With so much damage from twin tornados, some areas in the the city have yet to be cleaned up. Mayor Bloomberg is pleading for patience -- and hoping he doesn't have an historic "Queens Problem." Tim Minton reports.
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The City and utilities are doing a great job. We had a major storm that is not the norm for our area. Congrats to Con Ed Verizon and Time Warner, Parks and Sanitation to. Patience is the key.
Watch the video. Patience in this situation should last a few days, tops. It's been a week already. This was not a city-wide disaster, it only affected a few neighborhoods. I am scared to think how long it would take to return to normal if we had a true city-wide disaster such as a hurricane or earthquake. Bloomberg dropped the ball on this one, no surprise there. If that block (Utopia Pkwy) were in the upper east side, it would have been cleaned up in a couple of days. There is no excuse for those people to go a full week without basic services and use of their vehicles.
None of us control the weather, but his agencies control the cleanup and on a lot of blocks they aren't there. With all the tree damage, I wonder how many of those which lost branches or which were toppled were ones that had previously been reported to the city for needed pruning and/or removal.
Has Bloomberg even visited the devastated areas in Queens? If not, what kind of Mayor is that who doesn't even have the empathy or even the vision too see the value of being there, in person, as the leader of this city. Sounds like Bush with Katrina and Obama with BP oil spill ... out of touch.
since everyone in queens, instead of expecting better things or complaining about it, reelect the same people over and over again - and if there is a problem either do the work themselves or 'hope' or 'wish' that it goes away.
So this is what you get - sh*t rubbed in your faces.
I'm still waiting to hear what the solutions of those who say this is inexcusable would have been. Obviously it's not just the city that can't clean up the trees. Time Warner hasn't gotten some services restored, nor has Verizon or Con Ed. Where is the ire against them? Go shit somewhere else, asshats. Your same old complaints about how the city can't do anything right are tiring.
It's classic case of the private sector vs the public sector.
If I get pissed off enough I can simply cancel my verizon and Time Warner service. Freedom of choice.
One phone call and they are both out of my life forever. I don't have any ire against them because as a consumer I'm in complete control of that relationship.
That can't be said for Con Ed and obviously city services.
So maybe you can now understand why I get annoyed when I get crappy service from an agency that could give a damn about providing quality service to its "customers".
It can be understood why Con Ed, Time Warner, and Verizon are taking a long time to fix services on this block. There is a giant mess of trees to work around! And who is responsible for removing these downed trees? Yes, the city. And obviously it is not a priority. "Your same old complaints about how the city can't do anything right are tiring." That's not true. As already stated, if this happened in the Upper East side, or one of the other upscale Manhattan neighborhoods, the city would have gotten it right. This mess would have been cleaned up in no time.
This section of Utopia Pkwy is a busy through street. There is no excuse for it to take a full week to make it passable and clear the homeowners driveways.
"The clean up could take weeks, explained Mayor Bloomberg. These tornadoes did more damage, he said, than any city storm since Hurricane Gloria in 1985. " "Right now, about 350 city personnel from the NYPD, FDNY, Parks and Sanitation departments are all involved in removing the remnants of the storm." 350 total from 3 agencies?? No wonder he expects it to take a long time. Here's the first suggestion: dedicate an adequate number of personnel. 350 is not cutting it.
Time Warner hasn't gotten some services restored, nor has Verizon or Con Ed. Where is the ire against them? ----
cause it aint western Queens where a wet behind the ears kid that is part of the Albany problem actually is believed to understand electric generation better than a company that has done it a 100 years.
Again,the city will send hundreds of cops on overtime to the West indian savage parade and to the US Tennis center,but nothing for the tax paying middle class.The nypd could have had all ESU cops working 12 hr shiftsThey would have cut up the trees and then parks and DOT could have carted it to local parks and given it away as firewood.
When the snows come each year Sanitation registers people willing to work removing snow to supplement their forces. There's a lot of unemployed folks right now. Where's Bloomies call for people willing to earn a few days pay clearing debris? Bet it would be a long line of people who would sign up and do it.
"When the snows come each year Sanitation registers people willing to work removing snow to supplement their forces."
If the city has their way,sanitation will NOT be handling snow removal in the future. Been told they are trying to take it away from them and give it to other agencies like DOT and Parks.
Last Saturday I went to Parker Hardware, bought a saw, and went to work on a tree that had fallen in my neighborhood. A special thanks to all the people who stopped to take pictures and kept on walking.
STILL waiting for a better solution than, "The city isn't doing enough."
Here's a suggestion. Prioritize clean up starting with 1) clearing large branches that are suspended in the air, held up by power lines or other tree branches. (This is an immediate hazard, and still seeing these condition over a week after the tornado is completely unacceptable) 2) clearing streets so traffic can pass 3) clearing trees that are sitting on houses and cars. (it has been over a week and I still see houses and cars weighted under CITY trees)These people cannot fix their houses or have their cars repaired while they are still under trees. 4) after the above 3 steps have been addressed, THEN continue with full cleanups. This whole effort requires MORE MANPOWER, MORE EQUIPMENT, and BETTER ORGANIZATION. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Additional equipment can be rented, this was not a region wide disaster. Like I said, to see large branches suspended in the air so long after the storm is disgraceful and dangerous.
Last Saturday I went to Parker Hardware, bought a saw, and went to work on a tree that had fallen in my neighborhood. Most of us are not lumberjacks. And if you somehow accidentally cause property damage in the process, YOU will be liable. And if you injure yourself in the process, you will be on your own to deal with the consequences.
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28 comments:
The City and utilities are doing a great job. We had a major storm that is not the norm for our area. Congrats to Con Ed Verizon and Time Warner, Parks and Sanitation to. Patience is the key.
Watch the video. Patience in this situation should last a few days, tops. It's been a week already. This was not a city-wide disaster, it only affected a few neighborhoods. I am scared to think how long it would take to return to normal if we had a true city-wide disaster such as a hurricane or earthquake. Bloomberg dropped the ball on this one, no surprise there. If that block (Utopia Pkwy) were in the upper east side, it would have been cleaned up in a couple of days. There is no excuse for those people to go a full week without basic services and use of their vehicles.
None of us control the weather, but his agencies control the cleanup and on a lot of blocks they aren't there. With all the tree damage, I wonder how many of those which lost branches or which were toppled were ones that had previously been reported to the city for needed pruning and/or removal.
Has Bloomberg even visited the devastated areas in Queens? If not, what kind of Mayor is that who doesn't even have the empathy or even the vision too see the value of being there, in person, as the leader of this city.
Sounds like Bush with Katrina and Obama with BP oil spill ... out of touch.
Hey Anonymous #1....
You're a pinhead.
Just curious, what do you think is a reasonable amout of time to keep asking people to be patient?
A week without power and you have the nerve to say "Great Job" to Con Ed...are you freakin' kidding me?!?
No lights, spoiled food, no hot water...and you have the balls to say "Patience is the key".
Again, "We" didn't have a mjor storm. The storm was very isolated and didn't effect 99% of the city with the exception of some heavy rain.
Get some perspective.
since everyone in queens, instead of expecting better things or complaining about it, reelect the same people over and over again - and if there is a problem either do the work themselves or 'hope' or 'wish' that it goes away.
So this is what you get - sh*t rubbed in your faces.
I'm with poster #1.
I'm still waiting to hear what the solutions of those who say this is inexcusable would have been. Obviously it's not just the city that can't clean up the trees. Time Warner hasn't gotten some services restored, nor has Verizon or Con Ed. Where is the ire against them? Go shit somewhere else, asshats. Your same old complaints about how the city can't do anything right are tiring.
"Obviously it's not just the city that can't clean up the trees."
Obviously it is, because it's their trees and their responsibility, no matter how often they try to pawn it off on homeowners.
It's classic case of the private sector vs the public sector.
If I get pissed off enough I can simply cancel my verizon and Time Warner service. Freedom of choice.
One phone call and they are both out of my life forever. I don't have any ire against them because as a consumer I'm in complete control of that relationship.
That can't be said for Con Ed and obviously city services.
So maybe you can now understand why I get annoyed when I get crappy service from an agency that could give a damn about providing quality service to its "customers".
It can be understood why Con Ed, Time Warner, and Verizon are taking a long time to fix services on this block. There is a giant mess of trees to work around! And who is responsible for removing these downed trees? Yes, the city. And obviously it is not a priority.
"Your same old complaints about how the city can't do anything right are tiring."
That's not true. As already stated, if this happened in the Upper East side, or one of the other upscale Manhattan neighborhoods, the city would have gotten it right. This mess would have been cleaned up in no time.
This section of Utopia Pkwy is a busy through street. There is no excuse for it to take a full week to make it passable and clear the homeowners driveways.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39278298/ns/local_news-new_york_ny/
"The clean up could take weeks, explained Mayor Bloomberg. These tornadoes did more damage, he said, than any city storm since Hurricane Gloria in 1985. "
"Right now, about 350 city personnel from the NYPD, FDNY, Parks and Sanitation departments are all involved in removing the remnants of the storm."
350 total from 3 agencies?? No wonder he expects it to take a long time.
Here's the first suggestion: dedicate an adequate number of personnel. 350 is not cutting it.
*350 from 4 agencies
At least it didn't snow...yet!
Time Warner hasn't gotten some services restored, nor has Verizon or Con Ed. Where is the ire against them?
----
cause it aint western Queens where a wet behind the ears kid that is part of the Albany problem actually is believed to understand electric generation better than a company that has done it a 100 years.
thank God.
Lindsay couldn't handle snow, Bloomberg can't handle trees.
STILL waiting for a better solution than, "The city isn't doing enough."
Nice try, but it's not our job to come up with solutions to the problem. That's what the electeds and their consultants get paid big bucks to do.
Again,the city will send hundreds of cops on overtime to the West indian savage parade and to the US Tennis center,but nothing for the tax paying middle class.The nypd could have had all ESU cops working 12 hr shiftsThey would have cut up the trees and then parks and DOT could have carted it to local parks and given it away as firewood.
When the snows come each year Sanitation registers people willing to work removing snow to supplement their forces. There's a lot of unemployed folks right now. Where's Bloomies call for people willing to earn a few days pay clearing debris? Bet it would be a long line of people who would sign up and do it.
"When the snows come each year Sanitation registers people willing to work removing snow to supplement their forces."
If the city has their way,sanitation will NOT be handling snow removal in the future. Been told they are trying to take it away from them and give it to other agencies like DOT and Parks.
Last Saturday I went to Parker Hardware, bought a saw, and went to work on a tree that had fallen in my neighborhood. A special thanks to all the people who stopped to take pictures and kept on walking.
A special thanks to all the people who stopped to take pictures and kept on walking.
Should they have stopped and ripped the tree apart with their bare hands? Did you ask for help?
Welcome to Queens. The forgotten borough.
"Lindsay couldn't handle snow, Bloomberg can't handle trees"
or power, or overdevelopment, or traffic, or illegal aliens, or middle class housing, or jobs, or pollution, or flooding, or noise, or...
STILL waiting for a better solution than, "The city isn't doing enough."
Here's a suggestion. Prioritize clean up starting with
1) clearing large branches that are suspended in the air, held up by power lines or other tree branches. (This is an immediate hazard, and still seeing these condition over a week after the tornado is completely unacceptable)
2) clearing streets so traffic can pass
3) clearing trees that are sitting on houses and cars. (it has been over a week and I still see houses and cars weighted under CITY trees)These people cannot fix their houses or have their cars repaired while they are still under trees.
4) after the above 3 steps have been addressed, THEN continue with full cleanups.
This whole effort requires MORE MANPOWER, MORE EQUIPMENT, and BETTER ORGANIZATION. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Additional equipment can be rented, this was not a region wide disaster.
Like I said, to see large branches suspended in the air so long after the storm is disgraceful and dangerous.
Last Saturday I went to Parker Hardware, bought a saw, and went to work on a tree that had fallen in my neighborhood.
Most of us are not lumberjacks.
And if you somehow accidentally cause property damage in the process, YOU will be liable. And if you injure yourself in the process, you will be on your own to deal with the consequences.
A quick bit of information from Parks...
In a standard year, about 2,500 tons of trees and branches are picked up and mulched.
In the last two weeks, over 1,500 tons of trees and branches have been picked up and mulched with a great deal more to be done.
They've done an amazing job so far and are still working to complete the work. Cut them a break for once.
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