Sanitation policy is trash
From
CBS:
Department of Sanitation policy says that residents cannot place garbage on the curb until 5 p.m. the day before collection. Between Oct. 1 and April 1 it can be placed outside after 4 p.m.
Senator Tony Avella called the policy garbage, and that the Sanitation Department never went through the proper avenues to establish the regulation.
“It involves a public comment period. You have to advertise that you’re doing this and allow the public to comment on it. They never did that,” he said.
Avella has demanded that the city eliminate the policy or pass it through the proper channels. He has also asked the city to refund money to anybody who was ticketed under the policy.
21 comments:
5 p.m. the day before collection and people are complaining ?
That's total crap it should be at least 8PM and 9PM (Summer)
The policy is great and fair. Don't let the politicians screw it up.
Once again....
why do we need a state senator trying to enforce
city laws?
Eeez no heez job.
I guess it's because some of our city councilman aren't doing their jobs...or can even be found...like "doofy" Dan Halloran!
Danny boy is far to busy representing his developer friends...not his constituents.
Be sure that this nut job doesn't become a U.S. Congressman.
You will all live to regret that!
You folks are funny. Avella is not using Parkside. Avella worked on this issue when he was in the council, did you expect him to just drop it after he went to Albany? If he kept his mouth shut, you'd be bitching that he doesn't do anything.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't. No wonder most politicians don't do shit. The problem is YOU.
Is he suggesting that garbage be put out whenever a home owner wants, is that better, garbage at the curb everyday at all hours of the day. He's on a roll lately must have higher office on his mind
By me we all understood we could not put out garbage prior to 7pm - otherwise we are ticketed? So what gives, what is the actual hours?
Senator Tony Avella called the policy garbage..........Oh really Senator Avella, I call your comment garbage. I think 5pm the day before garbage pick-up is a reasonable time, although it should really even be latter than 5pm, like the one comment stated. I doubt that Senator Avella lives in a garbage/trash/litter area like Jamaica where I live. Where people throw trash/litter on the ground like it is nothing, where so much illegal garbage dumping goes on, where many homes and apartment buildings allow garbage cans to overflow and cans have no garbage lids, where property owners (be it vacant lots or not) do not clean up there property...........and you Senator Avella are going to say that the DOS should eliminate the policy of putting your trash out till 5pm, what about a policy to deal with all the garbarge/trash issues that I mentioned that have turned Jamaica and other areas into garbage dumps for some time and continues. I have been dealing with and fighting the Jamaica garbage/trash/litter problem for over a year with very little help from politicians, where are all of your voices on that issue. New York City is the dirtiest city in the country and parts of it are horrible (Jamaica, East New York, Bronx) and now you want to make this garbage/litter problem worse. Try working on some quality of life issues that really effect New Yorkers and let the DOS do their jobs.
It's sad when I have to explain something written in simple English to readers of my blog. Avella did not say people should be able to put garbage out whenever they please or that sanitation should not issue tickets. He said it was unfair that these regulations were put on the books without a public hearing or comment period and no notification of the public.
I guess you folks like getting screwed by city agencies.
more laws !!! = more tickets ,
this city is becoming a joke
Once again we have a misguided politician. This law 16-120(c) has been on the books for years and makes perfect sense. Perhaps someone should remind the State Senator that this is a matter for the city council and not the State Senate. And crappy maybe you can enlighten us on how sanitation screwed us on this. Perhaps you like the smell of crap on the streets.
Exactly. It's all about the City figuring our ways to fleece the higher end neighborhoods with ticket/fine generated income.
we need more politicians like Tony
NYC fines system violates constitutional due process: You cannot charge someone a fine and then a late charge when they have not been tried, and then fail to return it when they won the case. NYC continues to behave like it is not part of this country!
Once again we have a misguided politician. This law 16-120(c) has been on the books for years and makes perfect sense. Perhaps someone should remind the State Senator that this is a matter for the city council and not the State Senate. And crappy maybe you can enlighten us on how sanitation screwed us on this. Perhaps you like the smell of crap on the streets.
Once again, this has nothing to do with this being a bad law. It has to do with following the proper protocol for putting new regulations in place. It is unfair to fine someone for something that never had a public hearing and never was formally introduced to the public as a new regulation. The City Council did not pass this, therefore it is not a law. It is a regulation which is subject to public departmental hearings. Maybe you like getting fined for things the government never informed you about, but the vast majority of people don't.
Title 16 of the NYC Administrative Code are laws not rules. And all changes must be approved by the city council. Maybe Tony was absent that day.
Better educate yourself.
Garbage Pick-Up Times Were Too Quietly Changed, Says Avella
This rule was never passed by the city council, only included in a report by the sanitation committee. This has been reported on since January of this year.
Perhaps you need to be educated, title 16 of the nyc ad min code is law and covers sanitation. This law could not have been ratified without the city council.
Admin code 16-120c says nothing about the times that waste can be put curbside for collection, daylight savings time changes or fines imposed. That is why its not valid.
16-120c
c. Incinerator, residue, ashes, refuse and liquid waste shall be
stored in the building or dwelling or at the rear of the building or
dwelling as may be required by the department of health and mental
hygiene or the department of housing preservation and development until
time for removal and kept in tightly covered metal receptacles or
containers made of other materials of a type and grade acceptable to the
department, department of health and mental hygiene, and the department
of housing preservation and development. After the contents have been
removed by the department or other collection agency any receptacles
remaining shall be removed from the front of the building or dwelling
before 9:00 p.m. on the day of collection, or if such collection occurs
after 4:00 p.m., then before 9:00 a.m. on the day following collection.
The receptacles shall at all times be kept covered or closed and kept in
a manner satisfactory to the department, the department of health and
mental hygiene, and in the case of residential premises, the department
of housing preservation and development. No receptacles, refuse,
incinerator residue or ashes, or liquid waste shall be kept so as to
create a nuisance. Yard sweepings, hedge cuttings, grass, leaves, earth,
stone or bricks shall not be mixed with household wastes.
Thank you Queens Crapper. You are one of the few that actually read the section. Nothing stops the uninformed from offering baseless opinions.
tell the d.o.s. to place the empty cans where they picked them up at...on the sidewalk.
the recycle cans are expensive. they leave them behind cars on the street and they are crushed.
what does the law say ?
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