former Jamaica H.S. graduates: Michael Savage,wor/am radio talk show host. Alan Seiden,All-American basketball star,his team won the n.y.c. championship in 1954. my teammate at St.John"s U.(REDMEN),under Joe Lapchick. won the N.I.T. & Holiday Festival championship.( R.I.P.)
i read that the school will be converted into smaller schools in the same building ? if the so-called pupils will not study ,no one can force success into their life.
What Klein & Bloomberg do has nothing to do with the kids. They don't care about them. All they care about is data(as you saw in the video).
The real reasons to shut down schools is much more sinister. Shutting down schools eliminates hundreds of veteran teachers, make the data(scores and graduation rates) in the smaller schools more easily manipulated and pave the way for charter schools.
I will be shocked if the PEP votes in JHS's favor.
i read that the school will be converted into smaller schools in the same building ?
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Thats what happens in many cases. The new trend in thinking is "big schools are bad"
Yes, but they will cost more now. Instead of one set of administrators, you now need multiple sets. More paperwork to be done, more hassle, more headache, and solves ZERO problems.
They are doing this just to make it look like arent sitting around not doing anything. They dont have any real ideas.
"Going" to school affords a student interaction with PEOPLE as opposed to learning all you can learn on a computer, which is certainly possible, but totally anti-social. There's already too many computer geeks(with no personality I might add) in this world. Children need to interact with others so they can productively work with others when they join the workforce.
primadonna said... "Going" to school affords a student interaction with PEOPLE as opposed to learning all you can learn on a computer, which is certainly possible, but totally anti-social." ==============================
I once had this view about children and social skills development, but using a home schooled example. I changed my mind after working with a 12 year old home schooled child. We worked with his father and 4 other adults preparing for an important showcase (music) for the president of Sony Records. It was a demanding and stressful work environment that dealt with the sensitivities of "artists". From a social point of view, a scenario such as this requires a high order understanding in human interaction for it to work. The kid held better composure than most of the adults! And he was the easiest person in the group to work with, including his father. A testament to his well rounded social skills. His older brother was also homed schooled and showed similar social skills. Those experiences forever changed my mind about social development and home schooling.
Developing social skills shouldn't rest on the school system. It rests on parenting.
Are you sure those kids you mentioned had good social skills or good manners? I wonder how those kids behave around their peers. That's the true test. And you're right good behavior is taught in the home. But from what I've seen through the years, good behavior is NOT taught there and we(educators) must compensate.
I thought so. To the point of being impressed. They have level headed parents and are very much their offspring. Good folk. I don't particularly buy your peer test.
Well then how are social skills measured? By how we interact with people decades older/younger than us? Silly.
If I'm great with babies, does that mean I am able to socialize with my peers? I don't think so.
Crappy, sorry but it's a compulsion. And Klink seems to like it. Look at it this way, I'm not only teaching people about our faltering educational system, I'm teaching folks the beautiful language of Italian.
"Un piatto amaro ha pochi mangiatori." lol No comment.
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former Jamaica H.S. graduates:
Michael Savage,wor/am radio talk show host.
Alan Seiden,All-American basketball star,his team won the n.y.c. championship in 1954. my teammate at St.John"s U.(REDMEN),under Joe Lapchick. won the N.I.T. & Holiday Festival championship.( R.I.P.)
i read that the school will be converted into smaller schools in the same building ? if the so-called pupils will not study ,no one can force success into their life.
MAKE NO MISTAKE!!
What Klein & Bloomberg do has nothing to do with the kids. They don't care about them. All they care about is data(as you saw in the video).
The real reasons to shut down schools is much more sinister. Shutting down schools eliminates hundreds of veteran teachers, make the data(scores and graduation rates) in the smaller schools more easily manipulated and pave the way for charter schools.
I will be shocked if the PEP votes in JHS's favor.
i read that the school will be converted into smaller schools in the same building ?
---------------------------------------
Thats what happens in many cases. The new trend in thinking is "big schools are bad"
Yes, but they will cost more now. Instead of one set of administrators, you now need multiple sets. More paperwork to be done, more hassle, more headache, and solves ZERO problems.
They are doing this just to make it look like arent sitting around not doing anything. They dont have any real ideas.
"Going to school" is so anachronistic. You can learn the same things on the internet. Eventually school buildings will be fazed out.
This site, for example, is soooo educational.
Why even "go" to school?
George:
"Going" to school affords a student interaction with PEOPLE as opposed to learning all you can learn on a computer, which is certainly possible, but totally anti-social.
There's already too many computer geeks(with no personality I might add) in this world.
Children need to interact with others so they can productively work with others when they join the workforce.
Capisci quello che sto dicendo?
Plus it's a free baby sitting service.
No, la mia cara bambina.
L'enfers, c'est les autres. - Jean Paul Sartre
BTW I'm socializing with you, Crapper, et alia on this computer contraption right now, no? I need face time?
Mais Georges, par la participation, vous etes maintenant dans les profondeurs de l'enfer.
primadonna said...
"Going" to school affords a student interaction with PEOPLE as opposed to learning all you can learn on a computer, which is certainly possible, but totally anti-social."
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I once had this view about children and social skills development, but using a home schooled example. I changed my mind after working with a 12 year old home schooled child. We worked with his father and 4 other adults preparing for an important showcase (music) for the president of Sony Records. It was a demanding and stressful work environment that dealt with the sensitivities of "artists". From a social point of view, a scenario such as this requires a high order understanding in human interaction for it to work. The kid held better composure than most of the adults! And he was the easiest person in the group to work with, including his father. A testament to his well rounded social skills. His older brother was also homed schooled and showed similar social skills. Those experiences forever changed my mind about social development and home schooling.
Developing social skills shouldn't rest on the school system. It rests on parenting.
PS Non mi chiamo Cannoli perché sono dolce. Ma sono. A volte. ;@)
Klink:
Are you sure those kids you mentioned had good social skills or good manners? I wonder how those kids behave around their peers. That's the true test.
And you're right good behavior is taught in the home.
But from what I've seen through the years, good behavior is NOT taught there and we(educators) must compensate.
PS Io sono piuttosto amara. Piu delle volte. ;)
primadonna,
I thought so. To the point of being impressed. They have level headed parents and are very much their offspring. Good folk. I don't particularly buy your peer test.
Un piatto amaro ha pochi mangiatori.
Parla English. Grazie.
You don't buy my peer test?!?!?
Well then how are social skills measured? By how we interact with people decades older/younger than us? Silly.
If I'm great with babies, does that mean I am able to socialize with my peers? I don't think so.
Crappy, sorry but it's a compulsion. And Klink seems to like it. Look at it this way, I'm not only teaching people about our faltering educational system, I'm teaching folks the beautiful language of Italian.
"Un piatto amaro ha pochi mangiatori."
lol
No comment.
George, I love it when you talk dirty.
Queens Crapper said...
"Parla English. Grazie."
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Crahahaha!
primadonna,
- "Well then how are social skills measured?"
Why should you care? You're a teacher, not a sociologist or a psychologist. Unless you're not telling us something.
I was a psychology major undergrad.
Considered pursuing a master's degree in School Psychology and changed my mind at the last minute.
Lucky me.
I'm talking dirty. Moi? How about Our Miss Brooks?
Our Miss Brooks?
Exactly how OLD are you?
My budding flower, do not fret if you ever should meet me if I approach you with my physical propinquity.
primadonna,
Consider yourself lucky. The Kool-Aid in the social sciences is far sweeter than in academia.
Tup, I made a funny. I used the word science in social sciences.
George:
NO not fret, heave maybe, but never fret.
Klink:
Are you ridiculing the social sciences?
Not cool.
Oh, so you're an emetophiliac. How gross.
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