Tuesday, January 13, 2015

They don't want the LNG project

From the Queens Courier:

A proposal to build a massive natural gas terminal, called Port Ambrose, just 17 miles off the southern shore of Long Island was met by angry opposition from hundreds of residents from Queens and surrounding counties last week during a public hearing near Kennedy Airport.

“Our families in southern Queens and Rockaway have been devastated by Superstorm Sandy and have seen first-hand what torturing our environment can do to us if we don’t take the proper precautions for the future,” Assemblyman Phil Goldfeder said. “Approving Port Ambrose and bringing dangerous liquefied natural gas to our communities is simply unacceptable.”

The facility, proposed by Liberty Natural Gas, would create a deep water terminal where liquefied natural gas would be imported by supertankers. The new site would receive the shipments, vaporize the gas, and deliver it through underwater pipelines to the coast with a capacity of about 400 million cubic feet of gas a day, according to a report in Capital New York.

Goldfeder, along with other elected officials voiced their concern about safety risks posed to residents on the coast by the presence of the deep-water gas port and the “highly combustible liquefied natural gas it would store.”

“The bottom line is that LNG is unsafe,” concluded Goldfeder. “It’s unsafe for the ocean, it’s unsafe for environment, and, quite frankly, it’s unsafe for the tens of thousands of families in southern Queens and Rockaway.”

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Are these people proposing the undersea gas station INSANE?

Anonymous said...

The Courier article stated that the CEO said he has the support of labor leaders, business, fishermen, and the project would yield "800 good paying jobs, investment of $90 million in the local economy...."
That's why the LNG project will eventually be approved, despite community opposition.

Anonymous said...

So sit in the cold or have your home changed over to oil. How are we supposed to heat our homes? Where do you think it comes from?

You want safety? Privatize it. When its run by the government you get the career civil servants who don't give a sh*t.

Anonymous said...

What about the Rockaway fault that is 30 years overdue for movement? I just saw a map that makes me think there even may be an existing gas line crossing it!

Anonymous said...

PRIVATIZE IT???? are you kidding me? This is the problem: even with regulations and all manner of oversight, the quest for increased profit margins leads to big problems (just google LNG and "explosions"). Lately, in an effort to save $ the various government agencies have allowed owners to self-certify that everything is a-ok, adding to insecurity. But, yeah: jobs. It's ok to blow up the world (except for areas like Billy-burg and most of Manhattan) as long as it's in the name of jobs.

Anonymous said...

Where's the ka-BOOM?

Anonymous said...

So sit in the cold or have your home changed over to oil. How are we supposed to heat our homes? Where do you think it comes from?

Thank you. Well said.

Any idea how so insignificant 30 years is in geologic time? All Geologists say "at any moment". Every shift is "overdue". What do you expect them to say? "Eh, don't worry about it". Shit Happens. Period.

Shirley Bassey said...

“Our families in southern Queens and Rockaway have been devastated by Superstorm Sandy and have seen first-hand what torturing our environment can do to us if we don’t take the proper precautions for the future,” Assemblyman Phil Goldfeder said.

After Assemblyman Goldfeder's rousing speech, he exited the public hearing and was met by his valet who ushered him into his waiting solar-powered car. A short 15 minute ride, and Assemblyman Goldfeder then arrived at his zero-emission solar-powered home.

Assemblyman Goldfeder then spent the rest of the evening reading Elizabeth Warren's latest book (printed on recycled vegetable fibers).

Goldfeder,
He's the man,
the man with the Midas touch,
A spider's touch ...

Anonymous said...

Bring it on!!

The idiot populace that follows the liberal anti-energy ideology of their low level brain addled elected officials reminds me of lemmings rushing over a cliff to a certain death.

ron s said...

Re Anonymous#3 and privatization of energy exploration and distribution:
Maybe we can get some BP folks. They seem to know what they're doing.

Anonymous said...

very odd
didn't 58th Street and 1st Avenue have gas tanks above ground at one point, and wasn't there two enormous gas tanks in Elmhurst Queens ?
I welcome it may be my con Edison bill will be cheaper remember gasparin cheaper and clean of any oil !

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute...something down't add up. Building an offshore floating or column supported LNG facility to IMPORT natural gas while, thanks to fracking, we have a glut of natural gas.

The only way this works is this is in fact an export facility.

Anonymous said...

They don't want it but they'll get it. This is the forgotten part of Queens. Notice nobody dare propose this kind of crap for Douglaston, Little Neck or Bayside.

Anonymous said...

^^ The ships won't fit at Bayside or Little Neck. Its way too Shallow. You need 80-100 ft deep water for ships to safely dock. Notice its 17 miles off shore. Get a ship navigation chart with Bath data for NY Harbor and its approaches.

http://www.hempsteadbaysailingclub.org/charts/12326%20APPROACHES%20TO%20NEW%20YORK%20FIRE%20ISLAND%20LIGHT%20TO%20SEA%20GIRT.PNG

http://allourenergy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/MockupLNGandBOEMnypaMap.jpg

http://allourenergy.com/wordpress/2014/09/29/event-interconnected-long-beach-or-lng-beach/

Anonymous said...

"You want safety? Privatize it. When its run by the government you get the career civil servants who don't give a sh*t.Y"

Fucking LOL. Yeah that private company BP did a stellar job in the Gulf of Mexico right?