Holden fired off an angry letters to supporters after the Crowley campaign sent out literature questioning his allegiance to the Democratic Party and questioning his values. He called her a do-nothing career politician attempting to discredit him to distract voters from her own ineffective representation and he blamed the Queens Machine for smearing him.
“The mailers came from my campaign, not the Democratic Machine,” Crowley said. “He’s much more aligned with the party of Donald Trump than with the party I identify with. His values are not aligned with our party and he shouldn’t even be running in this primary. He should be running as a conservative.”
Holden has ripped Crowley for years in the pages of the Juniper Berry, along with her cousin, U.S. Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-Jackson Heights), the head of the Queens Democratic organization.
“I don’t even know what he’s talking about when he talks about the Machine,” the councilwoman said. “I’m proud to be a Democrat. I’m proud of Democratic values. He’s not. He’s not fooling me and I want to make sure that people who don’t know about him get to know how dangerous he is. How he doesn’t have any of the values that the Democratic Party stands for and I’m proud of the party. I identify with its values. It means something.”
Holden has been a registered Democrat for 44 years and a union member for 42 years.
From the Times Ledger:
“What is a good Democrat, one that hates Republicans?” Holden said in an interview with the TimesLedger staffers. “Don’t we have enough of that in this country? I think you work with both parties. I can work with anyone who is pro-community. She’s gone to the extreme left and I’m a moderate Democrat, conservative on some things and progressive on others. I was never a part of a political club being labeled a Democrat or a Republican. I’m a civic guy, a community guy. You have to work with both parties for the good of the community. I know I can do a better job than her, I know it. I work everyday with people who couldn’t get help from Crowley’s office.”
As president of the powerful Juniper Park Civic Association for 25 years, Holden has worked with both parties to accomplish vital projects and deliver services to the community. He has criticized Crowley and the so-called Democratic Machine, for years in the organization’s Juniper Berry quarterly magazine.
“I’ll always say it the way I see it,” Holden said. “I was never afraid of an elected official. They work for us. They’re public servants and I don’t have to kiss their ring. When you do something bad, I’ll turn on you.”
“She opted out of the matching fund program, which means she’s taking big money from special interests, and that’s when they control you,” Holden said. “My allegiance will be to the constituents and not the special interests that funded me.”
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Do "Democratic values" include sleeping with a married assemblyman in return for cash gifts from him that he stole from a Little League?
She's using the clinton distraction/ victim playbook. Must be hard running against a solid, intelligent person . She's running scared.
What a wretched, desperate woman. Values my ass. The democrat and neoliberal machine (another word Holden should use) loves to talk about values in addition to Donald Trump, which they allowed to happen by backing the repulsive Hillary Clinton, even today. Values don't pay the rent, values haven't got a higher minimum wage, values haven't stopped the hyper-development and market fabrications that are enveloping and suffocating this city.
Defeat cannot be so deserved for Ms. Crowley and her corrupt tax money plundering cousin.
Read the ledger story. It was a poorly written one sided hit piece on Holden. It was like Crowley dictated it to them. Ledger is a good paper. Expect better.
She is not part of the democratic machine?
hahahaha
She is the democratic machine!
'“I don’t even know what he’s talking about when he talks about the Machine,” the councilwoman said.'...Just another example of the many things Lizzy knows nothing about.
Honestly, I can't think of 1 useful thing Crowley has accomplished in her 8 1/2 years in office (unless you count spending 1M in tax money on rehabbing the bocce courts at Juniper Park useful).
Drain the swamp !
Dizzy Lizzy saying that Holden (or anyone) doesn't know what he's talking about is absolutely hilarious!!!
Just her DNA is
I'd like Holden better if the JPCA social media accounts didn't focus on race-baiting immigration bullshit. With that mindset he's an R in D clothing.
Lizzy sure is a dumbass though. And people cry about other neighborhoods candidates. LOL!
Is closing Rikers in favor of neighborhood jails, letting REBNY plan NYC's future and making our overcrowded city a Sanctuary City the Democratic values you are fighting for Liz? If so, count me out.
How much $ did the Atlas Terminal people give you to propose that new trolly line Lizzy? We know you didn't think that up on your own. BTW some of your neighbors are not to happy about having a train station in their backyard. Guess you will be house shopping in another neighborhood when your term is up.
"race-baiting immigration bullshit" = being opposed to illegal immigration. Most people are.
Desperate times call for desperate measures Liz...
The headline should have just read " Liz Crowley doesn't think".
I think the really disgusting thing about this are the coverage by the Queens weeklies during this election - having ads on the latest dining spot that is little more than a money laundering operation for some scum bag - but ignoring the outrage of another Vallone thumbing their nose at us (BTW did anyone find out who owns Studio Square?),
but especially my ire is for the one that favors "Honest Joe" Crowley's cousin because Bob Holden thinks and uses the obligation and duty of every American citizen: to express their opinion and not read off a script.
Trump fascist? Don't make me laugh. The Democratic Party of Queens is right up there with N Korea and the Nazis.
Of course this paper is going to support the Ditz, their arms were twisted by her cousin and his buddies who give the paper mucho moolah in ads and legal advertising.
The paper doesn't care who is elected as long as they get their piece of the action.
Money talks in the media business.
I haven't heard or ready much good about either one....they both are poor choices.
"I haven't heard or ready much good about either one....they both are poor choices."
You haven't heard much because the 30th city council district is a forgotten working class area that the media doesn't give a shit about and many people do not vote in a primary.
They don't call her "Dizzy Lizzy" for nothing. She's clueless and can't put a sentence together. Reading from a script is problematic for her. I'll take my chances with Holden. He's volunteered his services for years, while holding down a full-time job and raising a family. Lizzy gets paid by our tax dollars and doesn't do much for her constituents. She comes out at election time and has her photo-ops all over the neighborhoods she supposedly represents. She did not show up at the Maspeth Holiday Inn when the neighborhood protested over the summer. She knew about the shelter, but didn't tell her constituents about it. As I said, She has done little for the people she is supposed to represent. She needs to go. Her cousin, Virginia Joe, will find her a job in government.
Trump fascist? Don't make me laugh. The Democratic Party of Queens is right up there with N Korea and the Nazis.
The democratic party is totally Soviet style communists.
Just like their handler and chief financier - GEORGE SOROS.
If she gets reelected, maybe she'll move to to Virginia too.
One of Crowley's flyers suggested that Holden was anti small business because he didn't support The Knockdown Center. As if a huge rave center with a liquor license far from public transportation that would serve hipsters from out of the neighborhood was a small business.
She looks so good in this photo but looks can be deceiving.
I think the original plan for the knockdown was a ghostship type of venue and housing.
Find out who did the mailers and then you will know if they came from the machine
>The cousin of the head of the Queens machine
>only in office because of her family ties
>"I'm not part of the machine!"
Just how gullible does she think her constituents are?
I guess we'll find out on Tuesday.
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Trump fascist? Don't make me laugh. The Democratic Party of Queens is right up there with N Korea and the Nazis.
The democratic party is totally Soviet style communists.
Just like their handler and chief financier - GEORGE SOROS.
Thursday, September 07, 2017
When being identified as a Democrat or a liberal or a progressive begins to carry the same stigma as being pegged as a communist did in the 1950's then and only then will we know this country is finally heading in the right direction because these three groups have truly become the heirs of the old CPUSA.
All Crowley's mailers and ads need to be fact checked. Read the donor list at the NYCCFB website:
Pay to Play Contributions
The Knockdown Center contributed to her before the Community Board meetings (which opposed it) but NYS said yes (rarely goes against CB's), the 7 Eleven on 79th and Metro contributed before they officially announced they will build it and built right next to houses (worse place than acrros from Our Lady of Hope), the Argento Family (Broadway Stages at Atlas Park) are huge contributers. What do they want? trasnit hub? flip the property? convicted of pay for play in DeBlasio's Campaign for One New York, and every union in the nation contributes to her.
Matone group owns Atlas Park - same group that was ready to bild a Home Depot on the Elhurst Gas Tanks - what do they have planned for Atlas - A "build of right" zoned property in Glendale. They are only involved in mega projects - Google their projects.
IBEW - paid for legislation that passed in 2017. Just research it.
Crowley funds her mom's day care center in old Middle Village; builds a monument to Irish in Woodside, and Gerry Adams (terrorist) comes to bless it. Look at the Irish mob connection in funding Irish projects in LIC and the contruction trade donors - all Irish power brokers in the construction industry - we know how intimidation works in that industry. The Irish get overlooked due to Italian stereotypes in that industry.
Look at the corrupt union connections. Wait till election day - union thugs (getting a full days wage) will be electioneering and intimidating voters on each polling place corner. Happens each election she is in.
End this madness now.
The Knockdown Center wants to be a super club for the gentricfication version 2 crowd - the rich ones that come next. Rememeber the Meat packing district? They don't talk about the basement that can really be used creatively. "Arts Centers" don't make money - even Tyler Meyers admitted so in public. They are not funded like the 92St Y, The Beekman Center, the Pailey Center, .... they are a realestate play / super club site. Just need the 4000 seat liquor license to make it viable. Which they are inching to each year.
She looks good but looks can be deceiving. Something to remember.
Holden is a joke of a candidate. She doesn't even have to campaign it's hilarious.
She doesn't even have to campaign? Then why was she the first to use personal attacks, why does she have her union friends going door to door and standing at subways and why have people seen her more in the last 30 days than they have for the past 9 years?
Holden is a joke of a candidate. She doesn't even have to campaign it's hilarious.
What did you say clown?
Getting desperate eh?
At a recent debate between Holden and Crowley, Crowley tried to fool us with stats...She says only 13% of the Rikers prisoners wind up going to upstate prisons, hence we can close Rikers and set up local community jails. At first I thought that number was really low, either the judges are letting them all go, or her numbers were off. Is she saying 87% of the prisoners were falsely arrested?
Likely, most prisoners are released for 'time served' because our courts are so backlogged.
My friend was attacked by a homeless person, and the perps court appointed lawyer dragged the case out for 1.5 years. My friend had to go to court 8 times... the perp was released for.....you guess right ,.......time served.
Crowley needs to stop thinking she's speaking to fools. We are not dumb...so don't try to fool us by throwing bogus half facts around. We can figure it out.. We all know developers are lining up to build luxury condos on Rikers, and are secretly lining the pockets of our elected pols.... Don't be a fool.
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