“Imagine trying to explain what was happening to an 8-year-old child,” resident Shakema Brown said after collecting backpacks for her kids.
The 28-year-old mother of three, including a 3-month-old, moved in with some family after her house in Pennsylvania burned down.
“We moved into the Farragut Houses in Brooklyn, but soon after they [her family] got evicted and we ended up here at the Pan Am,” she said.
Brown added that she and her children were among the first to move into the facility June 6.
Sheila Jones nodded in agreement.
“I’m a grandmother caught in a situation who’s trying to get back on my feet. We all have a story about why we’re displaced,” she said.
Jones moved back to Queens, where she was born and raised, after losing her home in Georgia. She said she was surprised when she heard the tone of the protesters.
Georgia?
Pennsylvania?
Shouldn't there be a residency requirement for getting a $4,000/mo subsidy?
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“Sixty percent of the adults living here have jobs, but mostly they’re working for minimum wage and you can’t afford an apartment on minimum wage. That’s why they find themselves in this situation.”
So upzone some low density areas and cut parking requirements to bring down the cost of housing.
Don't they have homeless shelters in Georgia and Pennsylvania, or do we hold a monopoly on that problem?
If the city can piss away 4K/month - why not just rent them a house in a nice neighborhood?
You CAN NOT even rent a studio on minimum wage - even in shitty Flooshing! The illegal cheap basement apartments are primarily owned by Asians and only get rented to other Asians.
Why doesn't the city have an entire package in place to get these people on their feet again? Because they can't - there's nowhere to live in NYC any more and minimum wage is only fit for teenager after-school jobs. That was it was used for back in the 70s - adults never made minimum wage! Even when I started a job a minimum I quickly got raises back them - no one stayed at the bottom.
this is a story meant for frontline,everyone here is a victim of this city's failing housingpolicy and the mayor's indifference.
the developer's and construction workers have to work triple time to get these mixed affordable towers up and occupied if we're going to be one fun city for all.
Anonymous said...
“Sixty percent of the adults living here have jobs, but mostly they’re working for minimum wage and you can’t afford an apartment on minimum wage. That’s why they find themselves in this situation.”
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And if you are working a minimum wage job, then you should stay in Pennsylvania or Georgia, where you would be able to live in a place that you can afford, even on minimum wage. As someone who was born and raised in Pittsburgh, there are many places in the area that you you can rent or even buy, where you do not need to shell out a lot of money and it is not like the areas are bad either, they might not be fancy, but they are clean and safe.
I don't get it, you live in states that have way lower costs of living and you come to this extremely expensive city to move into a fucking crappy shelter. Oh, but if the city is picking up your tab courtesy of tax payers, why not.
And you have three kids, one a baby, but yet you cannot even take care of yourself, did you really think you could pop out three kids and take care of them as well, especially without a partner.
Poor life choices and no thinking ahead. People do need to at some point take responsibility for the paths they choose in life or at least be prepared, when those paths get rocky.
Next: No residency requirement for voting in City elections.
Anon #1-- The fixes you suggest would only result in more still-expensive housing and degraded quality of life. Thousands more apartments could be built in NYC without lowering the rental prices one bit.
yeah, air rights and buying the land and all the permits is what costs money. not a garage for the evil cars.
you want to see no parking, go to parts of brooklyn where people have to wait for an hour or more to get a spot
When "adults never made minimum wage" was back before we had millions of illegal aliens in the country. Hard to ask for more when there are 25 people behind you who will take the job for less. We need to secure the border and enforce the laws we have, then start deportations. Eisenhower did it in the 50's (Operation Wetback). You never hear this option because all the politicians are trying to get their votes in comming years after they have been giving asylum.
Your should direct your anger at your elected officials, from Joe Crowley getting arrested so that the flood of illegals decamps on your doorstep (while HIS family lives in a nice safe Washington suburb) to your do nothing Albany delegation that does little but take campaign money out of your community to pay 'consultants' for meaningless campaigns, to your city council that prides itself in being the Democratic (read Illegal Immigrant) Party.
Until you publicly act up with these people nothin's gonna happen people.
Send them back. Period. These people will never be able to afford housing in today's market here in NYC. In PA or GA though, housing costs are far less.
As much of an asshole as Guiliani was, at least he was smart enough to spend the exact right amount of money on these types of people: the cost of one way bus tickets elsewhere.
Boggles the mind and stuns the senses?!!! I'm not buying either story, so her house burned down in PA and she just comes here? what about the insurance money? i doubt that was even her home...see this is the type of crap that is driving out hard working New Yorkers from the state, I'm born and raised here and have saved enough money to buy a house in Florida, i can't wait to get out of this cesspool and i suggest you do the same if you can, tired of supporting these lowlife, irresponsible rejects
How does one get evicted from NYC public housing NYCHA/projects, the PJ's- you may very well ask?
Number One- the rent is adjusted to your income- if you are on welfare, that's who pays it. If you have kids under 18 you are guaranteed the rental payments from Jiggetts. Welfare pays the rent!! Number Two- if you are a drug dealer or a ho renting out your ass in public housing you will get evicted. If you finally get caught after years and years of drug dealing, your mother/father, grand parents who were drug dealing & they think they can keep it up for the next generation.
How do parents not pay rent? Why they use the money for drugs, partying, new clothes and know that under Jiggets The City/Welfare will pay the back rent. Maybe they go home to the DR, use the rent money for plane tickets and living large. Yes, under Jiggetts The City pays the back rent but after five or six times of it, even Welfare gets annoyed. That's how you get evicted from public housing.
It's a mentality of the state will take care of us or we will burn it down.
If I'm in house fire in my home state, why would I move three states over to go into a shelter? Unless of course I kn0w how to work the system and already did that in my home state. The house burn down story works well only the first time.
"Anon #1-- The fixes you suggest would only result in more still-expensive housing and degraded quality of life. Thousands more apartments could be built in NYC without lowering the rental prices one bit."
Ten thousand units of additional housing would be less than 0.5% expansion of housing stock. That's roughly what we have annually today in NYC. Tokyo, another large in demand city, has annual housing expansion of ~2%. No coincidence that their housing prices are far cheaper than the USA. You're right. Thousands of units isn't enough. You need tens of thousands of units of expansion annually. Move towards a freer land market and housing prices will drop.
SATURDAY, AUGUST 23, 2014
Anonymous said...
"yeah, air rights and buying the land and all the permits is what costs money. not a garage for the evil cars.
you want to see no parking, go to parts of brooklyn where people have to wait for an hour or more to get a spot"
The point would be if people aren't forced to pay for parking then fewer people would drive, so you wouldn't spend a single second waiting for a spot.
Cost of construction makes housing affordable for most, even with all existing regulations and permits, without parking. Right now it doesn't matter all that much because housing prices are so inflated that parking isn't a huge cost. If you eliminate the housing shortage then parking requirements would add tens of thousands to the cost of units in apartment buildings making them unaffordable for many.. The reason few can afford market prices is because people are bidding up the prices because there is a housing shortage. Eliminate the shortage and the cost of housing drops. The cost of land or air rates is determined by what you can do with it, not some intrinsic value.
If you can build for 100k a unit and sell for 500k a unit because of the housing shortage, then you'd be willing to pay almost 400k per unit for land. So that's what developers do, they bid up the cost of land to about that much. If the city ends this artificial housing shortage then the price drops. If it goes down to 200k per unit then the cost of land per unit is less than 100k. In some areas land values would increase since the number of units would increase by enough to make up for the massive decrease in per housing unit land costs, in some areas they would decrease.
"If I'm in house fire in my home state, why would I move three states over to go into a shelter? Unless of course I kn0w how to work the system and already did that in my home state. The house burn down story works well only the first time."
Or if NYC was your home and you tried living elsewhere and it didn't work out, maybe it's time to move home.
Send them back. Period. These people will never be able to afford housing in today's market here in NYC. In PA or GA though, housing costs are far less.
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Notice that when we attack the source of most of our problems, the politicians, you get garbage like this?
The only people that can send them back are the politicians that brought them here in the first place. And the poor do so much for them they are not going to touch them.
However, the pols will tell you if you don't like their policies YOU can move.
A situation where people who live in low cost of living areas of the United States and move to Queens where there are no jobs for them and a much higher cost of living is unsustainable.
Why does the burden shift from Pennsylvania and Georgia (or Mexico City and Islamabad) to Queens?
Because the politicians in Pennsylvania and Georgia would be voted out of office when it was known by their taxpayers that $4,000/month was being spent to shelter adults capable of working but not.
Queens politicians have no such fear.
NYC buses people out of state sometimes. How many compared to the number who get bused here?
Queens politicians have no such fear.
then lets put them in fear. we do not need one queens crap, we need ten queens crap.
we need at every chance in every conversation at every opportunity spread the word - there is not one tyranny that exists once the people stop believing in the system.
(yes, we live in a tyranny of one party rule that stamps on dissent and has hijacked our country to benefit a tiny minority)
write letters to the press, speak out at community boards,speak out at civic events. dog them at every turn.
Don't up zone the low density places where the taxpayers live or we won't have anyone paying taxes!
Anonymous said...
How does one get evicted from NYC public housing NYCHA/projects, the PJ's- you may very well ask?
Number One- the rent is adjusted to your income- if you are on welfare, that's who pays it. If you have kids under 18 you are guaranteed the rental payments from Jiggetts. Welfare pays the rent!! Number Two- if you are a drug dealer or a ho renting out your ass in public housing you will get evicted. If you finally get caught after years and years of drug dealing, your mother/father, grand parents who were drug dealing & they think they can keep it up for the next generation.
How do parents not pay rent? Why they use the money for drugs, partying, new clothes and know that under Jiggets The City/Welfare will pay the back rent. Maybe they go home to the DR, use the rent money for plane tickets and living large. Yes, under Jiggetts The City pays the back rent but after five or six times of it, even Welfare gets annoyed. That's how you get evicted from public housing.
It's a mentality of the state will take care of us or we will burn it down.
THANK YOU - I JUST ABOUT TO ASK HOW ONE GETS EVICTED, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FARRAGUT HOUSES AND YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION!
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