest Hungary, Rotterdam Netherlands, Frankfurt Germany, Hamburg German, Brussels Belgium, Helsinki Finland, Sydney Australia

Anonymous said...

It would be nice if the rooftop could be opened to the public as an attraction so that all Queens residents could appreciate the view, not only those with money.

JQ LLC said...

No one is going to live in this thing. They are safety deposit boxes for shady unscrupulous foreign billionaires and phantom LLC's to evade paying taxes in their native lands and here.

http://www.businessinsider.com/for-wealthy-foreigners-nyc-apartments-are-safe-deposit-boxes-with-a-view-2012-12


Anonymous said...

Will the developer offer community amenities? Not likely... Citi gave all manner of improvements, as I recall, ranging from transit to daycare...

Anonymous said...

Taller and taller with no room to park and not enough government services to keep up with the population growth.

Anonymous said...

I don't have a problem with tall buildings in LIC, I have a problem with tall residential buildings in LIC. Court Square needs to be developed commercially to take some of the strain off the East River subway crossings.

So employers will hire only Queens people and no one from Manhattan?

nitwit .. or queens politician.

Anonymous said...

@sarc

Some of those cities mentioned are wrong.

Here is the list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_population_density

Manila is pretty dense - 111,032 per square mile.

Now lets see Flushing:

http://www.city-data.com/neighborhood/Flushing-Flushing-NY.html

0.886 square mile

Population density: 28,868 people per square mile

That is very high! Manila is a city, Flushing is a neighborhood.
They working on 50000+/square mile!

Long Island City just for comparison:

http://www.city-data.com/neighborhood/Long-Island-City-Astoria-NY.html

3.308 square miles

Population density: 38,309 people per square mile

As we can see they are working in turning these NYC nabes into third world "paradises" with over development and over population.






georgetheatheist said...

Chinese building crap after earthquale in Tainan, Taiwan:

http://www.ctbuh.org/Portals/0/Media/NewsArchive/2016/02%20-%20February/08-12/Tainan.jpg

Happy New Year, Year of the Monkey.

Anonymous said...

georgetheatheist said...

"Chinese building crap after earthquake in Tainan, Taiwan"

Capitalism in its raw state. A republican businessman's ideal.

Anonymous said...

Who are these developers?

(sarc) said...

Anon;

Here is the source I used.

http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/largest-cities-density-125.html

I apologize for not using the Wikipedia source, please forgive me.

And from Wikipedia since that has become the Gospel of all known knowledge:

Borough Population density
Manhattan 69,467.5
Brooklyn 35,369.1
The Bronx 32,903.6
Queens 20,553.6
Staten Island 8,030.3

20,553.6 X 3 < 69,467.5

As I stated:

"Queens has less than one-third the population density as Manhattan, so we have a long way to go..."

We currently have an open borders policy, allowing anyone from a third world country to come here and breed an entire litter of anchor babies to be fed and paid for by the hard working taxpayers.

Regardless, we have a little ways to go yet, until we get to the level of some other cities...

Anonymous said...

@georgetheatheist:

I saw those pictures, the construction is very low quality, just like everything else today.
Cutting corners, saving money, maximizing profits.
For a little ink and paper most people will sell their soul!
In this case other peoples' lives!

Anonymous said...

See, like I've said,
Queens (LIC in particular) is becoming the new major bedroom borough nabe for those who work in Manhattan but can't afford to live there.
I don't mean a suburban bedroom borough like famed Levitt Town. These are bedroom borough tower millennials who do not barbecue or mow their lawns,

In other words, commuting drones , worker bees, higher end wage slaves. Enjoy living in your shoddily built "almost MANHATTAN towers".
Pay your nannies. Drink your lattes. When the rent becomes too high for your income, take in a room mate or two.
Relax. Rejoice! You've "made it" in the big apple! LOL!

Anonymous said...

Why is any sort of development always met with such skepticism and resistance? Shall we return to the days of horse drawn carriages and five and dime stores? Change in the only constant. Queens is evolving. Safety should of course be of paramount importance, however, what's to say these developers are not going to adhere to proper guidelines? Has anyone taken the time to research their other projects? A quick Google search shows that there have been many. Are there violations? There is such pessimism and cynicism in these comments. The LIC and the Jamaica and the Flushing of yesteryear will not be the same in the following decade. And in most cases, this is a very good thing.

Anonymous said...

"Why is any sort of development always met with such skepticism and resistance?"

Because the infrastructure is falling apart. Next?

JQ LLC said...

"Why is any sort of development always met with such skepticism and resistance? Shall we return to the days of horse drawn carriages and five and dime stores? Change in the only constant."

What a spurious defence and analogy, it couldn't have bee uttered any better than from a doe-eyed lobotomized mouth gaping mouth breather city hall staffer. Or a worm-tongued poisonous cynical unelected adviser or deputy mayor who once worked for a vulture investment firm.


"Queens is evolving. Safety should of course be of paramount importance, however, what's to say these developers are not going to adhere to proper guidelines?"

Because they don't, has Stringer has exposed recently that hyperdevelopment has led to more accidents in a short amount of time. And will certainly grow faster now that the tower pestilence is now spreading to the forgotten and world's borough.

Anonymous said...

At one time the "canyons of Wall Street" we're a solo act.
That's what LIC is slated to become, and there will be NO STOPPING this!
Get over it or move! MANHATTAN needs to spill over its density and you LICers sit in ground zero!

Anonymous said...

Maybe they should change their name from Long Island CITY to maybe Newtown

Anonymous said...

There is just too much residential 'GLUT' in LIC . The area needs class A commercial buildings to attract more companies to this part of Queens. Jetblue, Citicorp and even the U.N. have a presence there. I would really like to see other industries settle there so that I don't have to commute to Manhattan everyday.

Anonymous said...

"What a spurious defence and analogy, it couldn't have bee uttered any better than from a doe-eyed lobotomized mouth gaping mouth breather city hall staffer. Or a worm-tongued poisonous cynical unelected adviser or deputy mayor who once worked for a vulture investment firm."

Actually I am a dermatologist and I've been married to an architect for the past 17 years! We live in LIC. Have either of these developers had any issues or violations on previous projects? Looks like they have a pretty clean slate to me.

Anonymous said...

ConEd's Drew Manger wanted Sloan Kettering to put their labs in Sunnyside yards, on accounts of cheap electricity, but they snooted at us and opted for Jersey instead.

Anonymous said...

Did you know AmTrak passes over Northern near 55 Street? I actually get Amtrak in New Rochelle from Flushing. We could sure use a Queens and a Bronx Stop. Boston actually has THREE stops (BOS,BBY,BON) and Philly has TWO (N&S).

Anonymous said...

Amtrak?? Don't you mean the LIRR??

JQ LLC said...

. "Have either of these developers had any issues or violations on previous projects? Looks like they have a pretty clean slate to me"

Just wait for it.

Currently, the only violations so far are aesthetic and sociological. I don't know how one can look at that rendering and not be alarmed and suspicious. And besides, as with the majority of hyper-development, completed and prospected, it's not only about creating another bubble of phantom and vulture investment, but to dwarf and render non-existent of the history of this city and it's environs and citizens. As in the photo, they plan to make the plaza tower next to it insignificant. And when they are done with the majority of hideous 100 story tumors in Manhattan, it will virtually erase the empire state building from the skyline.

Really take a look from a distance, say from the rockaways and coney island. Since the completion of the freedom tower and the still in process wealthfare and money laundering safety deposit box tower on park and 56, you can barely notice the empire and even the chrysler building anymore.

This developer is also building a luxe hotel in Jamaica. Which makes no goddamn sense at all since it's mostly middle class, working poor and lowlife trash.

Funny thing about this developer is there isn't much info about him. Let's see now that transparency has become mandated into law can expose any past or current transgressions.
But his projects are totally incongruous with the towns they are in, which just shows an utter lack of concern for people already residing in them. And in a way, underlying contempt for them too.


Anonymous said...

Seems like the Xu s are behind this in Flushing http://queensbeans.com/first-look-the-farrington-hotel-and-condos-at-flushing/. Looks like a pretty nice mixed use building to me.

Anonymous said...

Hotel in Jamaica? No way! Why?

Anonymous said...

Some of you posters hit a nerve or two. The developer trolls have been instructed to counterpost.
We can smell you even in cyberspace. With your glistening slime trail, you slugs are easy to follow.

Anonymous said...

I for one am not a "developer troll"; I just appreciate growth and expansion and don't see progress as a bad thing.

JQ LLC said...

If this is the dermatologist, this kind of development and architecture isn't progressive, it's oppressive.

You're views are appreciated though. Try a psuedonym next time instead of anonymous to avoid future troll indictments.









Anonymous said...

You for one ARE likely a real developer's troll.
Prove you are not by posting your name.
Otherwise you are perceived as a LIAR?

Anonymous said...

Haha. Pretty funny that someone who posts as ANONYMOUS Demands that anyone sign his or her name. Double standard, anyone?

To the dermatologist if you are even really a dermatologist: no need to sign your name. Only about 8 people do. And if you share an unpopular opinion which you seem to, it wouldn't bode well for you with this bloodthirsty crowd. Considering you got through med school, immature you're fairly smart and have realized that already lol

Anonymous said...

Amtrak goes over the Hellgate bridge, parallel with Triboro

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