32 units to replace 2. No parking will be included, and it's a bus ride to the train. What is wrong with this city? I would wish that nobody moves in, but then they'd just turn it into a homeless shelter.
This is the tacky tropical island/south american resort shit they have built in Brooklyn by Prospect Park. These developers and the demo they want just love to be near and have views of parkland.
And now it's coming to Queens. At least they are building that white behemoth on high ground and not by the beach. Still incongruous with the neighborhood, but they do not give a shit.
Those diving boards look like landing pads for cars from the Jetsons.
Why protest? Someone wants to build something new (and God forbid make a buck). Here is the straight talk. Housing will not get any more affordable without new market rate supply. This site is near transit (I'm sorry but bus is transit, or a 3,500 foot walk to the E/F stop is not so terrible). Regarding parking, this site is zoned R7A and since the lot is less than 10,000 feet, they only have to provide 30% (5 spaces) of units with parking. Since that comes out to less than 15, then the parking is waived. Guess what? 5 spaces allows more units to be built at a lower cost. That is good! Quit your NIMBY whining and acknowledge that we live in a free market and you do not get to decide what is "good looking" buildings.
Wake up folks! Forest Holls has all the density of Manhattan with none of its art culture brains or architecture. If you expect better, take another puff of whatever you're smoking.
Why protest? Someone wants to build something new (and God forbid make a buck).
You sound like Vinnie the REBNY cheerleader. The free market you are referring to is actually the rigged market. More congestion, more traffic, less space, but hey you made your buck and the city will make plenty of money in new taxes. So is a win win situation for the "in people". Pathetic.
The new building looks pretty nice to me - it's got curves and terraces and isn't just a giant box - but the houses it's replacing are really nice. This location is within walking distance of the subway, unless you're terminally lazy - but it's also an area that's already way too tight on parking. To have zero parking for 35 units is absurd - the area doesn't have room for even a dozen more cars on the street.
>Bluarch Architecture is behind the design that takes on an art-deco style.
Whoever wrote this article has no clue what art-deco style is. That, or I have no clue, but that doesn't look anything like what people think of when they hear "art-deco".
Why protest? Someone wants to build something new (and God forbid make a buck). Here is the straight talk. Housing will not get any more affordable without new market rate supply. This site is near transit (I'm sorry but bus is transit, or a 3,500 foot walk to the E/F stop is not so terrible). Regarding parking, this site is zoned R7A and since the lot is less than 10,000 feet, they only have to provide 30% (5 spaces) of units with parking. Since that comes out to less than 15, then the parking is waived. Guess what? 5 spaces allows more units to be built at a lower cost. That is good! Quit your NIMBY whining and acknowledge that we live in a free market and you do not get to decide what is "good looking" buildings
EXHIBIT A OF WHAT IS WRONG IN QUEENS. NO ONE IN THE BETTER PARTS OF NYC TALK LIKE THIS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY HAVE REAL CIVICS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND CAN TALK OUT AND USE THE MEDIA- SOMETHING BEYOND MOST OF QUEENS. HERE YOUR GOAL IS SIMPLE: BE PLUGGED IN, ON MATTER HOW MEAGER THE REWARD, HOW MARGINALIZED YOU REALLY ARE. THIS IS CONSIDERED CIVIC CULTURE I QUEENS. YOGURT HAS MORE CULTURE PEOPLE!
Sorry but I'm not Vinnie. I have few less syllables in my name. There is some rigging to be sure; just a few blocks away for an arbitrary reason, you can only build single family homes; same goes just a few blocks from the E/F station. Jeez, quit your whining NIMBY
If your going to whine at least know your facts, parking is required and as far as zoning no special privlage is given, the entire area is big multi family buildings!
Vinnie the REBNY cheerleader is goign stupid. He wants skyscrapers in Forest Hills, LIC, Astoria, just about everywhere. He is so stupid and greedy that cares about no one, but himself and the few bucks he is making. Total moron in other words. Now go and service your bosses, make sure you take your kneepads with you. Asshole.
To NIMBY who can not spell "privilege" (privlage):
First, an 8-story building is far from a skyscraper. Actually at the worst, its contextual with other buildings in the neighborhood; at the best, its actually much smaller in both height and density (FAR, or Floor Area Ration) than other nearby buildings.
Second, regarding parking, please thoroughly (THOROUGHLY!) read Article II, Chapter 5 (Off Street Parking Regulations): parking is not required for this particular sized project on this particular lot!
1. Lot is less than 10,000 square feet and therefore only has to provide parking for 30% of units? Check! 2. If said amount of units that equals 30% of units is less than 15 (in this case it is about 4-5), then the parking requirement is waived? Check!
Well, there you go!
Keep the questions, er, comments coming! I'm glad to respond and set you straight.
PS. My name is not Vinnie but a renter in Kew Gardens but you don't care and would rather use your imagination, go for it!
To mar the integrity of Forest Hills, Kew Gardens, and any of the English Tudor style homes is a desecration of the original architects of good city planning in the first place! Now, I call these ugly, sterile and visually vapid structures 'hideosities,' and I think that I invented a new word upon seeing these obvious blights on the landscape.
Frankly, politicians and city planners are the bane of any civilized society, when it is the politicians themselves who are REBNY's back lot, whore bitches, as they just keep building taller and taller, and uglier and uglier as urban planning takes the form of a dystopian, hollow and nihilistic sphere that continues to alienate people, ideas and democracy, and substituting in its place a dictatorship style, totalitarian monarchy that only continues to divide and separate until total anarchy prevails.
Right now, Queens County is that dystopian sphere of the deadliest combination of all: Systemic political corruption, versus a frozen, alienated people whose voices are silent and their actions complicit BECAUSE of government fear and paralysis——exactly like neo-fascism, neo-feudalism, neo-Bolshevism and neo-liberalism fearfully dictate——and, the public be damned (again and STILL)!
Nineteen eighty-four and George Orwell: HERE WE ARE!
My name is not Vinnie but a renter in Kew Gardens but you don't care and would rather use your imagination, go for it!
Aha, you are Vinnie all right. The English teacher for REBNY who really lives in Whitestone. So Vinnie slut, listen, this ugly crap belongs in some ghetto, not historic Forest Hills. You don't need to quote from the corrupt regulatations and laws, they mean nothing. So keep lining your pockets and set your buddies straight while entertaining your family members with your amazing knowledge, sorry, stupidity and lack of common sense. We can't fix stupid and you my friend are really stupid.
Get rid of central urban planning and let the free market take over. That is what created the original Tudor houses. Not planners, but builders operating in a pre-1961 Zoning Resolution-free era.
Why does anyone think its ok to destroy beautiful picturesque neighborhoods!?! The proposed building is UGLY in respect to the tree lined, grassy, QUIET, SUBURBAN house it is replacing. That's the problem that WE WHO OBJECT TO THIS are having.
For those of you that think the proposed replacement is wonderful I say this - MOVE TO MANHATTAN OR SOME OTHER BRICK AND MORTAR CITY where SUBURBIA is missing !! I myself do not live in Manhattan because I enjoy open spaces, tree lined streets, grass covered lawns, greenery and QUIET, STILLNESS. A building of this type will only increase the population, create pedestrian and traffic congestion as well as increase noise pollution and the local crime rate.
Additionally with all the concrete replacing critical earthland destruction of the ecosystem will increase flooding by way of depleted areas in which rain water cannot be absorbed into the earth and the sewer system will not be able to accommodate runoff in the surrounding areas.
Maybe when all of those who support overbuilding drown like rats in the next big storm the rest of us can tear down these eyesores and live quietly in suburbia again.
>Additionally with all the concrete replacing critical earthland destruction of the ecosystem will increase flooding by way of depleted areas in which rain water cannot be absorbed into the earth and the sewer system will not be able to accommodate runoff in the surrounding areas.
That's why we have bioswales. Oh wait, I bet you're opposed to them too.
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It's already too cramped and crowdwd over there.
Who the f&%k allows that ugly crap to be built - and what idiot would want to live in it?
I just love the diving boards motif. Makes it convenient for the suicides.
32 units to replace 2. No parking will be included, and it's a bus ride to the train. What is wrong with this city? I would wish that nobody moves in, but then they'd just turn it into a homeless shelter.
This is the tacky tropical island/south american resort shit they have built in Brooklyn by Prospect Park. These developers and the demo they want just love to be near and have views of parkland.
And now it's coming to Queens. At least they are building that white behemoth on high ground and not by the beach. Still incongruous with the neighborhood, but they do not give a shit.
Those diving boards look like landing pads for cars from the Jetsons.
It's starting folks . That section of KG will be unrecognizable in 10 years .
eyesore
That tree has to go.
At the least, that building has some style and is different. Better than the typical feders brick crap.
Where and when do we start protesting? Let's protest the Community Board and Borough President to get some pressure!!!
Why protest? Someone wants to build something new (and God forbid make a buck). Here is the straight talk. Housing will not get any more affordable without new market rate supply. This site is near transit (I'm sorry but bus is transit, or a 3,500 foot walk to the E/F stop is not so terrible). Regarding parking, this site is zoned R7A and since the lot is less than 10,000 feet, they only have to provide 30% (5 spaces) of units with parking. Since that comes out to less than 15, then the parking is waived. Guess what? 5 spaces allows more units to be built at a lower cost. That is good! Quit your NIMBY whining and acknowledge that we live in a free market and you do not get to decide what is "good looking" buildings.
Wake up folks! Forest Holls has all the density of Manhattan with none of its art culture brains or architecture.
If you expect better, take another puff of whatever you're smoking.
Kinda have to agree with the last Anon. Don't like it, then elect leaders who will change the laws.
Why protest? Someone wants to build something new (and God forbid make a buck).
You sound like Vinnie the REBNY cheerleader.
The free market you are referring to is actually the rigged market.
More congestion, more traffic, less space, but hey you made your buck and the city will make plenty of money in new taxes. So is a win win situation for the "in people". Pathetic.
its only a free market in another city
these idiots would've denied Frank Lloyd Wright a permit / variance
The new building looks pretty nice to me - it's got curves and terraces and isn't just a giant box - but the houses it's replacing are really nice.
This location is within walking distance of the subway, unless you're terminally lazy - but it's also an area that's already way too tight on parking. To have zero parking for 35 units is absurd - the area doesn't have room for even a dozen more cars on the street.
>Bluarch Architecture is behind the design that takes on an art-deco style.
Whoever wrote this article has no clue what art-deco style is. That, or I have no clue, but that doesn't look anything like what people think of when they hear "art-deco".
Why protest? Someone wants to build something new (and God forbid make a buck). Here is the straight talk. Housing will not get any more affordable without new market rate supply. This site is near transit (I'm sorry but bus is transit, or a 3,500 foot walk to the E/F stop is not so terrible). Regarding parking, this site is zoned R7A and since the lot is less than 10,000 feet, they only have to provide 30% (5 spaces) of units with parking. Since that comes out to less than 15, then the parking is waived. Guess what? 5 spaces allows more units to be built at a lower cost. That is good! Quit your NIMBY whining and acknowledge that we live in a free market and you do not get to decide what is "good looking" buildings
EXHIBIT A OF WHAT IS WRONG IN QUEENS. NO ONE IN THE BETTER PARTS OF NYC TALK LIKE THIS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY HAVE REAL CIVICS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND CAN TALK OUT AND USE THE MEDIA- SOMETHING BEYOND MOST OF QUEENS. HERE YOUR GOAL IS SIMPLE: BE PLUGGED IN, ON MATTER HOW MEAGER THE REWARD, HOW MARGINALIZED YOU REALLY ARE. THIS IS CONSIDERED CIVIC CULTURE I QUEENS. YOGURT HAS MORE CULTURE PEOPLE!
Sorry but I'm not Vinnie. I have few less syllables in my name. There is some rigging to be sure; just a few blocks away for an arbitrary reason, you can only build single family homes; same goes just a few blocks from the E/F station. Jeez, quit your whining NIMBY
If your going to whine at least know your facts, parking is required and as far as zoning no special privlage is given, the entire area is big multi family buildings!
Jeez, quit your whining NIMBY
Vinnie the REBNY cheerleader is goign stupid. He wants skyscrapers in Forest Hills, LIC, Astoria, just about everywhere.
He is so stupid and greedy that cares about no one, but himself and the few bucks he is making.
Total moron in other words.
Now go and service your bosses, make sure you take your kneepads with you.
Asshole.
You should try one of those diving boards Francis
To NIMBY who can not spell "privilege" (privlage):
First, an 8-story building is far from a skyscraper. Actually at the worst, its contextual with other buildings in the neighborhood; at the best, its actually much smaller in both height and density (FAR, or Floor Area Ration) than other nearby buildings.
Second, regarding parking, please thoroughly (THOROUGHLY!) read Article II, Chapter 5 (Off Street Parking Regulations): parking is not required for this particular sized project on this particular lot!
1. Lot is less than 10,000 square feet and therefore only has to provide parking for 30% of units? Check!
2. If said amount of units that equals 30% of units is less than 15 (in this case it is about 4-5), then the parking requirement is waived? Check!
Well, there you go!
Keep the questions, er, comments coming! I'm glad to respond and set you straight.
PS. My name is not Vinnie but a renter in Kew Gardens but you don't care and would rather use your imagination, go for it!
To mar the integrity of Forest Hills, Kew Gardens, and any of the English Tudor style homes is a desecration of the original architects of good city planning in the first place! Now, I call these ugly, sterile and visually vapid structures 'hideosities,' and I think that I invented a new word upon seeing these obvious blights on the landscape.
Frankly, politicians and city planners are the bane of any civilized society, when it is the politicians themselves who are REBNY's back lot, whore bitches, as they just keep building taller and taller, and uglier and uglier as urban planning takes the form of a dystopian, hollow and nihilistic sphere that continues to alienate people, ideas and democracy, and substituting in its place a dictatorship style, totalitarian monarchy that only continues to divide and separate until total anarchy prevails.
Right now, Queens County is that dystopian sphere of the deadliest combination of all: Systemic political corruption, versus a frozen, alienated people whose voices are silent and their actions complicit BECAUSE of government fear and paralysis——exactly like neo-fascism, neo-feudalism, neo-Bolshevism and neo-liberalism fearfully dictate——and, the public be damned (again and STILL)!
Nineteen eighty-four and George Orwell: HERE WE ARE!
My name is not Vinnie but a renter in Kew Gardens but you don't care and would rather use your imagination, go for it!
Aha, you are Vinnie all right.
The English teacher for REBNY who really lives in Whitestone.
So Vinnie slut, listen, this ugly crap belongs in some ghetto, not historic Forest Hills.
You don't need to quote from the corrupt regulatations and laws, they mean nothing.
So keep lining your pockets and set your buddies straight while entertaining your family members with your amazing knowledge, sorry, stupidity and lack of common sense.
We can't fix stupid and you my friend are really stupid.
Get rid of central urban planning and let the free market take over. That is what created the original Tudor houses. Not planners, but builders operating in a pre-1961 Zoning Resolution-free era.
Get rid of central urban planning and let the free market take over
Where, in socialist New York where everything is regulated to the max?
For God's sake we can't even elect normal, sane politicians.
Why does anyone think its ok to destroy beautiful picturesque neighborhoods!?!
The proposed building is UGLY in respect to the tree lined, grassy, QUIET, SUBURBAN house it is replacing. That's the problem that WE WHO OBJECT TO THIS are having.
For those of you that think the proposed replacement is wonderful I say this - MOVE TO MANHATTAN OR SOME OTHER BRICK AND MORTAR CITY where SUBURBIA is missing !! I myself do not live in Manhattan because I enjoy open spaces, tree lined streets, grass covered lawns, greenery and QUIET, STILLNESS. A building of this type will only increase the population, create pedestrian and traffic congestion as well as increase noise pollution and the local crime rate.
Additionally with all the concrete replacing critical earthland destruction of the ecosystem will increase flooding by way of depleted areas in which rain water cannot be absorbed into the earth and the sewer system will not be able to accommodate runoff in the surrounding areas.
Maybe when all of those who support overbuilding drown like rats in the next big storm the rest of us can tear down these eyesores and live quietly in suburbia again.
Looks like an eight story thermal mass.
Move to Douglaston, or Levittown, or Rockville Center, etc. then.
>Additionally with all the concrete replacing critical earthland destruction of the ecosystem will increase flooding by way of depleted areas in which rain water cannot be absorbed into the earth and the sewer system will not be able to accommodate runoff in the surrounding areas.
That's why we have bioswales. Oh wait, I bet you're opposed to them too.
Curzon Road is an Unclassified Street from 116 to118. What does that mean?
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