From Capital:
"We desperately need more immigrants in this country if we're going to work our way out of this recession," Bloomberg said. "Those that say immigrants hurt the economy just don't understand. I had my physical last week and the doctors—one came from Nigeria, one came from Senegal, one came from Singapore, one came from, I think, Bangladesh." (He did not elaborate on why there were four.)
"We have to do something about immigration. And yes, we should be in control of our own borders, yes, the law should be obeyed," Bloomberg said. "But the bottom line is all of us were part of the 12 million undocumented here, getting them here, we all chose to pass a law and then deliberately not enforce it, because that's the politically correct thing to do."
He countered the points usually used by opponents of immigration.
"In New York City we have some maybe 500,000 undocumented. Most of them pay taxes," he said. "They have a low crime rate because they don't want to go near the I.N.S. They don't use the schools because they tend not to bring their families."
He added, "They don't use our hospitals very much because most people use three-quarters of their medical care in the last three years of their life, and these tend to be young people."
God help us. He really believes this? How about national security?
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Rich people need domestics to take care of their children, households and gardens. They need people to be their slaves and pay them next to nothing. That's why Bloomberg wants to keep the illegals. Cheap labor. I thought slavery was abolished. Illegals send their money home to their countries. They don't contribute to our economy.
Someone should tell him that we are in a recession and that AMERICANS are out of work and need jobs. He should close his sanctuary city and stop perpetuating illegalities. This guy is so out of touch with the average joe. I really question his sanity.
i second your comment on bloomberg's sanity.
his lifelong liberalism equals obama's quest to quickly begin a campaign to register undocumented democrats
for the 2012 election. they know that their policies have back fired and the american electorate will kick the progressives out of government soon.
Illegals DO NOT pay state or federal income tax.
"In New York City we have some maybe 500,000 undocumented. Most of them pay taxes," he said. "They have a low crime rate because they don't want to go near the I.N.S. They don't use the schools because they tend not to bring their families."
He added, "They don't use our hospitals very much
Mayor Bloomberg and City Council are illegally in office beyond the term limits - they have hijacked our rights and now doing so by allowing and lobbying for illegals to remain here. Bloomberg is so out of touch that illegals pay taxes (to whom Mexico) don't use our hospitals (what hospitals they closed down in Queens because of all the illegals using services for free). Sure they provide valuable services such as cheap prostitutes and gardeners but that is only for the rich folks who enjoy a diverse moment with illegal boys and girls willing to share their dark secrets for 20$.
As a resident of Bermuda, he can buy the country and become Emperor and tax all of his natives and have them perform circus tricks to his imagination!
"PAY TAXES"...What is meant by that? Is it that they are taxed when they purchase something in the city, because if that's it then please tell How and Where do I sign up?
"But the bottom line is all of us were part of the 12 million undocumented here, getting them here, we all chose to pass a law and then deliberately not enforce it, because that's the politically correct thing to do."
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No sir, politicians are solely responsible. Either something is correct or it's not. There's no logic with something being politically correct. That's called realpolitiks. A Machiavellian principle.
what a dumb ass! the reason this city/state is a mess is because the illegals don't pay income taxes.. let's focus on the AMERICANS at the unemployment lines and the hell with legalizing people who broke the laws to get here. why hasn't anyone thrown him and his staff out yet? the blind leading the blind.
IMPEACH BLOOMTURD NOW!!!!!!
Illegal don't pay taxes. They are all earning cold cash.
Some earned and saved so much, that they send the money back home and also use loop holes to buy real estate and are wealthier than the average Americans who have college degrees, yet on paper they are seem poor because of 'low income'.
Therefore, they can apply for medicare and other welfare and government assist programs and get these stuff for free while others have to pay for $20 copay and stuff. Meanwhile, they have assets in the other country and living fine here. Another example of the rich gets richer.
Ever noticed that certain restaurants and stores say CASH ONLY... That should ring a bell.
Mayor Bloomberg, Are you on some type of medication? Where do you get that ilegals don't bring their families? don't use our schools,etc.? please wake up! The problem is not getting here legaly,It is easier for people who can contribute to this country to get visas.The problem is the ILEGAL INMIGRATION and we ,us, YOU as Mayor have to try to stop ,Not endorse.
Some earned and saved so much, that they send the money back home and also use loop holes to buy real estate and are wealthier than the average Americans
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I've been to DR, ElSal and a few other places. Sometimes along the road, you see giant modern homes almongst the farms and hills.
My first thought was drug money, but i was corrected by our guide. Most of them are empty. Their owners are in Florida, NY, etc and own bodegas and grocery stores. They go up there for 15-20 years, and send part of every check home. They have someone here that uses that money and watches over the construction of the house. Once its built, they leave the US and come home to retire in luxury.
In other words, the money LEAVES THE SYSTEM, as the rest of us spend our savings here during retirement, putting it back into circulation.
Someone needs to send this guy back to the anti-logic universe from which he sprang because he has no business whatsoever being in this universe. I haven't read such blatantly overt nonsense from a politician in a long time-and given the types of politicians we've had at all levels of government in the last 20 years that's quite a statement.
My doctor is from India. He came to this country by wading knee-deep across the Rio Grande. He was carted to Queens in a poultry truck. He got his medical education by picking up beer cans in the streets and by gardening . . . not!
I haven't read such blatantly overt nonsense from a politician in a long time-and given the types of politicians we've had at all levels of government in the last 20 years that's quite a statement.
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He's a multi-billionaire. He doesn't feel OUR pain and he doesn't give a shit! And the soap opera continues. Will New Yorkers wake up in time before total decimation? Stay tuned...
Michelle Malkin wrote a pertinent article today on this subject. There're some relevant thoughts I'd like to post.
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George Washington, in a letter to John Adams, stated that immigrants should be absorbed into American life so that “by an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, laws: in a word soon become one people.”
In a 1790 speech to Congress on the naturalization of immigrants, James Madison stated that America should welcome the immigrant who could assimilate, but exclude the immigrant who could not readily “incorporate himself into our society.”
Alexander Hamilton wrote in 1802: “The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education and family.”
Hamilton further warned that “The United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass; by promoting in different classes different predilections in favor of particular foreign nations, and antipathies against others, it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. It has been often likely to compromise the interests of our own country in favor of another. The permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation, but their force may be actually employed in assisting an invader.”
The survival of the American republic, Hamilton maintained, depends upon “the preservation of a national spirit and a national character.” “To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens the moment they put foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.”
Hamilton was an immigrant, too.
Yeah, maybe he really did have an allegiance issue, eh?
Salient point, Missing Foundation.
actually, what the mayor is advocating is "taxation without representation".
Heartened by the informed comments on this post, but its too late- give them amnesty. let em pay taxes finally- see how much it eats into their pay. two friends(of south american descent, and PISSED OFF) told me about two people making an astonishing 700 and 900 a week; most of which does in fact get funneled back home (do research on westerrn union, they are doing gangbusters in a down economy). both friends work for the gubmint; they pay their taxes,they resent these clowns. hell they couldnt afford a home in central america bc of their existing tax burden! people unfortunately think "exploited workers" make less than min wage, like $3 an hr, but most make what a citizen would make b/c the employers dont have to deal with paperwork (no fica, etc). give em blanket anmesty- dont u know this will open up 12 mill more people (if gubt says 12 mil illegal, its 24 mil) to get credit cards? to get car loans? americans are tapped out, so i say its our civic duty to help out those who matter most (banks and illegals). let them experience what its like to be an american these days. hint: dont fall behind on those CC payments!!- missing foundation- u are an idiot.
holy crap, this fucking troll's head is in te clouds. we have not one mayor that would enforce laws against businesses that hire illegals. I hate bloomshit and all you ignorant asses that voted for him
In other words, the money LEAVES THE SYSTEM, as the rest of us spend our savings here during retirement, putting it back into circulation.
That's a good point you bring up. I'm always amazed at all the lefties who rail against Wal Mart/Home Depot, saying that they destroy local businesses, and they send their profits back to corporate headquarters in Arkansas or wherever.
Yet these same lefties are absolutely IN LOVE with illegal immigrants!
Why is it OK for illegals to send their earnings OUTSIDE THE US, yet Wal Mart can't send it's profits back to Arkansas, which is still part of the U.S.?
Maybe some of the resident lefties/"fellow travelers" on this blog can explain your "logic"?
Hamilton was an immigrant, too.
And a bastard as well.
HEY MORON, THEY DON'T USE THE SCHOOLS? WHY NOT START ASKING FOR REAL DOCUMENTATION TO SEE IF THAT IGNORANT COMMENT HOLDS WATER.
HEY MORON, THEY DON'T USE THE HOSPITALS? WANT TO START ASKING FOR IMMIGRATION STATUS?
WOW I REALY BELIEVED YOU WERE AN INTELLIGENT MAN, WITH ALL YOUR BILLIONS AND ALL, I GUESS YOU ARE JUST A LUCKY MORON, KIND OF LIKE THE MOVIE "JERK", I GUESS. DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE YOUR OWN STUPIDIY? HOW MANY PUBLIC SCHOOL KIDS CAN NOT GO ON TO COLLEGE BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION STATUS? ABSURD..
deke u might wanna investigate the whole "wallmart sends their profits back to arkansas" thing- most "US" corps are no longer; they are incorp. in places like the caymans. also- if they dont rep atriate profits, theres no tax hit. kinda makes u wonder about gm truly being b/k. nice to know our tax $$ went to help their opps abroad, such as brazil (look it up folks).
Apparently Hamilton didn't have a very good shot either. *snorts*
"He's a multi-billionaire. He doesn't feel OUR pain and he doesn't give a shit! And the soap opera continues. Will New Yorkers wake up in time before total decimation? Stay tuned..."
I'd like to add to this...He doesn't have to live with or near the illegals. Let him live in woodside, jackson heights, or corona and lets see if he signs the same tune.
1. It would be interesting to measure the economic impact of illegal immigration if there was a political will to require identification when schools, hospitals, and other government services were used and reporting about them was honest.
2. If I could legally pay a tax rate equal to the effective tax rate paid by illegal immigrants, I would. Where do I sign up?
So what is the difference between Jose and Maria sending money back to their village and not spending it on their community, and an offshore tax haven diverting money away from the US Treas?
Hey Bloomshit they dont use our schools? So why the great demand in district 24. They dont use our hospitals so why are the always crowed and lets not forget how many had to closed down. You need to stop talking we're really getting tired of your stupidity
Bloomturd lost his mind a long time ago:( 1) They are Illegals NOT Immigrants!!! 2) Our schools are OVER CROWDED and are not allowed to ask if a student is LEGAL, I asked the principal at my childs school and was told THEY CANNOT ASK:( And every word the 1st Anonymous wrote is dead on!!!! SECURE OUR BORDERS BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!! Go take a look at a house in Flushing 42-17 159 street it's a single family house with about a hundred Illegals living there:(It's foul and disgusting!!!!
We need to annihilate this liberal-progressive movement come NOV. Then again come 2012. We cannot afford to have liberals running the country any more. We especially need conservatives in the north east part of the country. Just look at the new GOP governor of NJ. That state is tired of democrats. Bloomberg has no conscious of the average American and really does not care. He flip flops political parties from democrat-republican-independent.
i'm having a hard time getting parking
Bloomberg is good man peoples forget this country belonged to mexico finally bloomberg is letting us take what those English people steal from us We getting to vote soon
bloomberg is smart man he know will be no more white peoples votes in 15 years.
i'm having a hard time getting parking
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I'll validate you...for a price!
I'm looking forward to November.....
Maspeth Mom says...
I watched part of the interview on TV - Nothing Bllomberg said about immigration made sense. Just wacky nonsense about their low crime rate and they dont use the hospitals becasue they are young and healthy. He better wake up soon or fire the knuckleheads that are feeding him this nonsense. He could back one thing he said with a fact. He almost believes his own lies. How illegals are going to help US citizens and the USA will become a better place because of them is just a toxic load of nonsense.
Maspeth Mom says...
If illegals dont use the hospitals - then why did St. Johns Hospital, Mary Immaculate and St. Vincents closse.
He also said employers need to have a way to prove that a potential employess is legal. The USA already has that form - ITs called an I-9 federal form -every employer is required by the federal government to have this form completedby the employee - It requests you show either a copy of your passport, green card or 2 types of ID from the 2nd column- drivers license, military card etc. He has not clue what he is talking about. Bloomberg says " WE cant deport all the illegals "
Oh yea WHY not? - That would create alot of jobs and reduce the unemloyment in the USA for a long time to come.
Billionaire Bloomie is using his illegal third term to promote his own agenda over the needs of the people of New York City. C'mon, folks. Wake up and get on the same page. Every elected official is using your tax money the same way. Why else would city services be so drastically reduced? Is it true that the city spent more than $369 million so far on the Willets Point land grab and there may NEVER be a shovel in the ground to show anything for that expenditure?
http://queenscrap.blogspot.com/2010/05/lots-of-money-to-be-spent-for-land-we.html
You can learn a lot by reading the Crapper!
No shovel = good thing.
The disappearing $369 million = not so much!
Quite honestly, among the doctors I've seen in my life, the best ones were educated in AMERICA by AMERICAN schools such as Cornell.
You can complain all you want, but remember, the opportunity to get rid of this little dictator came and people voted him in again. He does not care about New Yorkers. He was desperate to get a third term because he wanted to push his own agenda. He succeeded. He wants a foreign, uneducated, work for pennies population and he wants them to become citizens (amnesty) so they will vote him in for a fourth term. He wants them poor enough to live in overcrowded queens, brooklyn or the bronx -- Not Manhattan. He doesn't know what it's like to live on a fixed income or limited budget. He only cares that there is enough domestic help to clean houses, offices, tend to gardens, work in kitchens, busyboys, dishwashers etc. Doesn't care and doesn't want illegals to be educated because then they would have to be paid more. It's always about the money with him. He's not human, nor does he care about humans. We had a chance to vote him out when it was illegal for him to run in the first place. He paid off the right people and was voted in again. You get the government you deserve. Happy Now? You got him!
There would be NO immigration problem in the first place if it wasn't for Big Government Interventionism and Socialism/Progressivism that deteriorated the Free Market in the late 1800's and early 1900's...
If there were No entitlements and Free-bee's to be gotten, only those that wanted to work and better their lives would come here. From 1900-1925 over 1/4 of those immigrants that came here looking to start a new life repatriated back to their original country because there were No jobs to be found (or create) or Government programs here to leech off.
There was an open immigration policy in this country until the Chinese exclusion acts brought on a long succession of Federal government interventionism. Further government beaurocrats came along and decided to set up a quota system and close the open Immigration and systematic screening processes of Ellis Island on the East Coast & Angel Island on the West Coast. Along with the new found Quotas came the Full blown socialism brought on slowly by the ever expanding 16th Amendment which legalized theft from the productive to the unproductive.
In a properly moral society anyone should be allowed to come here and "work here" if someone is freely willing to hire them. Freedom for workers and Freedom for employers...Who the hell are you to tell me as a free man who I can chose to voluntarily do business with??
That doesn't mean everyone that comes here automatically should become citizens or drop a child and they automatically become a citizen, they justly would need to live by our laws and assimilate to our country as the original immigrants did.
END the WELFARE STATE!! Give a 5 to 10 year period to wean people off the poison of dependency! END ALL GOVERNMENT ENTITLEMENTS!! SO WE CAN RE-OPEN IMMIGRATION!! and unleash the individual productive genius of all free men once again! SEAL the Boarder SHUT like a drum! Open the Immigrations Port Stations once again to give a legal front door of entry and screen the people for terrorist ties and infectious diseases. Put a shoot to kill zone on the boarder and protect the individual's right to bear arms so they can properly fend off any invaders that would violate the sanctity of their private property by crossing illegally! Force immigrants to assimilate by making English the only language! Make becoming a citizen much harder so those newcomers have to prove their worth over time...Only then would they acquire the right to vote!
We can live morally once again only when people decide to look at the fundamentals of our problems and bring liberty and objective rule of law back to our shores...
AMEN TO THAT! Very well said. If only the politicians would adhere to this advice. What would happen to them? Who would line their pockets?
John from Conn always brings a wide smile to my face when he posts.
And no wonder he's so emphatic about 16th Amendment. Connecticut never ratified it! Boo-ya!
You people are killing me.
Illegals are paying taxes via ININ and bogus SSN's. They pay social security tax and medicare tax AND since they are illegal/undocumented they cannot legally benefit from these programs. That leaves open using the programs by fraudulent means. Probably more "patriotic" Americans doing that than illegals.
They are using the programs by fraudulent means. They are stealing people's identities to do it. I guess you're ok with this?
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