Thursday, May 20, 2010
Video supports snowball throwers
From the Daily News:
New video of the controversial Bronx snowball arrest appears to show an off-duty cop quickly drawing his gun just seconds after being hit by a single snowball.
The footage seems to contradict Officer Adonis Ramirez's insistence that he was pelted "on the back by multiple snowballs" before turning his weapon on a group of friends.
The so-called "Snowball Four" made headlines after February's blizzard when they were charged with criminal possession of a weapon - snowballs.
Ramirez's fellow cops reported that he was taunted in Spanish and chased down the street "in a threatening manner," police sources said at the time.
Instead, Ramirez is seen walking out of 1422 Nelson Ave. when he is hit by one of the snowball, the friends admit they were tossing at each other. They denied they targeted the officer.
In the video, Ramirez, a seven-year NYPD veteran, pulls his gun 15 seconds after the snowball is thrown and orders the young men to the ground.
The group said he never said he was an officer.
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My apologies for calling these kids thugs in the past posts.
This cop nees to be off our street and away from our kids.
They were clearly throwing it at the cop (a pedestrian to their eyes). One of the guys quickly darted behind the fence after throwing the snowball. How could they have been tossing snowballs at themselves when all of them were within an arms reach of each other.
And it looks like he did identify himself as a cop because you can see the group that moves in back off when he pulls his gun and then quickly proceed into the building.
Ramirez's fellow cops reported that he was taunted in Spanish and chased down the street "in a threatening manner," police sources said at the time.
This clearly did not happen. They lied in an official report.
From ABC:
Ramirez said in the criminal complaint that the teens threatened to jump him.
"He said he was chased down the block, not true, he said he was hit by multiple snowballs, not true. The officer's story is a complete fabrication and the video doesn't lie," attorney Neil Wollenstein said.
Two surveillance cameras on the outside of a nearby building caught the whole confrontation on tape.
But it took almost three months for investigators to turn it over to the accused young men and their lawyer.
I wonder why that is. This cop needs to be arrested and thrown in jail just like what he did to these kids. We don't need these types in the NYPD.
These are the types of asshole cops that cost this city millions in settlements.
Didn't you know that "in a threatening manner" means that they were not meekly looking at the ground and prostrating themselves?
what is scary is how these cops have NO problems bearing false witnesses on people. I wonder how many innocent lives NYPD has ruined.
a cam is NYPD's worst enemy which is why if the city installs more camera then it shouldn't be NYPD that monitors them but an independent agency.
The cop sounds more like a cowboy...pull out the gun and shoot anything that moves
Agree with crapper, this guy is a dirty cop. Unfortunately you and I will be paying the legal settlement that these kids will eventually get. He will be reassigned to a desk job and collect full benefits when he retires. We will of course foot the bill for that as well.
Time and time again, when the video or audio recording appears, it turns out that the cop was lying. The cops themselves should realize that the accumulated effect of the public seeing video after video which contradicts the account the cop gave is going to hurt the overall credibility of all cops in the long run. It's bigger than one incident.
The NYPD is corrupt. They are probably thugs that couldn't get into college. Now we give these uneducated thugs guns to parole the streets. Some NYPDs are the biggest criminals in this city.
Cop gave me a ticket for "disorderly conduct" once. I repealed the ticket and the cop lied under oath. Judge made a mockery of the court system as well. May God avenge the pain and heartache that the NYPD has caused amoung the innocent of this city.
These cops think they are above the law. I hope these young men not only sue the city but the dirty cop himself.
I hope they sue just the cop and not the city. Does the fact that he was off-duty make a difference in culpability?
They need to sue the city for the bullshit on the police report
The cop is a hot-head and poppa has to work over the assess of his boys. Teens should never start with adults, period.
The cop is a hot-head and poppa has to work over the assess of his boys. Teens should never start with adults, period.
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I think their poppa should work over the cops ass.
When is it okay to make a mistake. Those kids are not adults. Unlike that cop who pulled a gun on them. Falsified a report and arrested them. If it were my kid, I'd beat that shit out of that cops ass.
This is what happens when you lower the standards for minorities to allow more of them on the job.
The NYPD is corrupt. They are probably thugs that couldn't get into college. Now we give these uneducated thugs guns to parole the streets. Some NYPDs are the biggest criminals in this city.
Cops need college to get on the job, dumbass.
"To drum up interest, Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik waived the 60 college-credit requirement for school safety and traffic agents to boost the number of test takers for the written exam in October. He also lowered the age for applicants from 22 to 21 and extended the filing deadline twice.
Some criminal justice experts warned that the NYPD might be lowering standards to meet its recruiting demands." - Daily News, 2001
There was a wide window when you didn't need college.
Here's one from the NY Times in 2000:
"Under the changes, which Police Commissioner Bernard B. Kerik said would take effect immediately, the department will accept 21-year-old applicants. For the last five years, the department set 22 as the minimum age, in the belief that officers younger than that were more likely to become disciplinary problems during their careers.
Mr. Kerik also said the department would waive a requirement that recruits have 60 college credits for two more categories of applicants. The department already waives the requirement for those with two or more years of honorable military service."
Until fellow officers realize that the few idiots among them make them all look like liars and they stand up and say "not on my watch" nothing is going to change. Cameras can't be everywhere and when they cover for each other, no one will trust them
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