Tuesday, April 27, 2010

We're the poorest big city in America

From the Daily News:

I hate to break it to you, New Yorkers, but you're not as rich as you think.

Your median family income of $56,000 looks decent on paper - ranking 19th in the country. But you're burning through those paychecks to cover some of the highest taxes, housing costs, energy bills, health premiums and grocery prices in the country.

Factor in that sky-high cost of living, and New York's real income drops below $41,000. That's the lowest in the country, behind Mississippi at $45,000.

And real income in the five boroughs ranks lower than Detroit's.

That's right, New Yorkers. You're living in the poorest big city in America.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

i wonder if comp-troll-er John Liu will admit that tax revenues in n.y.c. are in the sewer. how can we sustain the city employee salary,pension,benefit scam,when the private sector has 9.2% -17% unemployment. they can not pay taxes any longer.

city democrats spending the money foolishly and then constantly raising...raising...our taxes has got to stop.

REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER......

Anonymous said...

did you know that liu has two security officers to protect him.

Mike Tirelli said...

If you can make it here you can make it anywhere.

Still the greatest city in the world.

Anonymous said...

What do you expect when the landlords charge $2000 for a closet in Manhattan and the developer bastards continue to drive the price of land and houses to ridiculous levels as a result of runaway real estate speculation.

Babs said...

Add Don Con Ed to that list.

The average medium sized home in Queens costs $600.00 plus in gas & electric per winter months.

Anonymous said...

With such a high cost of living, is it any surprise that so many New Yorkers drive cars with out-of-state license plates?

With sky-high taxes, rent, heath premiums, food prices, at least we can still save on car insurance.

Anonymous said...

"With sky-high taxes, rent, heath premiums, food prices, at least we can still save on car insurance."

And the same kind of scamming, get-rich-quick, irresponsible thinking got us into the housing crisis.

Apart from insurance fraud being a crime, who is going to cover your loses when you kill someone?

Anonymous said...

Mike Tirelli couldn't have said it better.

Move to Kansas if you can't handle it.

Anonymous said...

How about clerks like me who are trying to make it on incomes under 40K.

Everyone wants me out on the street, but Oh, by the way, pick yourself up from the gutter, put on a nice suit and them come in and type my letters, answer my phones and copy my documents.

Anonymous said...

A study should be done on the richest politicians; I bet New York ranks #1 -- it's what happens when you skim!

Anonymous said...

This is news? This city is a 3rd world country. too many poor and ignorant people. And we have to thank king Bloomberg and Chrisitine Quinn for this. There is no room for the middle class. This city is only suited for the perverse rich, for the morally corrupt politicians and for the illegals.

Gary A said...

He "lent" me the money. I didn't STEAL it!

Deke DaSilva said...

I hate to break it to you, New Yorkers, but you're not as rich as you think
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That's right, New Yorkers. You're living in the poorest big city in America.


Thanks, do I really need to be reminded?

This startling and disturbing insight comes from Eamon Moynihan, a nephew of the late, great Sen. Daniel Moynihan who obviously inherited the gene for deep thinking. A former Pataki administration official, Moynihan argues that lowering New York's ruinously high cost of living must become a top priority in Albany and City Hall.

If Eamon Moynihan is 10% as smart as his uncle Daniel Patrick, then you’d best listen to him: “Attention must be paid!”

Remember, Daniel Patrick Moynihan warned us about poverty in 1965 in The Moynihan Report, and the “Left” crucified him. 40 years later, Daniel Patrick has been proven correct.

They’ll probably crucify Eamon also, and 40 years later we’ll be wondering why we didn’t listen to him either. We need more people like him to provide a new perspective, new ideas.

The other alternative is to start taking Mandarin Chinese lessons.

Deke DaSilva said...

I hate to break it to you, New Yorkers, but you're not as rich as you think
.
.
That's right, New Yorkers. You're living in the poorest big city in America.


Thanks, do I really need to be reminded?

This startling and disturbing insight comes from Eamon Moynihan, a nephew of the late, great Sen. Daniel Moynihan who obviously inherited the gene for deep thinking. A former Pataki administration official, Moynihan argues that lowering New York's ruinously high cost of living must become a top priority in Albany and City Hall.

If Eamon Moynihan is 10% as smart as his uncle Daniel Patrick, then you’d best listen to him: “Attention must be paid!”

Remember, Daniel Patrick Moynihan warned us about poverty in 1965 in The Moynihan Report, and the “Left” crucified him. 40 years later, Daniel Patrick has been proven correct.

They’ll probably crucify Eamon also, and 40 years later we’ll be wondering why we didn’t listen to him either. We need more people like him to provide a new perspective, new ideas.

The other alternative is to start taking Mandarin Chinese lessons.

Anonymous said...

start taking mandarin classes. LOL, John Liu offered them free in his former district. LOL>

Babs said...

Deke: "This startling and disturbing insight comes from Eamon Moynihan, a nephew of the late, great Sen. Daniel Moynihan who obviously inherited the gene for deep thinking."

HAH! Deep thinking? More like deep dark pessimism!

you're always the voice of doom and gloom Deke . . . .

we're NOT the Republic of Somalia!

Anonymous said...

The goal of NY politicians is to encourage illegals to move here, overdevelop property to make room for them, make the rich richer and drive out the middle class. Looks like they are succeeding. When Bloomberg came into office, my real estate taxes were $1800. Now they are up to $4100. Water and sewer taxes go up every year. Con Ed has to raise their rates to keep up with the overdevelopment to update their systems (which the developers should pay). Food is constantly rising and rents are too. There is no money left to go to a movie (the price was raised on that). The politicians turn a blind eye and continue to raise our taxes, yet they never miss a vote on a pay raise for themselves and stuff our tax dollars in their slush funds to pay for special interest votes down the road. Our government is broken on all levels and it is becoming too hard to live in this city. All that will be left are the very poor and the very rich. What was once a beautiful, vibrant city is now a Third World Slum. Thank all the politicians from the Feds on down. They are responsible for our demise.

Deke DaSilva said...

HAH! Deep thinking? More like deep dark pessimism!

No, Daniel Patrick Moynihan was the proverbial "canary in the coal mine".

The black out-of-wedlock birthrate was around 30% back in the 60's. Today it's about 70%, and the white out-of-wedlock birthrate is about where the black rate was in the 60's.

How's that working out for the underclass, Bubs?

you're always the voice of doom and gloom Deke . . . .

It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta play "bad cop"......

we're NOT the Republic of Somalia!

Not yet, but we're getting there, keep working at it!

georgetheatheist said...

What are you all bitching about? Appreciate your Rainbow City.

Bukharians, Ecuadorians, Senegalese.

Oh, the humanity!

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Anonymous said...

NYC will be feeling it when the middle classers like myself, move away and take all our tax dollars with us. Then the rich and illegals can start paying for this craphole.

Babs said...

Deke said: "The black out-of-wedlock birthrate was around 30% back in the 60's. Today it's about 70%, and the white out-of-wedlock birthrate is about where the black rate was in the 60's. "

"out-of-wedlock" . . . ya' mean like the babes of today are too "fast" daddy-o?

Your statement is right out of an old James Dean movie -

you are saying that people have to be married to have sex? wow . . . you're either stranger than I thought you were OR you're very very old -

Deke - also I hate to break this to you but many women are raising children on their own today because they WANT to.

Babs said...

oops - sorry Crappy I see Deke's brilliant statement was removed. . . .I must have been responding at the same time.

Queens Crapper said...

Deke's statement is still there. And I agree that single parenthood is a fast track to poverty. Unfortunately, a lot of the girls who have babies without husbands are already poor.

Babs said...

If a girl has a good support group - mother, sister, etc. she will succeed in spite of early motherhood.

I know a single mom of three who went to Columbia U. on a grant for single mothers - never paid a dime.

There is a lot out there for working mothers today - it's not the way it was years ago.

Sometimes you just have to play the cards the way they lay.

Queens Crapper said...

Most don't have good support groups.

Most are on welfare. And they will teach their kids to do the same thing.

Deke DaSilva said...

"out-of-wedlock" . . . ya' mean like the babes of today are too "fast" daddy-o?

Your statement is right out of an old James Dean movie -


James Dean? I've been told that I resemble David Beckham, but he's a bit of a dimwit, so it's not much of a compliment.

you are saying that people have to be married to have sex? wow . . . you're either stranger than I thought you were OR you're very very old -

Never said that, you're reading what you wish to see.

Deke - also I hate to break this to you but many women are raising children on their own today because they WANT to.

That's fine if you're a pop singer named Madonna, but if your name is Tameeka and you live in Bushwick, the odds are already stacked against you.

If you wish to raise a child on your own, fine. Just don't expect me or any other taxpayer to pay the bill for your social service programs.

I know a single mom of three who went to Columbia U. on a grant for single mothers - never paid a dime.

You're cherry picking your anecdotes here, obviously. You found ONE case of a successful single mother, and you're trying to use that one case to cast a favorable light on the rest of the population. How about the thousands of others? How are they doing?

The problem is, people like you have trouble thinking abstractly - you focus on one person you personally know, rather than looking at the data and seeing that life for the rest of the bunch is not so sweet....

There is a lot out there for working mothers today - it's not the way it was years ago.

And who ends up paying for all this? Taxpayers? Charities? The Tooth Fairy?

Sometimes you just have to play the cards the way they lay.

Sometimes you're better off not playing cards, and not getting layed!

Babs said...

Crappy said: "Most are on welfare. And they will teach their kids to do the same thing."

whatever - I'm more concerned with corporate welfare - they're the real welfare queens.

Babs said...

Deke said - "The problem is, people like you have trouble thinking abstractly"

HAH! - I see you learned a new word from me recently and that you are able to put it in a sentence. . . that makes me feel good. My posting therefore has not been in vain.

Babs said...

Deke said quoting me: "Never said that, you're reading what you wish to see."

am I?!

your term of "Out-of-wedlock" means having babies (i.e. having sex) outside of marriage . . . . hellooooo. . . ooo . .

Babs said...

Deke said: "James Dean? I've been told that I resemble David Beckham, but he's a bit of a dimwit, so it's not much of a compliment."

Beckham? really? I pictured you more like Father Time . . . or Moses.

Deke DaSilva said...

your term of "Out-of-wedlock" means having babies (i.e. having sex) outside of marriage . . . . hellooooo. . . ooo . .

Read what I wrote, ignoramus!

In every instance where I wrote "out-of-wedlock", it was followed by birthrate.

I said NOTHING about sex outside of marriage!

My posting therefore has not been in vain.

Most of your postings are dross.

The UK pop group ABC had a song in the 80's:

Vanity kills, It don't pay bills....

Beckham? really? I pictured you more like Father Time . . . or Moses.

I have a mental image of you looking like Phyllis Diller or Ruth Buzzi, just not as attractive.

Ya gotta love folks like Babs!

She's so open minded, her brain is falling out!

Anonymous said...

BAB'S SAID should just shut the fuck up...

Babs said...

Ladies and gentlemen -

"Out-of-wedlock" is the phrase of the day . . .

Anonymous said...

Those who still say NYC is "the greatest city in the world" are out of touch with reality.

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