From the Daily News:
CITY MOTORISTS who try to save parking spaces using garbage cans could lose not only their spots but also their cans.
With the practice growing rampant in parts of Queens after repeated snowstorms, City Councilwoman Elizabeth Crowley is exploring legislation that would allow the city to confiscate garbage cans or other objects blocking parking spaces.
"The people who are breaking the rules will run out of material to reserve their spots," said Crowley (D-Middle Village).
Using objects to unofficially reserve street parking is illegal, according to the city Department of Transportation.
Crowley submitted a request in the Council yesterday to explore the possibility of allowing the Sanitation Department to confiscate obstructions.
"It's first-come, first-served, and I don't think that people who have parked in a particular spot have any more right than anyone else," she said.
Crowley said she understands the plight of residents who have shoveled out their spots but noted that doesn't make it right.
"It's not fair and I have no tolerance. The person doing that is breaking the law," she said.
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32 comments:
after a snowstorm, everyone has to dig out. To think you own a spcae is BS. I agree with this law.
The law seems appropriate but what about the space between Crowley's ears?
If someone on my block "saved" a spot for themself, I'd toss their space savers right through their front window.
Considering all the issues NYC faces this seems to be a silly unnecessary piece of legislation. I'm sure there are laws on the book already that deal with this. Instead of enacting redundant legislation at an already overburdened taxpayer expense, how about enforcing the existing laws?
Dizzy Lizzy is quite right. I hate it when people reserve the space in front of their home as their own, it not. So what, if you got stuck in a spot and had to dig it out and want it back if you leave it to go to the store or drive to work. It's not like it's your garage or driveway where you own it outright.
If you want to save the spot, the put all the snow back after you dig your car out. Then when you come back, dig out the spot again, and you can put your car bcak where it was.
What a huge waste of time for the cops to voucher all those confiscated garbage cans in the 104! There will be no cops on the street in the cold, all of them will be inside! Think this out, Dizzy Lizzy!
Or you can get your neighbors back by "saving" a spot using their cans.
Ayo bro. Aint body gonna be taking my spot. I'll crack ya head open wit my bat!
All you "anonymous" toads never had some asshole renter go on vacation and leave their crummy nissan in front of your house for months on end. Or better yet, leave their van sticking or foot or so in to your driveway. I say, you mess with the owners, you better accept the consequences!!
Someone ought to leave a hoopdid pickup in front of Crowley's office for two weeks, see how she likes it when she has to park her SUV three blocks away...in the snow...
It's already illegal. If you put your garbage cans out on non-pickup days, the Dept of Sanitation can write you a ticket now.
This is another useless and unenforceable law that Dizzy Lizzy spends taxpayer time on while overlooking the important things in the neighborhood.
What about the Con Ed wires Liz? Can you give us an update on that one?
Many of these people already have driveways where they can put their car. The reason they don't is because their illegal tenants can't gain access to their illegal apartments. At least that's how it is on my block as well as surrounding blocks of 73rd and
74th streets between Calamus and Grand Aves.
"some asshole renter go on vacation and leave their crummy nissan in front of your house for months on end."
Well if you have a driveway, why do you care if someone leaves a car in front of your house? And would a renter go on vacation for months? If it's parked in your driveway, have it towed.
As if someone who calls himself/herself LibertyBoyNYC is so superior, that he or she can look down on us anonymous toads.
Adding to what QC said: Is there any residential street in Q where there isn't alternate side-of-the-street parking? And put 311 on your speed dial to keep your driveway clear.
There are blocks with no alternate side--I live on one.
Law seems dumb since activity is already illegal...but what do I know?
Most streets in Queens actually do not have alternate sides.
At least "Dizzy Lizzy" is trying something.
I agree that saving spacing should be illegal but how about she get us some of those spaces the city took away in the interest of "Safety"?
I agree that saving spacing should be illegal but how about she get us some of those spaces the city took away in the interest of "Safety"?
"some asshole renter go on vacation and leave their crummy nissan in front of your house for months on end."
Call 311. Under the traffic rules, it's illegal to leave a car in the same location for more than 7 days.
"At least "Dizzy Lizzy" is trying something."
That's the problem. She's only trying – trying to get publicity in order to appear that she's actually working. Nothing she does actually improves the quality of life.
If she had any brains she could've made it in the private sector instead of living off taxpayers.
"Call 311. Under the traffic rules, it's illegal to leave a car in the same location for more than 7 days."
In my Queens neighborhood, on many of the streets there is no alternate side of the street parking. Last year, on my street, there was a car parked in the same location for SIX MONTHS.
I started calling 311 about two months in. I cited previous complaints using the complaint number they gave me on the previous calls. I did this at least seven times. The vehicle did not receive tickets and was not towed.
On several occasions after this, storms with high winds blew down big tree limbs onto the car thereby damaging it. I called 311, referenced the previous complaints again and noted that the car appeared abandoned because of all of the damage being done by the tree limbs. By this time, this car really started to look like crap. Covered with city dirt, dented, banged up. Still, despite my persistent complaints, NOTHING was done. No tickets, no towing.
Finally, the inspection sticker expired. That day I called 311 and told them about the expiration and referenced the previous complaint numbers. I then immediately called the non-emergency number of my local police precinct to tell them of my complaint about the expired sticker. Within a very short time, the police arrived and wrote two tickets - one for the expired inspection sticker and one for the registration sticker, which was falling off of the windshield.
As soon as the police left, I called my towing company (I have so many people block my driveway, I'm on a first name basis with the owner).
The owner of the towing company informed me that unless the vehicle had a ticket for blocking my driveway (which it wasn't), they could not tow it.
Fortunately (I guess), the very next day the owner of the vehicle suddenly appeared to take the vehicle away although it took her a while to get the thing started with the help of a tow truck guy she called.
The really infuriating thing here is that the car owner was a friend of some neighbors who said they would "keep an eye on the car" while she was away in Florida having a baby (her words).
ARRRRGGH!!!!!
So,
1. Alternate side of the street parking really isn't everywhere in Queens
2. Having a piece of crap vehicle that looks abandoned in front of your house for MONTHS at a time really is irritating - especially if you're a homeowner and have a vested interest in your neighborhood.
3. The seven day "rule" about ticketing and towing cars not moving from a location either isn't a rule or it simply isn't enforced.
This is how it plays out in the real world of Queens.
So, while I really dislike a lot of the parking shenanigans that go on, I don't think the new law proposed would really help. I think making it easier to ticket and tow cars that are obviously being left for long-term stints would be a more effective method to help address parking problems.
I say focus on the illegally parked and abandoned cars - not garbage cans.
What Crowley is proposing is mostly for during snow. What you are talking about is something completely different. I still think residential parking permits are a good idea. Just think how many spaces would be freed up if people actually had to register their cars in NY instead of in Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.
I guess Crowley and her staff must have had a hard time finding parking spots. That is why she is doing this.
"Well if you have a driveway, why do you care if someone leaves a car in front of your house?"
If a person has a driveway they can park on the street if they want. There is no law against that.
There is no law against it, it's just very selfish. It seems to me the people complaining the most about other people's inconsideration are the biggest offenders.
I think Dizzy Lizzy should concentrate on bigger issues and stop wasting tax payers money. First she supports the smoking ban and now this! Why doesn't she do her job and go after people like Huang who illegally dump garbage in the back lot of Mazeau st? What is up with her? She only likes to lick the balls because she has none? Enjoy your last term bitch.
re: CALL 311....ditto ditto in Bayside.
an asian family buys a house,immediately tries to convert whole house and close off driveway,(partially to corral illegal fowl)
an attempt to convert to two,two family plot,gets a visit from d.o.b.. result is a STOP WORK ORDER. they keep postponing hearings since july,2010 ?
their extra long van has been on street and has not moved in months .
most of our laws are unenforceable or bribe ridden.
"--have it towed"
"leaking broken down Nisson"
"van sticking a foot+ into the driveway"
I had both this problem's.
1- Never have it towed, you could be looking at a lawsuit.
2-Never call the cops they wont do anything but place you on record then come for YOU if something happens.
I heard story's of slipping floor jacks with a wheels under the rear axle and disposing of them. Preferably in a bus stop, the city will usually THEN tow in a 1/2 hour.
A fire hydrant will work too, just not to close in case of a fire
Stumbling and mumbling Elizabeth Crowley hasn't figured out yet that she can't legislate everything.
"I had both this problem's.
1- Never have it towed, you could be looking at a lawsuit.
2-Never call the cops they wont do anything but place you on record then come for YOU if something happens."
Joe,
If a person broke the law and by blocking a driveway, they could try suing someone who had their vehicle towed all they want. But, they're likely to get nowhere BECAUSE THEY BROKE THE LAW.
As far as the other comment regarding the police coming after honest citizens who contact them, I honestly don't know what to say.
JOE! For the love of God and all that is holy - please learn when to use an apostrophe and when not to. Thank you!
Unlike private parking lots No tow company will hook a 2nd party car without the cops ticket or police report in front of a residential building.
If you live in the 104 district you may as wait till the cows come home ---then ride one if you need to go someplace
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